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Invite North Dakota State for football-only membership?
http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthre...to-the-FBS

Their fans are starting to take notice of all of the success of their former FCS peers in FBS. Reminds me of Georgia Southern and App State fans around 10 years ago TBH. I think we should look at adding them for football.

Here's the benefits:

1. Football-only membership means sending only football teams to Fargo and the Summit where all of NDSU's other teams play won't kick them out if they go FBS.

2. They probably already have an FBS-ready budget or aren't far from it. Their football already has to travel fairly big distances to other MVFC teams.

3. Fan base size is big enough they'd add value to the TV contract.

4. They've sustained success over a long period of time going back to 8 titles in DII. I don't know how they heck they do it in North Dakota but no one can call them a flash in the pan. With them we'd become a whale of a football league that could finish ahead of the MWC in the rankings at least as often as we don't.
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Aren’t we only a few year removed from flying to that part of the country for a game?
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RE: Invite North Dakota State for football-only membership?
I like NDSU, but no. If you want a former "peer", go get Marshall. They have a history playing some big games back in the 1AA days against App State, Georgia Southern, and Troy.

10 is a good number for the Sun Belt, and North Dakota is way too far. That's one reason Idaho and New Mexico State were shown the door.
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Not that it really matters but we’ve never played NDSU.
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(12-08-2020 03:23 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthre...to-the-FBS

Their fans are starting to take notice of all of the success of their former FCS peers in FBS. Reminds me of Georgia Southern and App State fans around 10 years ago TBH. I think we should look at adding them for football.

Here's the benefits:

1. Football-only membership means sending only football teams to Fargo and the Summit where all of NDSU's other teams play won't kick them out if they go FBS.

2. They probably already have an FBS-ready budget or aren't far from it. Their football already has to travel fairly big distances to other MVFC teams.

3. Fan base size is big enough they'd add value to the TV contract.

4. They've sustained success over a long period of time going back to 8 titles in DII. I don't know how they heck they do it in North Dakota but no one can call them a flash in the pan. With them we'd become a whale of a football league that could finish ahead of the MWC in the rankings at least as often as we don't.

None of those benifits are good enough to add a team from Canada-lite (North Dakota) to a Southern based football league. Hell they are probably even too far for the MWC or MAC to consider them much less a league that stretches from Texas to North Carolina.

I like 12 for football but the only Football Only members I'd consider would be still somewhat in our footprint...Liberty, JMU or some CUSA school that wants to go to a basketball conference and needs somewhere to park football like some ODU fans sometime threaten on the Coosa board.
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RE: Invite North Dakota State for football-only membership?
Move them to MS, TN, AR or TX and they’d be a great add, but not in ND. Sorry, but no thanks.
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(12-08-2020 04:26 PM)111App Wrote:  Not that it really matters but we’ve never played NDSU.

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This is true...crApp was not good enough the last few years in FCS to face NDSU in the playoffs.

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RE: Invite North Dakota State for football-only membership?
You intentionally want to invite another L onto our schedule every year? Nah, I'm good.
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(12-08-2020 04:41 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  You intentionally want to invite another L onto our schedule every year? Nah, I'm good.

Get good.
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RE: Invite North Dakota State for football-only membership?
Instead of NDSU, get Boise State. Although hypocritical after what happened with Idaho and NMSU, I think the additional strength would justify the action.

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We really need Southern Miss to connect the Sun BELT.
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(12-08-2020 05:05 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  We really need Southern Miss to connect the Sun BELT.

The only one I would want is Marshall. No one else in CUSA is consistently good.
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(12-08-2020 05:05 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  We really need Southern Miss to connect the Sun BELT.

There's a gap in Tennessee too.

We weren't around when MTSU was a member. Honest question...how did the current membership (i.e. Troy, Arkansas State, Louisiana, etc.) take the Blue Raiders leaving earlier this decade? Was it "good riddance?" Did you guys hate to see them go?

We've played them in baseball & basketball within the last year or so.
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(12-08-2020 05:07 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 05:05 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  We really need Southern Miss to connect the Sun BELT.

The only one I would want is Marshall. No one else in CUSA is consistently good.

Marshall has had bad years as well, don’t act like they are a consistent 10 game winner, every year. USM has had there good years as well, they are just down right now. The only difference I see historically from Marshall to USM is location and a tragic night 50 years ago.
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(12-08-2020 05:30 PM)chantzilla Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 05:05 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  We really need Southern Miss to connect the Sun BELT.

There's a gap in Tennessee too.

We weren't around when MTSU was a member. Honest question...how did the current membership (i.e. Troy, Arkansas State, Louisiana, etc.) take the Blue Raiders leaving earlier this decade? Was it "good riddance?" Did you guys hate to see them go?

We've played them in baseball & basketball within the last year or so.

Hated to see them go when they left. I personally felt like the move was lateral at best due to the teams that had left CUSA, even at that point, and it has proven to be even worse for them. All their fans thumped their chest, talked down about the SBC as they went out the door, chanting CUSA CUSA CUSA as if they had been called up to the majors. My feelings personally are let them rot in CUSA, they made that bed, let them lie in it.
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(12-08-2020 04:41 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  You intentionally want to invite another L onto our schedule every year? Nah, I'm good.

Hearing a GS fan say this is shameful smh
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The SBC's football brand has been built on its own, not by poaching from other conferences. (I consider FCS move-ups a different story.) Coastal, Louisiana, App, and Troy have been recognized on their own merits, not by achieving FBS success elsewhere and then bringing their talents to the Belt. If we're going to add for reputation's sake, I think I'd rather invite teams with hoops in mind.
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(12-08-2020 05:39 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 05:07 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 05:05 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  We really need Southern Miss to connect the Sun BELT.

The only one I would want is Marshall. No one else in CUSA is consistently good.

Marshall has had bad years as well, don’t act like they are a consistent 10 game winner, every year. USM has had there good years as well, they are just down right now. The only difference I see historically from Marshall to USM is location and a tragic night 50 years ago.

Over the last eight years, Marshall's records have been very good. Much better than Southern Miss, so I don't see how this statement makes any sense.
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RE: Invite North Dakota State for football-only membership?
NDSU?, while we are at it, let’s invite the University of Alaska, Anchorage and Prokick Australia.

I wouldn’t mind adding JMU though.
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(12-08-2020 06:09 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 05:39 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 05:07 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 05:05 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  We really need Southern Miss to connect the Sun BELT.

The only one I would want is Marshall. No one else in CUSA is consistently good.

Marshall has had bad years as well, don’t act like they are a consistent 10 game winner, every year. USM has had there good years as well, they are just down right now. The only difference I see historically from Marshall to USM is location and a tragic night 50 years ago.

Over the last eight years, Marshall's records have been very good. Much better than Southern Miss, so I don't see how this statement makes any sense.

You said Marshall was the only consistently good team in CUSA, in the last 5 years, Marshall has one more win then USM. I was just stating that Marshall isn’t any more consistent then any other team. USM had a terrible hire in 2012 and took them 4 years to get over it. Before the Fedora hire, USM had 18 winning seasons in a row. 3 bad years, and the last 5 have been good. So please tell me how you don’t understand what I’m saying that Marshall isn’t more consistent then USM.
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