(12-09-2020 06:05 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 06:02 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 05:39 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 05:36 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  It's going to be very interesting to see how this all plays out. Most likely it goes no where. But let's say that the Supreme Court invalidates the votes in these states and turns it over to there legislatures. Does a liberal state (NY, California?) then turn around and sue a number of more conservative states for the same reason?

I recall that the absentee ballot in North Carolina was changed due to a judicial decision, I know that there are different voting procedures in different Counties here in Florida, so I have a difficult time believing that this argument would only apply to GA, MI, PA, and WI. It seems that we could have a legal civil war on our hands.

Then NY sues VA for their gun laws, and CA sues TX for climate change.

What "climate change" law is TX breaking?

WHat gun law is VA breaking?

NYC has gone after dealers and states in the past over straw purchases, failing to enforce the law. They take the stance that other states lax firearms laws endanger their population.

So there's precedent for TX to do this. Thanks.

(12-09-2020 07:07 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 07:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 06:52 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  Unless i'm mistaken, this case has no dependency on election fraud, vote switching or ballot box stuffing. Its based solely on the US Constitution.

Already posted

Article III (3), Section II (2)
The Constitution of the United States

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;— between a State and Citizens of another State,—between Citizens of different States,—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.


Bold by me.

This is real and its happening.

I believe this legal action between the States also involves:

"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations" (Article I, section 4)."

Basically. This is the United States....some of you States cant just cheat and make shite up and harm us.

Perfect argument. Fair point.

(12-09-2020 07:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 06:52 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  Unless i'm mistaken, this case has no dependency on election fraud, vote switching or ballot box stuffing. Its based solely on the US Constitution.

Already posted

Article III (3), Section II (2)
The Constitution of the United States

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;— between a State and Citizens of another State,—between Citizens of different States,—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.


Bold by me.

This is real and its happening.

Agree with that as well, it seems to be related to the legality based on the Constitution alone - not related to fraud or even how close the margin is in any of these state. Which is why I brought up the point that this could result in a type of legal civil war between the states since these over-reaches are clearly not isolated to 4 states alone.

It could result in large scale lawsuits between many states. I already brought up North Carolina and Florida, but if the argument is that these States violated the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause and that these decisions needed to be made by states legislatures (not through the courts or executive actions) - how does the decision of the Governor of Texas, upheld by the Court (not the act of the legislature) to limit ballot drop boxes hold up in this context?

(12-09-2020 07:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 06:52 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  Unless i'm mistaken, this case has no dependency on election fraud, vote switching or ballot box stuffing. Its based solely on the US Constitution.

Already posted

Article III (3), Section II (2)
The Constitution of the United States

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;— between a State and Citizens of another State,—between Citizens of different States,—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.


Bold by me.

This is real and its happening.

(12-09-2020 05:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

Arizona is IN

https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/09/break...ssion=true


Its happening.

(12-09-2020 07:23 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 05:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

Arizona is IN

https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/09/break...ssion=true


Its happening.

How many Red States are left to join in for the making of History?

(12-09-2020 07:27 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 07:23 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 05:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

Arizona is IN

https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/09/break...ssion=true


Its happening.

How many Red States are left to join in for the making of History?

I think KY signed on. That map may not be up to date.
OH and IN have not. Not sure if Dewine has the cahonies to do it.

(12-09-2020 05:30 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 05:04 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 02:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 01:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 01:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  therefore, ewe offer zero proof = 0...

yet, ewe offer nothing to invalidate...

the numbers/timeline/forensics relative to historical #s/%s vs. 2020 IN THE POTUS ELECTION IS BY ITSELF A STATISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY IN A HANDFUL OF COUNTIES....WTF ELSE IS RELEVANT, DIPSHITE...

EWE'RE A TROLL + STATISTICALLY BRAINDEAD

if ya choose to take down the fairness clause, I can fix that down the road at my choosing....

#suckThatTeat

You have no relevant argument to present. I don't have to offer proof to dispute the drivel you are typing.

Someone posted that the statistical analysis was valid and swayed their thinking, I asked to see it.

If you think you have a valid statistical analysis that supports fraud post it or STFU.

I gave ewe (as others have in detail in tooooooo many threads) a synopsis above...playing coy via ignorance is never valid rreasoning to dispute...that's all ewe and skewering dipshites have in the tank...we knew such long ago....all the faggoos accomplished was to cheat better than anticipated....that was a misstep...

I know ewer game....see sig line 4...

This is what your post sounds like :



Sober up or take some english as a second language classes.

From what I can gather from your rambling jibberish you are still bitching and have presented no valid argument. Just like your man crush Trump.

stink is the supplier of the bad batch shrooms the trump supporters are on. That's why they see a victory that never was.

lmao...

#penisEnvy

@psilocybin

OReagan P.O. BOX

POTUS asks Cruz to argue Texas case if it is heard by SCOTUS.

Sounds good to me.

Public opinion polls show that more and more folks are realizing that something smells bad about this election. The % is rising, despite the MSM ridicule and denial and refusal to cover it. Some of the facts are getting out despite the media blackout.

(12-09-2020 08:14 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Public opinion polls show that more and more folks are realizing that something smells bad about this election. The % is rising, despite the MSM ridicule and denial and refusal to cover it. Some of the facts are getting out despite the media blackout.

Yeah. Democrats cheated. Lol. They'll probably get away with it because idiots today believe anything else will destroy the country while the exact opposite is true.

Beijing Biden* is the perfect Manchurian candidate. Four years of hell coming for his idiot supporters.

Meanwhile I'll just
.

Here is your status prog filth

So if the SCOTUS rules for Texas, what is the remedy?

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(12-09-2020 11:11 PM)fsquid Wrote:  So if the SCOTUS rules for Texas, what is the remedy?

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Those four states vote again. Maybe all of us vote again.

(12-09-2020 07:37 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 05:30 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 05:04 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 02:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 01:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  You have no relevant argument to present. I don't have to offer proof to dispute the drivel you are typing.

Someone posted that the statistical analysis was valid and swayed their thinking, I asked to see it.

If you think you have a valid statistical analysis that supports fraud post it or STFU.

I gave ewe (as others have in detail in tooooooo many threads) a synopsis above...playing coy via ignorance is never valid rreasoning to dispute...that's all ewe and skewering dipshites have in the tank...we knew such long ago....all the faggoos accomplished was to cheat better than anticipated....that was a misstep...

I know ewer game....see sig line 4...

This is what your post sounds like :



Sober up or take some english as a second language classes.

From what I can gather from your rambling jibberish you are still bitching and have presented no valid argument. Just like your man crush Trump.

stink is the supplier of the bad batch shrooms the trump supporters are on. That's why they see a victory that never was.

lmao...

#penisEnvy

@psilocybin

OReagan P.O. BOX

Take no offense brother. They find it embarrassingly hard to understand ANYTHING....

(12-09-2020 08:14 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Public opinion polls show that more and more folks are realizing that something smells bad about this election. The % is rising, despite the MSM ridicule and denial and refusal to cover it. Some of the facts are getting out despite the media blackout.

Not to mention all of this China crap all of the sudden being revealed as if it all was discovered just today. Even those that never pay attention are asking themselves WTF.....

Biden*. How fitting is that asterisk? Never will he be my president. Never.

(12-09-2020 11:11 PM)fsquid Wrote:  So if the SCOTUS rules for Texas, what is the remedy?

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It will go to the legislative branch of each state and they will decide. They can vote again or they can pick the electors or really anything they want I believe. I believe four have republican majorities but who knows if they have the balls to do the right thing. That’s really the question here. Will anyone do anything about it.

(12-09-2020 11:48 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 11:11 PM)fsquid Wrote:  So if the SCOTUS rules for Texas, what is the remedy?

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It will go to the legislative branch of each state and they will decide. They can vote again or they can pick the electors or really anything they want I believe. I believe four have republican majorities but who knows if they have the balls to do the right thing. That’s really the question here. Will anyone do anything about it.

The SCOTUS, by definition, has the power to direct each state legislature to do the same thing regarding the precise and specific actions needed to remedy a particular injustice that affects every state's citizens.

I.e., a SCOTUS ruling normally will prescribe the exact remedy necessary--without any allowance for variance on a state-by-state basis--precisely so that it not be left up to state legislators to figure out what to do, and get it wrong as a result.

For a precedent, look at Roe v Wade. Even though it was bad case law, the remedy wasn't left up to the states to decide.

This is precisely why this suit was filed-- so that it would not be left up to individual states to decide how to deal with a constitutional injustice IF the SCOTUS decides one exists.

(12-09-2020 07:12 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 07:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-09-2020 06:52 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  Unless i'm mistaken, this case has no dependency on election fraud, vote switching or ballot box stuffing. Its based solely on the US Constitution.

Already posted

Article III (3), Section II (2)
The Constitution of the United States

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;— between a State and Citizens of another State,—between Citizens of different States,—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.


Bold by me.

This is real and its happening.

Agree with that as well, it seems to be related to the legality based on the Constitution alone - not related to fraud or even how close the margin is in any of these state. Which is why I brought up the point that this could result in a type of legal civil war between the states since these over-reaches are clearly not isolated to 4 states alone.

It could result in large scale lawsuits between many states. I already brought up North Carolina and Florida, but if the argument is that these States violated the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause and that these decisions needed to be made by states legislatures (not through the courts or executive actions) - how does the decision of the Governor of Texas, upheld by the Court (not the act of the legislature) to limit ballot drop boxes hold up in this context?

Texas uses Dominion software. Why didn't Biden win there which is the question? Did Trump cheated in Texas and the other Red states with widespread fraud? Maybe the blue states sold file fraud cases to have all the votes be overturned in Texas and the 17 other states as being fraud? This is how stupid Trump and his Minimes taking these things too far.