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RE: Gameday at Coastal Carolina
Top 25 is diluted by the fact that many teams have been playing games with like 20 dudes down. So one of the variables this year for the top 25 was how many folks got caught up in contact tracing. Some P5s have played 4 games so we'll never know how good/bad they are. But I don't care, CCU has had a good year and deserves to be in the top 25 this year.

Yes, it could lead to a huge surge in recruiting for CCU, a lot of 18 year olds want to go hang out in MB (I personally went once and happy to never return). NIU went to the Orange Bowl and played FSU in 2013, they have MIA since. Don't know that it's a slam dunk that this ensures future success, particularly with P5s poaching talented G5 players.

I think you all are misinterpreting what I am saying. I find it discouraging that CCU has had the awesome year they've had but it will likely result in a trip to the Cure Bowl unless Cincy loses. I would love to see them face a good P5 in a NY6, think you can make an argument that they even deserve it considering how many teams have a small sample size this year.

NCAA has no real interest in G5 football and this is more proof to that. Ill be a JMU fan whether we are playing in the Cure Bowl against FIU after a 10-2 season in a G5 conference or in the National Semifinals in FCS. I'll like playing P5s at home when we go FBS but will certainly miss playing meaningful postseason games. I see it as the only 'pro' in the pro column of FCS, but it feels like an important one to me.
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RE: Gameday at Coastal Carolina
(12-06-2020 02:52 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  
(12-06-2020 10:45 AM)Purple Wrote:  
(12-06-2020 09:55 AM)olddawg Wrote:  Saw this today:
Coastal's offensive line averages 6-1 and 288 pounds. Short and light, even by FCS standards. Heck, Western Carolina yesterday in their game against UNC was listed at an average of 6'4" 298 lbs. Pretty impressive what Coastal's line has been able to do.

Chanticleer O-Line
LT Antwine Loper: 6-3, 275 pounds
LG: Trey Carter: 6-1, 300 pounds
C: Sam Thompson 5-9, 290 pounds
RG: Willie Lampkin 6-1, 295 pounds
LT: Steven Bedosky 6-2 280 pounds

I heard a pundit say yesterday that the difference in the game was going to be Coastal's teeny O-line against the massive, powerful, and fast Mormon D-line. He predicted BYU would win in a blowout. He was seen this morning eating a crow on the side of the road.

Line play is all about leverage and Chadwell specifically brought it up in post game when asked. I think they mentioned that 4 of 5 starters were HS wrestlers which makes a ton of sense and wrestling is all about positioning and leverage.

I was thinking the same thing and was reminded of our 2004 O-line, short, light (by D1 standards) and powerful. I don't know if Magerko and Steinfeld were 5'10, maybe 280, probably 270. But, it was great fun watching them push the Griz down the field at the Natty in Chatty.

If I recall correctly, Magerko was a converted fullback.
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(12-06-2020 06:55 PM)CarRamrod Wrote:  NCAA has no real interest in G5 football and this is more proof to that. Ill be a JMU fan whether we are playing in the Cure Bowl against FIU after a 10-2 season in a G5 conference or in the National Semifinals in FCS. I'll like playing P5s at home when we go FBS but will certainly miss playing meaningful postseason games. I see it as the only 'pro' in the pro column of FCS, but it feels like an important one to me.

The NCAA has supreme interest in G5 football. The College Football Playoff does not. 2 different things.

We should look at how things are going to be, not how they are.
The Playoff will not remain at 4 teams. That is a lock. There is too much TV money being left on the table with only 4 teams involved and we know the P5 operate out of greed not out of a concern for equitable competition. The new contract is in 2025.
If the P5 desires to split from the NCAA, then the NCAA should let them but only if all sports in P5 split from the NCAA, not just football. Goodbye March Madness for those schools and their lion’s share of the $ Billion TV contract.
Let’s say they go anyway (which they will regret if they do because 50% of the P5 programs will be losers every year without the ability to get 3 creampuff OOC wins to disguise their 3-6 conference record).
Once the P5 is gone, The NCAA could quickly replicate the football playoffs they have in all other divisions. The G5 plus a handful of FCS programs willing And able to move up would give you about 70 teams which sets up perfectly for a 16 team playoff.

Let’s say the P5 doesn’t split because they don’t want to lose the March Madness money. We will still see a larger playoff field in the next TV contract, but the College Football Playoff will restrict access to control the money. In this case, we will see an 8 team playoff before a 16 team playoff as TV contracts are signed for multiple years. So it may be another 10 years to see the ultimate 16 team playoff format.
An 8 team format still keeps most, if not all, of the money with the P5 but chances for a G5 to crash the party would be double what they are now. There will be more opportunity to play meaningful postseason games for an undefeated G5 team.
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It’s funny seeing some of you clinging to your misguided beliefs. I love JMU with all my heart but I’d trade places with Coastal Carolina all day everyday. I’d say let’s talk about it in person this spring but let’s be honest, we aren’t playing this spring in FCS. We are not a better football program than Coastal Carolina. Some of you won’t admit it, but that’s a factual statement.
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(12-06-2020 09:55 AM)olddawg Wrote:  Saw this today:
Coastal's offensive line averages 6-1 and 288 pounds. Short and light, even by FCS standards. Heck, Western Carolina yesterday in their game against UNC was listed at an average of 6'4" 298 lbs. Pretty impressive what Coastal's line has been able to do.

Chanticleer O-Line
LT Antwine Loper: 6-3, 275 pounds
LG: Trey Carter: 6-1, 300 pounds
C: Sam Thompson 5-9, 290 pounds
RG: Willie Lampkin 6-1, 295 pounds
LT: Steven Bedosky 6-2 280 pounds
That looks like an OL for an option team. Does CCU run the option?
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CCU-BYU was the game I was most excited to see Saturday, and the only one I watch in it's entirety.

Great game. Left me very envious wondering why not us? Better stadium & better support.

I'd easily trade a NC for where CCU is right now. Harrisonburg and JMU students would be more electric than any time in history.
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JMU could/should be hosting top 20 teams like BYU is Harrisonburg
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(12-07-2020 09:42 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  JMU could/should be hosting top 20 teams like BYU is Harrisonburg

It's one of those things that a fraction don't exhibit excitement on here (I think primarily as support for the administration's decisions), but when it finally happens EVERYONE will be very happy and excited.

Now BDK might be a different situation. I'm not sure his reluctance......03-idea
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Some people just really value the path to earning a championship (FCS playoff postseason). I disagree with them, but that’s a valid thought, at least logically.
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I'm happy for Coastal (and kind of a fan now!) I just wished it were JMU.
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Saw where Chadwell the Coastal coach makes about $400k. I’m sure he’ll be in line for a big raise. Nice to see that he appears to be staying put. He’s from Tennessee so I guess Vandy could be in play but I think he would have taken the South Carolina job if he planned to leave for the Sec. We’ll see and I know the upside at Coastal is greater than at JMU but it’s nice to see a guy walk the walk after he talked the talk.
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(12-07-2020 12:02 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Saw where Chadwell the Coastal coach makes about $400k. I’m sure he’ll be in line for a big raise. Nice to see that he appears to be staying put. He’s from Tennessee so I guess Vandy could be in play but I think he would have taken the South Carolina job if he planned to leave for the Sec. We’ll see and I know the upside at Coastal is greater than at JMU but it’s nice to see a guy walk the walk after he talked the talk.

He was previously at Charleston Southern. Guessing he likes the SC lowcountry.
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(12-05-2020 06:11 PM)Middle-aged-Duke Wrote:  Go Chants!! This could be Jmu in the next 10 years!

I bet if you searched the old Zone message board, you'd find this same post but with Boise substituted for CCU. And yet here we are ten years later...
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Wasnt chadwell on our coaching vacancy list at one time?
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(12-07-2020 12:48 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Wasnt chadwell on our coaching vacancy list at one time?

It’s possible. Also Shane Beamer was just announced as new South Carolina head coach. I think he was rumored for JMU at one point no?
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(12-07-2020 10:06 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(12-07-2020 09:42 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  JMU could/should be hosting top 20 teams like BYU is Harrisonburg

It's one of those things that a fraction don't exhibit excitement on here (I think primarily as support for the administration's decisions), but when it finally happens EVERYONE will be very happy and excited.

Now BDK might be a different situation. I'm not sure his reluctance......03-idea

(12-07-2020 10:31 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Some people just really value the path to earning a championship (FCS playoff postseason). I disagree with them, but that’s a valid thought, at least logically.

I'm very happy with where we are. Has nothing to do with the Administration. If they split the P6 and G5 and create a playoff system for G5 I am all in. Otherwise, I much prefer playing for National Championships regularly and hosting Game Days. We get more National exposure by playing in ESPN playoff games on a Friday night and for the Natty on a Saturday morning than catching lightning in a bottle once every lifetime and have a season like CCU this year. Staying relevant will be very difficult for the them. They haven't done much since their World Series title in baseball. We are relevant every year.
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(12-07-2020 02:48 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  
(12-07-2020 10:06 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(12-07-2020 09:42 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  JMU could/should be hosting top 20 teams like BYU is Harrisonburg

It's one of those things that a fraction don't exhibit excitement on here (I think primarily as support for the administration's decisions), but when it finally happens EVERYONE will be very happy and excited.

Now BDK might be a different situation. I'm not sure his reluctance......03-idea

(12-07-2020 10:31 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Some people just really value the path to earning a championship (FCS playoff postseason). I disagree with them, but that’s a valid thought, at least logically.

I'm very happy with where we are. Has nothing to do with the Administration. If they split the P6 and G5 and create a playoff system for G5 I am all in. Otherwise, I much prefer playing for National Championships regularly and hosting Game Days. We get more National exposure by playing in ESPN playoff games on a Friday night and for the Natty on a Saturday morning than catching lightning in a bottle once every lifetime and have a season like CCU this year. Staying relevant will be very difficult for the them. They haven't done much since their World Series title in baseball. We are relevant every year.

Well, we're better than the majority of G5 programs in support & facilities. We're just beating up on schools with lessor facilities, resources, & facilities. Like shooting a squirrel with a slug. 03-lmfao I've not hunted since I was around 15. 03-lmfao

No doubt we are more qualified to move up than anyone in FCS including NDSU, and we're more qualified than about 75 current FBS schools too.
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Say what you want about Coastal but recruits are taking notice. Wouldn’t be surprised to see us lose a few to them in the next few years.
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(12-07-2020 04:05 PM)Anders Wrote:  

Say what you want about Coastal but recruits are taking notice. Wouldn’t be surprised to see us lose a few to them in the next few years.

You don't think that is already happening?

Not sure we are going after the same recruits as CCU, but I would not like our odds on most battles with CCU, YSU, or even sadly ODU & Liberty.

That Gunter kid for them was a major punk/jerk but be certainly has NFL potential.
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(12-07-2020 04:41 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(12-07-2020 04:05 PM)Anders Wrote:  

Say what you want about Coastal but recruits are taking notice. Wouldn’t be surprised to see us lose a few to them in the next few years.

You don't think that is already happening?

Not sure we are going after the same recruits as CCU, but I would not like our odds on most battles with CCU, YSU, or even sadly ODU & Liberty.

That Gunter kid for them was a major punk/jerk but be certainly has NFL potential.

Madison men don’t sport Mullets. Coastal’s players are very Coastal. They’re ballers but I’m not sure if kids that come to JMU are kids that go to Coastal.
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