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RE: WAC Transfers
(03-29-2021 02:50 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 02:29 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
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(03-29-2021 01:40 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 12:41 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Per Verbal Commits, Abilene Christian's Clay Gayman (6'6, 210, JR) has entered the transfer portal.

Any sense of why some of these guys are leaving? I thought guys usually transferred because they didn't get playing time or are stuck in hopeless programs.

Lots of the transfers from the Southland schools are neither. I don't get it.

I know Lamar's coach is leaving, but besides that...

Mario mentioned that the blanket additional year of eligibility has put the transfer market in a tizzy. Schools have the same scholarship maximum, but extra players, which I think has led to some jockeying.

That's backwards thinking. If you have a scholarship in hand at your present school, why would you put name out on the open market when you know there are a finite number of scholarships available and many more players jockeying for them?

Because schools may not be prepared to honor a scholarship for an additional year at the expense of offering a promising recruit, which leads to a glut of experience players on the transfer market, which leads to schools considering signing an experienced pick over their current options, which leads to their current options getting worried about playing time and looking elsewhere. And so the cycle continues. I may be wrong, I’m no expert on the transfer market’s dynamics.

The current school gets the usual 13 scholarship and "unlimited" scholarships over that to account for current seniors. Of course, that supposes the school wants the player back and the school can afford to exceed 13 scholarships. If a current senior transfers, then they eat up one of the existing 13 scholarships at the new school.
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RE: WAC Transfers
NMSU's RS Freshman Rashaun Agee (6'7, 210) has entered the transfer portal. He spent most of his Aggie career on the bench injured.
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RE: WAC Transfers
(03-29-2021 01:14 PM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 10:13 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Of note is where players are transferring... are they really getting into better situations? Barber is making a relatively lateral move to a fellow HBCU while Pryor and Monroe are "improving" which league they play ball in. Bennett is leaving after a coaching move, which is understandable and still landed at a Division I.

3/27/2021 - New Mexico State JUCO PG Nate Pryor (6-4, 175, 2★) is transfering to New Mexico State from Washington.
3/24/2021 - Chicago State JUCO PF Michael Barber (6-9, 225, 3★) committed to Alabama State.

3/29/2021 - Lamar JUCO SG Quinlan Bennett (6-3, 205, 2★) will be transferring to Western Illinois.
3/25/2021 - Sam Houston State 2020 PG Bryce Monroe (5-11, 170, 2★) will be transferring to San Diego.


Nate Pryor isn't transferring from NMSU, he is transferring to NMSU from Washington.

Frank. it definitely says that he is transferring from Washington to NMSU. I made it bold and a bright color for you 04-cheers04-cheers
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RE: WAC Transfers
(03-29-2021 11:19 PM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 01:14 PM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 10:13 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Of note is where players are transferring... are they really getting into better situations? Barber is making a relatively lateral move to a fellow HBCU while Pryor and Monroe are "improving" which league they play ball in. Bennett is leaving after a coaching move, which is understandable and still landed at a Division I.

3/27/2021 - New Mexico State JUCO PG Nate Pryor (6-4, 175, 2★) is transfering to New Mexico State from Washington.
3/24/2021 - Chicago State JUCO PF Michael Barber (6-9, 225, 3★) committed to Alabama State.

3/29/2021 - Lamar JUCO SG Quinlan Bennett (6-3, 205, 2★) will be transferring to Western Illinois.
3/25/2021 - Sam Houston State 2020 PG Bryce Monroe (5-11, 170, 2★) will be transferring to San Diego.


Nate Pryor isn't transferring from NMSU, he is transferring to NMSU from Washington.

Frank. it definitely says that he is transferring from Washington to NMSU. I made it bold and a bright color for you 04-cheers04-cheers

It doesn't appear that he was the confused party. He stated it correctly. 01-wingedeagle
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RE: WAC Transfers
(03-29-2021 11:19 PM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 01:14 PM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 10:13 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Of note is where players are transferring... are they really getting into better situations? Barber is making a relatively lateral move to a fellow HBCU while Pryor and Monroe are "improving" which league they play ball in. Bennett is leaving after a coaching move, which is understandable and still landed at a Division I.

3/27/2021 - New Mexico State JUCO PG Nate Pryor (6-4, 175, 2★) is transfering to New Mexico State from Washington.
3/24/2021 - Chicago State JUCO PF Michael Barber (6-9, 225, 3★) committed to Alabama State.

3/29/2021 - Lamar JUCO SG Quinlan Bennett (6-3, 205, 2★) will be transferring to Western Illinois.
3/25/2021 - Sam Houston State 2020 PG Bryce Monroe (5-11, 170, 2★) will be transferring to San Diego.


Nate Pryor isn't transferring from NMSU, he is transferring to NMSU from Washington.

Frank. it definitely says that he is transferring from Washington to NMSU. I made it bold and a bright color for you 04-cheers04-cheers

That should be talked about in the commitment thread. This thread is about WAC players leaving WAC schools for other schools.
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Whoops! Read that from Washington to NMSU wrong. Thanks for clarifying! :)
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Lamar's Anderson Kopp has transferred to UM Kansas City; formerly of the WAC and now back in the Summit. UMKC has cleaned house of it roster with 8 Roos players transferring out recently (Brandon McKissic being one of the most coveted transfers); And now Donlon is in the process of restocking his team.
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RE: WAC Transfers
The Southland Conference Player of the Year has entered the transfer portal on the WBB side of things. This means both the men's and women's SLC POTY from Sam Houston State are into the portal.

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Sam Houston State's DJ Kelley has enter the transfer portal.
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(03-30-2021 01:43 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Sam Houston State's DJ Kelley has enter the transfer portal.

He was a walk-on and the son of a former assistant coach at SHSU. Probably moving back "home" to Florida if I had to guess to play for a D2/NAIA type of program
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NMSU guard Kalen Williams has entered the transfer portal.

Also, Chicago State's Aaris-Monte Bonds is entering the transfer portal.
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Add Redshirt Freshman SF Marcus Watson to the list of players transferring from NSMU. 3rd player this week 04-jawdrop04-jawdrop
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(03-31-2021 07:13 PM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  Add Redshirt Freshman SF Marcus Watson to the list of players transferring from NSMU. 3rd player this week 04-jawdrop04-jawdrop

The other two Aggies transfers were not too concerning. This one (Watson) is a little frustrating for Aggie fans. However, Jans is a no nonsense coach. He will be tough on players who he thinks aren't playing Aggie ball. 4-star, 3-star or no star. I just wish Jans would play his younger players more in game action in order to develop and feel as part of the team's success.
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(03-31-2021 08:29 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(03-31-2021 07:13 PM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  Add Redshirt Freshman SF Marcus Watson to the list of players transferring from NSMU. 3rd player this week 04-jawdrop04-jawdrop

The other two Aggies transfers were not too concerning. This one (Watson) is a little frustrating for Aggie fans. However, Jans is a no nonsense coach. He will be tough on players who he thinks aren't playing Aggie ball. 4-star, 3-star or no star. I just wish Jans would play his younger players more in game action in order to develop and feel as part of the team's success.

Its a lot harder to work your way into the rotation starting mid year, perhaps especially this year. I'd rather have him than Pryor, but oh well...
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(03-31-2021 10:01 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(03-31-2021 08:29 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(03-31-2021 07:13 PM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  Add Redshirt Freshman SF Marcus Watson to the list of players transferring from NSMU. 3rd player this week 04-jawdrop04-jawdrop

The other two Aggies transfers were not too concerning. This one (Watson) is a little frustrating for Aggie fans. However, Jans is a no nonsense coach. He will be tough on players who he thinks aren't playing Aggie ball. 4-star, 3-star or no star. I just wish Jans would play his younger players more in game action in order to develop and feel as part of the team's success.

Its a lot harder to work your way into the rotation starting mid year, perhaps especially this year. I'd rather have him than Pryor, but oh well...

It's just a guess on my part, but I don't think Jans liked the team chemistry of his roster this season. So, i think he is move players regardless of talent to find a group of players who will work to Jans satisfaction. All I know, is (attitudes aside) some is going to get a very talented wing forward in Watson. Oh well.
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(03-31-2021 10:13 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(03-31-2021 10:01 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(03-31-2021 08:29 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(03-31-2021 07:13 PM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  Add Redshirt Freshman SF Marcus Watson to the list of players transferring from NSMU. 3rd player this week 04-jawdrop04-jawdrop

The other two Aggies transfers were not too concerning. This one (Watson) is a little frustrating for Aggie fans. However, Jans is a no nonsense coach. He will be tough on players who he thinks aren't playing Aggie ball. 4-star, 3-star or no star. I just wish Jans would play his younger players more in game action in order to develop and feel as part of the team's success.

Its a lot harder to work your way into the rotation starting mid year, perhaps especially this year. I'd rather have him than Pryor, but oh well...

It's just a guess on my part, but I don't think Jans liked the team chemistry of his roster this season. So, i think he is move players regardless of talent to find a group of players who will work to Jans satisfaction. All I know, is (attitudes aside) some is going to get a very talented wing forward in Watson. Oh well.

Perhaps I am wrong for doing so, but I don't maintain much benefit of the doubt on guys who "didn't work out," (or worse in Watson's case) at a higher level school and bounce again in short order from their next opportunity. Talent be damned, there are some guys who may be better off at a place that is more desperate for players than Jans is.
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(03-31-2021 10:34 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(03-31-2021 10:13 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(03-31-2021 10:01 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(03-31-2021 08:29 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(03-31-2021 07:13 PM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  Add Redshirt Freshman SF Marcus Watson to the list of players transferring from NSMU. 3rd player this week 04-jawdrop04-jawdrop

The other two Aggies transfers were not too concerning. This one (Watson) is a little frustrating for Aggie fans. However, Jans is a no nonsense coach. He will be tough on players who he thinks aren't playing Aggie ball. 4-star, 3-star or no star. I just wish Jans would play his younger players more in game action in order to develop and feel as part of the team's success.

Its a lot harder to work your way into the rotation starting mid year, perhaps especially this year. I'd rather have him than Pryor, but oh well...

It's just a guess on my part, but I don't think Jans liked the team chemistry of his roster this season. So, i think he is move players regardless of talent to find a group of players who will work to Jans satisfaction. All I know, is (attitudes aside) some is going to get a very talented wing forward in Watson. Oh well.

Perhaps I am wrong for doing so, but I don't maintain much benefit of the doubt on guys who "didn't work out," (or worse in Watson's case) at a higher level school and bounce again in short order from their next opportunity. Talent be damned, there are some guys who may be better off at a place that is more desperate for players than Jans is.

Players are expected adjust to Jans. Jans won't adjust to the players. Given the choice, I think Jans would rather have a slightly less talented player who busts his butt every night than a very talented player who turns it on and off at will.
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Arizona State transfer Taeshon Cherry has committed to Grand Canyon, per his Twitter page.
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(04-01-2021 08:54 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  Arizona State transfer Taeshon Cherry has committed to Grand Canyon, per his Twitter page.

I didn't even realize we were an ideal spot for him. Was a little bit surprising in his recruiting last time around how late GCU stayed in the process with him in the initial recruiting, think we made his top 5. Averaged 5 and 3 in his time with ASU, but also only averaged 18 minutes a game over his 3 years. Could again be a case of under-utilization at ASU?
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(04-01-2021 09:43 AM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  
(04-01-2021 08:54 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  Arizona State transfer Taeshon Cherry has committed to Grand Canyon, per his Twitter page.

I didn't even realize we were an ideal spot for him. Was a little bit surprising in his recruiting last time around how late GCU stayed in the process with him in the initial recruiting, think we made his top 5. Averaged 5 and 3 in his time with ASU, but also only averaged 18 minutes a game over his 3 years. Could again be a case of under-utilization at ASU?

Struggled to get into the rotation in at times with guys like Zylan Cheatham Romello White Kimani Lawrence Jalen Graham Marcus Bagley around and Hurley shot leash on players and his affinity to play heavy guard lineups at times. GCU should be a nice spot for Cherry to reach the level of expectations everyone had for him entering in at ASU but time will tell.
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