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(06-15-2021 10:41 PM)namrag Wrote:  Dieterle is historic, but not as Dieterle and not as a vocal arts center.

The building is 111 years old, and only the last 26 years have been as Dieterle. The first 85 years were as Schmidlapp.

I was Army ROTC 88-93 and Schmidlapp Hall was our building. The entire building.

It originally served as the men’s basketball team’s second home court (their first court was in the basement of the original McMicken Hall- is that the same building as the current McMicken Hall?)

I did a lot of extra stuff for the cadre, and was one of the only scholarship cadets who lived on campus, so they gave me a key to the building. My friends and I spent many weekends and evenings playing basketball there.

I guess I was in the last Army ROTC class to be in Schmidlapp.

It was majorly renovated and reopened as Dieterle in 1995.

SGM Richard Blue told me that the natorium in the basement is what made it a designated historic building.

We used it for waterproof training (rock sharks, Hooah!).

I guess they filled it in with concrete as part of the renovation.

Basketball was played in the old McMicken building; the current one was built in 1950.

Dieterle was Louise Nippert’s maiden name; she was a UC alum and a classically trained opera singer. She have a boat load of money to not only restore the building, but also endowed a Voice Chair position.

(06-14-2021 11:26 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:15 AM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:12 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Live sports attendance has been trending downward for a while now. The experience of watching the game at home on a massive, HD screen with surround sound is pretty damn good. I think our stadium will be right-sized for the future. If P5 money was on the table and expanded capacity was a requirement, I feel like we could find a way to relocate the vocal arts center and fill in the end of the horseshoe -- likely expanding capacity to 45k or so. But I love the look of that building, as it gives our stadium a very unique vibe.

It is a zillion times easier to watch or stream the game than it is to go to the game. I missed going last year but didn’t miss it as much as I thought.

I mostly missed the band and pregame atmosphere but didn’t miss the 6 hour commitment and sitting out in the elements.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not a live event guy in general. I love sports and I love music, but I hate crowds. So I rarely go to concerts or live sporting events. I usually try to make it to a UC football game, UC basketball game, Columbus Crew soccer game, and Blue Jackets hockey game once every year or two. But that's about all I can stomach. If it's a concert, it has to be a band I really like, and I usually have to be coaxed by friends or my wife to even do that.

I feel the same way. I have passed up opportunities to go to the Big House and the Shoe, for that same reason. I'll go this year to the game at IU, but I have no desire to go to Notre Dame. For me, crowds at Nippert are good, but I could see at some point giving up my tickets. Plus I'm not one that like sitting in the rafters for any sporting event.

(06-16-2021 06:28 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:26 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not a live event guy in general. I love sports and I love music, but I hate crowds. So I rarely go to concerts or live sporting events. I usually try to make it to a UC football game, UC basketball game, Columbus Crew soccer game, and Blue Jackets hockey game once every year or two. But that's about all I can stomach. If it's a concert, it has to be a band I really like, and I usually have to be coaxed by friends or my wife to even do that.

I feel the same way. I have passed up opportunities to go to the Big House and the Shoe, for that same reason. I'll go this year to the game at IU, but I have no desire to go to Notre Dame. For me, crowds at Nippert are good, but I could see at some point giving up my tickets. Plus I'm not one that like sitting in the rafters for any sporting event.

I'm not as far to this extreme as you are but I definitely see where you're going. The at home experience has improved so much with technology that it's really closed the gap with the in person experience. For me I have zero desire to go to a game as a casual fan but the energy in stadium when it's a team that I have a rooting interest still draws me in. If it's not UC, Reds, or FCC I'm out on battling stadium crowds.

(06-16-2021 08:01 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 06:28 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:26 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not a live event guy in general. I love sports and I love music, but I hate crowds. So I rarely go to concerts or live sporting events. I usually try to make it to a UC football game, UC basketball game, Columbus Crew soccer game, and Blue Jackets hockey game once every year or two. But that's about all I can stomach. If it's a concert, it has to be a band I really like, and I usually have to be coaxed by friends or my wife to even do that.

I feel the same way. I have passed up opportunities to go to the Big House and the Shoe, for that same reason. I'll go this year to the game at IU, but I have no desire to go to Notre Dame. For me, crowds at Nippert are good, but I could see at some point giving up my tickets. Plus I'm not one that like sitting in the rafters for any sporting event.

I'm not as far to this extreme as you are but I definitely see where you're going. The at home experience has improved so much with technology that it's really closed the gap with the in person experience. For me I have zero desire to go to a game as a casual fan but the energy in stadium when it's a team that I have a rooting interest still draws me in. If it's not UC, Reds, or FCC I'm out on battling stadium crowds.

Yep...my last non-Nippert college football experience was such a horrible experience that I'll likely never see another CFB game in person outside of Nippert or UC's CFP/NY6 games moving forward.

(06-16-2021 08:01 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 06:28 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:26 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not a live event guy in general. I love sports and I love music, but I hate crowds. So I rarely go to concerts or live sporting events. I usually try to make it to a UC football game, UC basketball game, Columbus Crew soccer game, and Blue Jackets hockey game once every year or two. But that's about all I can stomach. If it's a concert, it has to be a band I really like, and I usually have to be coaxed by friends or my wife to even do that.

I feel the same way. I have passed up opportunities to go to the Big House and the Shoe, for that same reason. I'll go this year to the game at IU, but I have no desire to go to Notre Dame. For me, crowds at Nippert are good, but I could see at some point giving up my tickets. Plus I'm not one that like sitting in the rafters for any sporting event.

I'm not as far to this extreme as you are but I definitely see where you're going. The at home experience has improved so much with technology that it's really closed the gap with the in person experience. For me I have zero desire to go to a game as a casual fan but the energy in stadium when it's a team that I have a rooting interest still draws me in. If it's not UC, Reds, or FCC I'm out on battling stadium crowds.

I still love crowds at sporting events and concerts. No experience like it.

I'm not a big game day guy either. I hate traffic. I hate crowds. Sometimes, I don't like dealing with whoever I brought. I hate the bathroom/concession lines. I hate 'in the way' people. I hate the security guards that think they are god. I hate the heat, but I don't mind the cold.

Saying all that, I go to almost every home game. I've had season tickets since 2007. I graduated from Miami in 2006. I thought for $60, why not, and it comes with a T-Shirt. It's right down the street from my house and it's Big East football. Hell, I can ride the bus straight down Vine. I mean no one goes to UC games anyways. It's not like they have a Ben Roethlisberger, like the Great Miami Redhawks. Boy was I wrong, and I was in for a treat. I fell in love with the rise of the Bearcats and saw the potential of the football team. It has been amazing to follow.

(06-14-2021 07:15 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 08:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Partial to this one...

Very minor gripe... I wish the "C-Paw" at mid-field was bigger and more significant than the "American 'A'" logos. Either...
A: Make the C-Paw bigger or have it stand out some way, or...
(Preferable)B: "Shrink" the "American A" logos down by about 25% or 30%.

I love the paint job overall. And, yes...I'd love to see the "American 'A'" logos disappear totally. That being said, it's Cincinnati's homefield and product. That should be what catches the eye when looking at mid-field.

Much better looking than the past couple of years!

I'd rather they didn't alternate shades of green every 5 yards. That looks unnatural and ugly.

That can look cool in MLB stadiums where they mow different directions on purpose in a different pattern every time, but that's because MLB stadiums are an irregular shape. On a gridiron, it looks ridiculous. Especially when it never changes because it's built into the field. And especially when it has much more extreme color differences than you'd ever see in a mowed field.

(06-16-2021 08:11 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 08:01 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 06:28 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:26 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not a live event guy in general. I love sports and I love music, but I hate crowds. So I rarely go to concerts or live sporting events. I usually try to make it to a UC football game, UC basketball game, Columbus Crew soccer game, and Blue Jackets hockey game once every year or two. But that's about all I can stomach. If it's a concert, it has to be a band I really like, and I usually have to be coaxed by friends or my wife to even do that.

I feel the same way. I have passed up opportunities to go to the Big House and the Shoe, for that same reason. I'll go this year to the game at IU, but I have no desire to go to Notre Dame. For me, crowds at Nippert are good, but I could see at some point giving up my tickets. Plus I'm not one that like sitting in the rafters for any sporting event.

I'm not as far to this extreme as you are but I definitely see where you're going. The at home experience has improved so much with technology that it's really closed the gap with the in person experience. For me I have zero desire to go to a game as a casual fan but the energy in stadium when it's a team that I have a rooting interest still draws me in. If it's not UC, Reds, or FCC I'm out on battling stadium crowds.

Yep...my last non-Nippert college football experience was such a horrible experience that I'll likely never see another CFB game in person outside of Nippert or UC's CFP/NY6 games moving forward.

Notre Dame is a pretty good experience. I went to 4 or 5 games there in the early 10s. Their stadium is large and expansive; the causeways are so large that it doesn't feel crowded. Plenty of restrooms and concessions.

Also the campus is beautiful. My wife hates crowds, and she had a blast one time when she tailgated with us and skipped the game to walk around campus.

Finally, almost everyone arrives from the North (I-80). So if you're coming from the South, there's not much traffic (tough luck for Rath) until you get on campus. Especially if you get off state route 31 earlier than Google Maps tells you and sneak in by back roads (I usually get off 31 in downtown and head North on Hill Street and then park in the neighborhood south of campus. It's a large residential neighborhood with free on-street parking. I've done that 3 times and never run into ANY gameday traffic and never had to walk more than half mile to campus.).

(06-16-2021 09:24 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 07:15 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 08:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Partial to this one...

Very minor gripe... I wish the "C-Paw" at mid-field was bigger and more significant than the "American 'A'" logos. Either...
A: Make the C-Paw bigger or have it stand out some way, or...
(Preferable)B: "Shrink" the "American A" logos down by about 25% or 30%.

I love the paint job overall. And, yes...I'd love to see the "American 'A'" logos disappear totally. That being said, it's Cincinnati's homefield and product. That should be what catches the eye when looking at mid-field.

Much better looking than the past couple of years!

I'd rather they didn't alternate shades of green every 5 yards. That looks unnatural and ugly.

That can look cool in MLB stadiums where they mow different directions on purpose in a different pattern every time, but that's because MLB stadiums are an irregular shape. On a gridiron, it looks ridiculous. Especially when it never changes because it's built into the field. And especially when it has much more extreme color differences than you'd ever see in a mowed field.

Yeah, I get that. The field at Tulane is such an odd shade of green that every five yards looks dead.

The Nippert turf doesn't look ***that*** bad, but still...

It's less noticeable in person. Also, if the Cpaw was any bigger, it would overlap the hash marks. I can't imagine that would look good.

(06-16-2021 12:35 PM)Bearcat419 Wrote:  It's less noticeable in person. Also, if the Cpaw was any bigger, it would overlap the hash marks. I can't imagine that would look good.

Make the C-Paw run almost to the numbers!

There is a huge difference between sports/events live and on television. You actually see and follow the game much better on television. Being there live you pick up the excitement of the crowd. Living two hours away, it is an extra 5-8 hour investment to go to a game live instead of staying home. I can not often justify the time investment.

However, everything should be experience live at least once so that you can relive that feeling when you watch on television. Just for an example that probably none of the rest of you have, there is no way to explain how great it is to attend a stage of the Tour de France live. It is hard to follow the strategy and ebb and flow of the race live, but the experience of interacting with the other fans, feeling the bikes fly past you at incredible speeds, etc. is impossible to duplicate watching on television. Now that I have seen it live twice, I enjoy the television experience much more. Same with UC sports.

(06-16-2021 12:56 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 12:35 PM)Bearcat419 Wrote:  It's less noticeable in person. Also, if the Cpaw was any bigger, it would overlap the hash marks. I can't imagine that would look good.

Make the C-Paw run almost to the numbers!

There is a huge difference between sports/events live and on television. You actually see and follow the game much better on television. Being there live you pick up the excitement of the crowd. Living two hours away, it is an extra 5-8 hour investment to go to a game live instead of staying home. I can not often justify the time investment.

However, everything should be experience live at least once so that you can relive that feeling when you watch on television. Just for an example that probably none of the rest of you have, there is no way to explain how great it is to attend a stage of the Tour de France live. It is hard to follow the strategy and ebb and flow of the race live, but the experience of interacting with the other fans, feeling the bikes fly past you at incredible speeds, etc. is impossible to duplicate watching on television. Now that I have seen it live twice, I enjoy the television experience much more. Same with UC sports.

So true I went to my first Indy 500 you have no idea from TV how fast and loud the cars are.

(06-16-2021 12:56 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  Just for an example that probably none of the rest of you have, there is no way to explain how great it is to attend a stage of the Tour de France live. It is hard to follow the strategy and ebb and flow of the race live, but the experience of interacting with the other fans, feeling the bikes fly past you at incredible speeds, etc. is impossible to duplicate watching on television. Now that I have seen it live twice, I enjoy the television experience much more. Same with UC sports.

Watched them coming down the Champs-Elysees.....

I love live sporting events. I love the excitement of a big crowd.

If I won the lottery and didn't have to work, I would go to a sporting event (or concert) somewhere every week.

Can't wait to go to games again. Last season was just ridiculous with games being played in empty stadiums.

(06-15-2021 10:41 PM)namrag Wrote:  Dieterle is historic, but not as Dieterle and not as a vocal arts center.

The building is 111 years old, and only the last 26 years have been as Dieterle. The first 85 years were as Schmidlapp.

I was Army ROTC 88-93 and Schmidlapp Hall was our building. The entire building.

It originally served as the men’s basketball team’s second home court (their first court was in the basement of the original McMicken Hall- is that the same building as the current McMicken Hall?)

I did a lot of extra stuff for the cadre, and was one of the only scholarship cadets who lived on campus, so they gave me a key to the building. My friends and I spent many weekends and evenings playing basketball there.

I guess I was in the last Army ROTC class to be in Schmidlapp.

It was majorly renovated and reopened as Dieterle in 1995.

SGM Richard Blue told me that the natorium in the basement is what made it a designated historic building.

We used it for waterproof training (rock sharks, Hooah!).

I guess they filled it in with concrete as part of the renovation.

I guess you were not a Mech. Eng. major. I am sure they did not fill it with concrete. One it would cost too much for the concrete and second concrete that thick requires special procedures to cure.

Is this good?

(06-17-2021 09:14 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:41 PM)namrag Wrote:  Dieterle is historic, but not as Dieterle and not as a vocal arts center.

The building is 111 years old, and only the last 26 years have been as Dieterle. The first 85 years were as Schmidlapp.

I was Army ROTC 88-93 and Schmidlapp Hall was our building. The entire building.

It originally served as the men’s basketball team’s second home court (their first court was in the basement of the original McMicken Hall- is that the same building as the current McMicken Hall?)

I did a lot of extra stuff for the cadre, and was one of the only scholarship cadets who lived on campus, so they gave me a key to the building. My friends and I spent many weekends and evenings playing basketball there.

I guess I was in the last Army ROTC class to be in Schmidlapp.

It was majorly renovated and reopened as Dieterle in 1995.

SGM Richard Blue told me that the natorium in the basement is what made it a designated historic building.

We used it for waterproof training (rock sharks, Hooah!).

I guess they filled it in with concrete as part of the renovation.

I guess you were not a Mech. Eng. major. I am sure they did not fill it with concrete. One it would cost too much for the concrete and second concrete that thick requires special procedures to cure.

I guess you weren't MechE either. That's a Civil Engineering job.

The simple way to remember the difference: Mechanical engineers build weapons. Civil engineers build targets.

(06-17-2021 11:33 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  



Is this good?

Having two All Americans on defense is good. But those poses they chose are whack.

(06-17-2021 01:27 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2021 09:14 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:41 PM)namrag Wrote:  Dieterle is historic, but not as Dieterle and not as a vocal arts center.

The building is 111 years old, and only the last 26 years have been as Dieterle. The first 85 years were as Schmidlapp.

I was Army ROTC 88-93 and Schmidlapp Hall was our building. The entire building.

It originally served as the men’s basketball team’s second home court (their first court was in the basement of the original McMicken Hall- is that the same building as the current McMicken Hall?)

I did a lot of extra stuff for the cadre, and was one of the only scholarship cadets who lived on campus, so they gave me a key to the building. My friends and I spent many weekends and evenings playing basketball there.

I guess I was in the last Army ROTC class to be in Schmidlapp.

It was majorly renovated and reopened as Dieterle in 1995.

SGM Richard Blue told me that the natorium in the basement is what made it a designated historic building.

We used it for waterproof training (rock sharks, Hooah!).

I guess they filled it in with concrete as part of the renovation.

I guess you were not a Mech. Eng. major. I am sure they did not fill it with concrete. One it would cost too much for the concrete and second concrete that thick requires special procedures to cure.

I guess you weren't MechE either. That's a Civil Engineering job.

The simple way to remember the difference: Mechanical engineers build weapons. Civil engineers build targets.

Point accepted. That said I sure as hell know 8 foot of concrete does not get dumped into a swimming pool.

(06-17-2021 01:38 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  

(06-17-2021 11:33 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  



Is this good?

Having two All Americans on defense is good. But those poses they chose are whack.

Has this ever happened before? I suggest we start a fund to build the Luke Bronze Statue now!