(11-30-2020 05:26 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  Bielema would be fine with the rest of CUSA-West. Put the pen to paper!

....I was thinking the same. There's no way we could get THAT lucky.

(11-30-2020 05:28 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 05:18 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Are y'all seriously on the Bielema train? Gah, just kill the program at that point. Expect Gore Jr. to have 35 carries a game for 96 yards because that's the style offense Bielema loves. Fan interest will drop even further into non-existence as a guy with zero motivation and desire takes over a program he doesn't actually care to see succeed because no P5 school is giving him another opportunity.


Just take Old Yeller out back at this point. Need an entirely new group of leadership in Hattiesburg if he's the one they choose. I'm sure the 60 year olds in Petal and Oak Grove would love to have that Bower Ball back though. "Real football". The one that doesn't sell tickets, excites no one, and leaves us 1-AA.

Not sure if serious? We aren't getting him but if we did it would be a steal vs the other options. Proven winners at the highest level do not stroll through South Central MS very often.

....There we go. THAT'S the kind of thinking we need at USM. Now, quit just talking about it, and go pull the trigger on Beilema, before someone hires him away..... as a Strength & Conditioning coach.

I don't know if you saw my post on Bret Bielema HogDawg, but I am a Giants fan. He's actually done quite well coaching our linebackers this year.

(12-02-2020 01:24 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I don't know if you saw my post on Bret Bielema HogDawg, but I am a Giants fan. He's actually done quite well coaching our linebackers this year.

I saw it. But I watched Bielema up close while he was at Arkansas. As a head coach, his "3 yds and a cloud of dust" style of play was much better suited for the old Big Ten.....before they adopted the forward pass. He's just not a good fit in any conference where wide open offenses rule.

(12-02-2020 12:57 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  Expect some pretty big recruiting announcements soon with this hire.

Will Hall has deep ties to MS high school football as his dad is a legend in the coaching ranks. He recruited the state heavily for Tulane.

3 star WR Kanarius Johnson from Laurel HS (30 minutes north of Hattiesburg) has already decommitted from Tulane and committed to USM. https://247sports.com/Player/Kanarius-Johnson-46098216/
3 Star QB Tye Keys from Taylorsville HS (less than an hour north of Hattiesburg) is verbal to Tulane and committed the same day as Kanarius Johnson did, is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. Expect him to flip. https://247sports.com/Player/Ty-Keyes-46050925/
3 Star RB Xavier Evans from Laurel HS is committed to Ark St but is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. https://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Evans-46102406/

Those are the ones I specifically heard named. There are several uncommitted 3 star players in the southern half of the state (mostly wr's, a couple corners, a couple d and o line) and some committed to South Alabama, LA-Monroe that supposedly are finally being contacted by USM and offered visits.

Hopson's staff did not contact any kid in the state that had an offer from a Power 5 school. The instant that offer came USM ceased contact. And very few with offers from other CUSA or Sunbelt schools. This is why USM is in the shape its in.

Also rumors of a couple big transfers of some high profile players from the Hattiesburg area that went off to other schools looking to come back closer to home.

I don't know if this coach can coach. That remains to be seen. But apparently isn't afraid to try to recruit.

I think the three you mention by name are very likely to commit to USM. As for the high-profile local players transferring to USM, I doubt Plumlee will be in that camp but he would be a great fit for Hall's offense. I just don't know if he wouldn't try his luck at another P5 school because he feels he has something to prove after losing the job to Corral. Hope I'm wrong.

Who else have you heard about who might transfer?

(12-02-2020 01:47 PM)MarkMayWasWrong Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 12:57 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  Expect some pretty big recruiting announcements soon with this hire.

Will Hall has deep ties to MS high school football as his dad is a legend in the coaching ranks. He recruited the state heavily for Tulane.

3 star WR Kanarius Johnson from Laurel HS (30 minutes north of Hattiesburg) has already decommitted from Tulane and committed to USM. https://247sports.com/Player/Kanarius-Johnson-46098216/
3 Star QB Tye Keys from Taylorsville HS (less than an hour north of Hattiesburg) is verbal to Tulane and committed the same day as Kanarius Johnson did, is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. Expect him to flip. https://247sports.com/Player/Ty-Keyes-46050925/
3 Star RB Xavier Evans from Laurel HS is committed to Ark St but is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. https://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Evans-46102406/

Those are the ones I specifically heard named. There are several uncommitted 3 star players in the southern half of the state (mostly wr's, a couple corners, a couple d and o line) and some committed to South Alabama, LA-Monroe that supposedly are finally being contacted by USM and offered visits.

Hopson's staff did not contact any kid in the state that had an offer from a Power 5 school. The instant that offer came USM ceased contact. And very few with offers from other CUSA or Sunbelt schools. This is why USM is in the shape its in.

Also rumors of a couple big transfers of some high profile players from the Hattiesburg area that went off to other schools looking to come back closer to home.

I don't know if this coach can coach. That remains to be seen. But apparently isn't afraid to try to recruit.

I think the three you mention by name are very likely to commit to USM. As for the high-profile local players transferring to USM, I doubt Plumlee will be in that camp but he would be a great fit for Hall's offense. I just don't know if he wouldn't try his luck at another P5 school because he feels he has something to prove after losing the job to Corral. Hope I'm wrong.

Who else have you heard about who might transfer?

Xavier Evans has decommitted from Ark State as of this morning.

I was at work and overheard a couple guys talking, one with Oak Grove hat on, and said that Plumlee and Snoop Connor had mentioned possibly transferring out of Ole Miss and USM was an option depending on the hire. So this is entirely 3rd hand information.

(12-02-2020 02:42 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:47 PM)MarkMayWasWrong Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 12:57 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  Expect some pretty big recruiting announcements soon with this hire.

Will Hall has deep ties to MS high school football as his dad is a legend in the coaching ranks. He recruited the state heavily for Tulane.

3 star WR Kanarius Johnson from Laurel HS (30 minutes north of Hattiesburg) has already decommitted from Tulane and committed to USM. https://247sports.com/Player/Kanarius-Johnson-46098216/
3 Star QB Tye Keys from Taylorsville HS (less than an hour north of Hattiesburg) is verbal to Tulane and committed the same day as Kanarius Johnson did, is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. Expect him to flip. https://247sports.com/Player/Ty-Keyes-46050925/
3 Star RB Xavier Evans from Laurel HS is committed to Ark St but is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. https://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Evans-46102406/

Those are the ones I specifically heard named. There are several uncommitted 3 star players in the southern half of the state (mostly wr's, a couple corners, a couple d and o line) and some committed to South Alabama, LA-Monroe that supposedly are finally being contacted by USM and offered visits.

Hopson's staff did not contact any kid in the state that had an offer from a Power 5 school. The instant that offer came USM ceased contact. And very few with offers from other CUSA or Sunbelt schools. This is why USM is in the shape its in.

Also rumors of a couple big transfers of some high profile players from the Hattiesburg area that went off to other schools looking to come back closer to home.

I don't know if this coach can coach. That remains to be seen. But apparently isn't afraid to try to recruit.

I think the three you mention by name are very likely to commit to USM. As for the high-profile local players transferring to USM, I doubt Plumlee will be in that camp but he would be a great fit for Hall's offense. I just don't know if he wouldn't try his luck at another P5 school because he feels he has something to prove after losing the job to Corral. Hope I'm wrong.

Who else have you heard about who might transfer?

Xavier Evans has decommitted from Ark State as of this morning.

I was at work and overheard a couple guys talking, one with Oak Grove hat on, and said that Plumlee and Snoop Connor had mentioned possibly transferring out of Ole Miss and USM was an option depending on the hire. So this is entirely 3rd hand information.

You USM guys are starting to sound as bad as SideShowJoe talking about UNT's football recruiting.

(12-02-2020 01:47 PM)MarkMayWasWrong Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 12:57 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  Expect some pretty big recruiting announcements soon with this hire.

Will Hall has deep ties to MS high school football as his dad is a legend in the coaching ranks. He recruited the state heavily for Tulane.

3 star WR Kanarius Johnson from Laurel HS (30 minutes north of Hattiesburg) has already decommitted from Tulane and committed to USM. https://247sports.com/Player/Kanarius-Johnson-46098216/
3 Star QB Tye Keys from Taylorsville HS (less than an hour north of Hattiesburg) is verbal to Tulane and committed the same day as Kanarius Johnson did, is visiting USM in the next coupl3e weeks. Expect him to flip. https://247sports.com/Player/Ty-Keyes-46050925/
3 Star RB Xavier Evans from Laurel HS is committed to Ark St but is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. https://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Evans-46102406/

Those are the ones I specifically heard named. There are several uncommitted 3 star players in the southern half of the state (mostly wr's, a couple corners, a couple d and o line) and some committed to South Alabama, LA-Monroe that supposedly are finally being contacted by USM and offered visits.

Hopson's staff did not contact any kid in the state that had an offer from a Power 5 school. The instant that offer came USM ceased contact. And very few with offers from other CUSA or Sunbelt schools. This is why USM is in the shape its in.

Also rumors of a couple big transfers of some high profile players from the Hattiesburg area that went off to other schools looking to come back closer to home.

I don't know if this coach can coach. That remains to be seen. But apparently isn't afraid to try to recruit.

I think the three you mention by name are very likely to commit to USM. As for the high-profile local players transferring to USM, I doubt Plumlee will be in that camp but he would be a great fit for Hall's offense. I just don't know if he wouldn't try his luck at another P5 school because he feels he has something to prove after losing the job to Corral. Hope I'm wrong.

Who else have you heard about who might transfer?

We need to take as many transfers as possible. We have tons of scholarships available now. I don't think Plumlee's passing abilities can be fixed and he should focus on baseball or switch positions in football. He may just be happy playing baseball at Ole Miss.

(12-02-2020 02:45 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:47 PM)MarkMayWasWrong Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 12:57 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  Expect some pretty big recruiting announcements soon with this hire.

Will Hall has deep ties to MS high school football as his dad is a legend in the coaching ranks. He recruited the state heavily for Tulane.

3 star WR Kanarius Johnson from Laurel HS (30 minutes north of Hattiesburg) has already decommitted from Tulane and committed to USM. https://247sports.com/Player/Kanarius-Johnson-46098216/
3 Star QB Tye Keys from Taylorsville HS (less than an hour north of Hattiesburg) is verbal to Tulane and committed the same day as Kanarius Johnson did, is visiting USM in the next coupl3e weeks. Expect him to flip. https://247sports.com/Player/Ty-Keyes-46050925/
3 Star RB Xavier Evans from Laurel HS is committed to Ark St but is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. https://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Evans-46102406/

Those are the ones I specifically heard named. There are several uncommitted 3 star players in the southern half of the state (mostly wr's, a couple corners, a couple d and o line) and some committed to South Alabama, LA-Monroe that supposedly are finally being contacted by USM and offered visits.

Hopson's staff did not contact any kid in the state that had an offer from a Power 5 school. The instant that offer came USM ceased contact. And very few with offers from other CUSA or Sunbelt schools. This is why USM is in the shape its in.

Also rumors of a couple big transfers of some high profile players from the Hattiesburg area that went off to other schools looking to come back closer to home.

I don't know if this coach can coach. That remains to be seen. But apparently isn't afraid to try to recruit.

I think the three you mention by name are very likely to commit to USM. As for the high-profile local players transferring to USM, I doubt Plumlee will be in that camp but he would be a great fit for Hall's offense. I just don't know if he wouldn't try his luck at another P5 school because he feels he has something to prove after losing the job to Corral. Hope I'm wrong.

Who else have you heard about who might transfer?

We need to take as many transfers as possible. We have tons of scholarships available now. I don't think Plumlee's passing abilities can be fixed and he should focus on baseball or switch positions in football. He may just be happy playing baseball at Ole Miss.

We could have Brett Favre or Peyton Manning here but until our OL learns how to block we'll never have a great QB because he'll be too busy running for his life getting blindsided sacked.

You need a coach with C-USA experience:

(12-02-2020 02:42 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:47 PM)MarkMayWasWrong Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 12:57 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  Expect some pretty big recruiting announcements soon with this hire.

Will Hall has deep ties to MS high school football as his dad is a legend in the coaching ranks. He recruited the state heavily for Tulane.

3 star WR Kanarius Johnson from Laurel HS (30 minutes north of Hattiesburg) has already decommitted from Tulane and committed to USM. https://247sports.com/Player/Kanarius-Johnson-46098216/
3 Star QB Tye Keys from Taylorsville HS (less than an hour north of Hattiesburg) is verbal to Tulane and committed the same day as Kanarius Johnson did, is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. Expect him to flip. https://247sports.com/Player/Ty-Keyes-46050925/
3 Star RB Xavier Evans from Laurel HS is committed to Ark St but is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. https://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Evans-46102406/

Those are the ones I specifically heard named. There are several uncommitted 3 star players in the southern half of the state (mostly wr's, a couple corners, a couple d and o line) and some committed to South Alabama, LA-Monroe that supposedly are finally being contacted by USM and offered visits.

Hopson's staff did not contact any kid in the state that had an offer from a Power 5 school. The instant that offer came USM ceased contact. And very few with offers from other CUSA or Sunbelt schools. This is why USM is in the shape its in.

Also rumors of a couple big transfers of some high profile players from the Hattiesburg area that went off to other schools looking to come back closer to home.

I don't know if this coach can coach. That remains to be seen. But apparently isn't afraid to try to recruit.

I think the three you mention by name are very likely to commit to USM. As for the high-profile local players transferring to USM, I doubt Plumlee will be in that camp but he would be a great fit for Hall's offense. I just don't know if he wouldn't try his luck at another P5 school because he feels he has something to prove after losing the job to Corral. Hope I'm wrong.

Who else have you heard about who might transfer?

Xavier Evans has decommitted from Ark State as of this morning.

I was at work and overheard a couple guys talking, one with Oak Grove hat on, and said that Plumlee and Snoop Connor had mentioned possibly transferring out of Ole Miss and USM was an option depending on the hire. So this is entirely 3rd hand information.

I saw that Evans decommitted on Twitter. We will need to backfill at the RB position with the transfers and graduation of Perkins. He looks tough.

I can actually buy Plumlee leaving over Connor. Conner seems to have gotten a great deal of playing time under Kiffen as opposed to Plumlee. I'd take either or both gladly but I don't seriously believe either will end up at USM. I have several Oak Grove hats, so that makes me an authority too:-)

(12-02-2020 02:45 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:47 PM)MarkMayWasWrong Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 12:57 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  Expect some pretty big recruiting announcements soon with this hire.

Will Hall has deep ties to MS high school football as his dad is a legend in the coaching ranks. He recruited the state heavily for Tulane.

3 star WR Kanarius Johnson from Laurel HS (30 minutes north of Hattiesburg) has already decommitted from Tulane and committed to USM. https://247sports.com/Player/Kanarius-Johnson-46098216/
3 Star QB Tye Keys from Taylorsville HS (less than an hour north of Hattiesburg) is verbal to Tulane and committed the same day as Kanarius Johnson did, is visiting USM in the next coupl3e weeks. Expect him to flip. https://247sports.com/Player/Ty-Keyes-46050925/
3 Star RB Xavier Evans from Laurel HS is committed to Ark St but is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. https://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Evans-46102406/

Those are the ones I specifically heard named. There are several uncommitted 3 star players in the southern half of the state (mostly wr's, a couple corners, a couple d and o line) and some committed to South Alabama, LA-Monroe that supposedly are finally being contacted by USM and offered visits.

Hopson's staff did not contact any kid in the state that had an offer from a Power 5 school. The instant that offer came USM ceased contact. And very few with offers from other CUSA or Sunbelt schools. This is why USM is in the shape its in.

Also rumors of a couple big transfers of some high profile players from the Hattiesburg area that went off to other schools looking to come back closer to home.

I don't know if this coach can coach. That remains to be seen. But apparently isn't afraid to try to recruit.

I think the three you mention by name are very likely to commit to USM. As for the high-profile local players transferring to USM, I doubt Plumlee will be in that camp but he would be a great fit for Hall's offense. I just don't know if he wouldn't try his luck at another P5 school because he feels he has something to prove after losing the job to Corral. Hope I'm wrong.

Who else have you heard about who might transfer?

We need to take as many transfers as possible. We have tons of scholarships available now. I don't think Plumlee's passing abilities can be fixed and he should focus on baseball or switch positions in football. He may just be happy playing baseball at Ole Miss.

Plumlee's passing abilities aren't that bad. Maybe not a great fit in the SEC, but he could be more than serviceable in CUSA or another G5 school. I don't know if he should concentrate on baseball only. He didn't play all that much last year but the season was canceled so who knows what Ole Miss might do with him on the baseball diamond. They seemed more enamored with Ealy and they play the same position if I recall. He is a solid baseball player but his speed and athletic ability are better used on the gridiron. Changing positions seems likely if he stays at Ole Miss. He has great speed, but I haven't seen the wiggle you need to be a great WR. He played DB as a freshman at OG and was quite good. That may be the path for him and the main reason he will stay put but I'm just speculating. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk on a player that will probably never wear black and gold.

Per FootballScoop, Will Hall is already hard at work filling out his staff in Hattiesburg. The following coaches are expected to join Hall's staff:

Offensive Coordinator: Sam Gregg (current OL Coach at Liberty)
WR Coach: Desmond Lindsey (current Ark. State RB Coach)
OL Coach: Cody Kennedy (current Tulane OL Coach)

All 3 coaches thus far have extensive experience working with Hall.

https://footballscoop.com/news/a-look-at...7MpQNRJR5o

There's also rumors that Ole Miss QB John Rhys Plumlee and Ole Miss RB Snoop Connor might transfer to USM. Who knows the validity of this...but all rumors. Both kids played HS football in Hattiesburg (Snoop at Hattiesburg HS and Plumlee at Oak Grove HS - both were recruited by USM staff and Will Hall).

Good hire. Hall will do well. Will finally get the recruits we have been capable of getting. Should be best classes since Fedora. I see Plumlee transferring. Only thing to save CUSA from us now is Covid (and communism). :)

Recruiting isnt everything. I think USM was #1 or #2 in almost every year from 2006 to 2015....

12 wins once
9 wins once
8 wins once
3
1
0
7
7
7

Recruiting to a system and being able to identify under rated skill position players is the key to winning CUSA. A lot more important than where you class ranks in CUSA. Then finding the big uglies that might be a weakness in another style but fits the style you are playing...like a glove

(12-02-2020 08:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Recruiting isnt everything. I think USM was #1 or #2 in almost every year from 2006 to 2015....

12 wins once
9 wins once
8 wins once
3
1
0
7
7
7

Recruiting to a system and being able to identify under rated skill position players is the key to winning CUSA. A lot more important than where you class ranks in CUSA. Then finding the big uglies that might be a weakness in another style but fits the style you are playing...like a glove

Good coaches and good recruiting is a deadly combination. We haven't had either these past few years.

Hop was a terrible in-game coach who signed kids who (mostly) had terrible "other offers". I could care less about how many stars are by their names. I put more value in who else has offered the kid.

Will Hall has a (.736) win percentage as a HC. He's a winner, period. He's won multiple championships as a HC at the DII level. That and he knows every damn HS coach in the state of Mississippi. I'm okay with this hire.

(12-02-2020 08:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Recruiting isnt everything. I think USM was #1 or #2 in almost every year from 2006 to 2015....

12 wins once
9 wins once
8 wins once
3
1
0
7
7
7

Recruiting to a system and being able to identify under rated skill position players is the key to winning CUSA. A lot more important than where you class ranks in CUSA. Then finding the big uglies that might be a weakness in another style but fits the style you are playing...like a glove

No, we were not #1 or #2 in CUSA from 2006-2015. We were #1-#2 in most of the Bower years in that time frame. Having the best recruits but not winning the conference is why he got fired. Fedora recruited good and won the conference.

No one said recruits were EVERYTHING. But only an idiot would want 2 and 3 star guys over 4 and 5 star guys. Im pretty sure everyone on this board wants their team to have great recruits. Im happy bc USM will now have better recruits. Couple that with a MUCH better coach and its something USM has been waiting for...and has needed bad.

Also, if you are going to reference 2006-2015, you shouldn't post records from 2011-2019. Unless, of course, you are trying to misrepresent the truth to appease your narrative. You would never do that though.

(12-02-2020 04:54 PM)MarkMayWasWrong Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 02:42 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:47 PM)MarkMayWasWrong Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 12:57 PM)ElectroEagle Wrote:  Expect some pretty big recruiting announcements soon with this hire.

Will Hall has deep ties to MS high school football as his dad is a legend in the coaching ranks. He recruited the state heavily for Tulane.

3 star WR Kanarius Johnson from Laurel HS (30 minutes north of Hattiesburg) has already decommitted from Tulane and committed to USM. https://247sports.com/Player/Kanarius-Johnson-46098216/
3 Star QB Tye Keys from Taylorsville HS (less than an hour north of Hattiesburg) is verbal to Tulane and committed the same day as Kanarius Johnson did, is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. Expect him to flip. https://247sports.com/Player/Ty-Keyes-46050925/
3 Star RB Xavier Evans from Laurel HS is committed to Ark St but is visiting USM in the next couple weeks. https://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Evans-46102406/

Those are the ones I specifically heard named. There are several uncommitted 3 star players in the southern half of the state (mostly wr's, a couple corners, a couple d and o line) and some committed to South Alabama, LA-Monroe that supposedly are finally being contacted by USM and offered visits.

Hopson's staff did not contact any kid in the state that had an offer from a Power 5 school. The instant that offer came USM ceased contact. And very few with offers from other CUSA or Sunbelt schools. This is why USM is in the shape its in.

Also rumors of a couple big transfers of some high profile players from the Hattiesburg area that went off to other schools looking to come back closer to home.

I don't know if this coach can coach. That remains to be seen. But apparently isn't afraid to try to recruit.

I think the three you mention by name are very likely to commit to USM. As for the high-profile local players transferring to USM, I doubt Plumlee will be in that camp but he would be a great fit for Hall's offense. I just don't know if he wouldn't try his luck at another P5 school because he feels he has something to prove after losing the job to Corral. Hope I'm wrong.

Who else have you heard about who might transfer?

Xavier Evans has decommitted from Ark State as of this morning.

I was at work and overheard a couple guys talking, one with Oak Grove hat on, and said that Plumlee and Snoop Connor had mentioned possibly transferring out of Ole Miss and USM was an option depending on the hire. So this is entirely 3rd hand information.

I saw that Evans decommitted on Twitter. We will need to backfill at the RB position with the transfers and graduation of Perkins. He looks tough.

I can actually buy Plumlee leaving over Connor. Conner seems to have gotten a great deal of playing time under Kiffen as opposed to Plumlee. I'd take either or both gladly but I don't seriously believe either will end up at USM. I have several Oak Grove hats, so that makes me an authority too:-)

According to Rick Cleveland today Hall was teammates at North alabama with the OG head coach. Causey has also mentioned to some people he could get plumlee to transfer back. Im not sure what need we have for a piano player, but if we find use for one he may be our guy

(12-02-2020 11:06 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 08:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Recruiting isnt everything. I think USM was #1 or #2 in almost every year from 2006 to 2015....

12 wins once
9 wins once
8 wins once
3
1
0
7
7
7

Recruiting to a system and being able to identify under rated skill position players is the key to winning CUSA. A lot more important than where you class ranks in CUSA. Then finding the big uglies that might be a weakness in another style but fits the style you are playing...like a glove

No, we were not #1 or #2 in CUSA from 2006-2015. We were #1-#2 in most of the Bower years in that time frame. Having the best recruits but not winning the conference is why he got fired. Fedora recruited good and won the conference.

No one said recruits were EVERYTHING. But only an idiot would want 2 and 3 star guys over 4 and 5 star guys. Im pretty sure everyone on this board wants their team to have great recruits. Im happy bc USM will now have better recruits. Couple that with a MUCH better coach and its something USM has been waiting for...and has needed bad.

Also, if you are going to reference 2006-2015, you shouldn't post records from 2011-2019. Unless, of course, you are trying to misrepresent the truth to appease your narrative. You would never do that though.

I dont post just to hear myself speak. Below are the 247 class rankings for USM from the years I listed. Just as I said "USM was #1 or #2 for most of those years. Now we can go even farther back and as I said...recruiting ranking doesnt equal winning CUSA. I didnt use USM to 2019...I started the year after the class and stopped at 2015.

Looks like you are not much of a fan if you dont know your own team. Oh, that's right...you are not much of a fan. You are the one that doesnt go to games unless you get a free or discounted ticket. Never a season ticket holder. Now do I have to go back about 5 years to get the exact wording of what you said? Dont worry I'm not wasting my time on finding that post. But you made it clear...you dont invest your money on USM

USM had the #1 or #2 recruiting class in 12 out of 16 years and won TWO CUSA championships. And the #3 class 3 out of the other 4. You are a freaking idiot I didn't misrepresent anything... You have the opinion recruiting equal wins at a higher level. Yours is still just that, a opinion. I backed my opinion up with facts. Recruiting at the top of the conference might not get you championships. That is what we all are talking about...competing for a CUSA championship. If you dont win that a great season, not 1 game above .500. Not one of us are getting 4 and 5 star recruits unless theres a ton of baggage and that is very very very rare. So all of us are building off 2 and 3 star players. As I pointed out recruiting/winning comes down to spotting that player(s) that fit your system but might be under value by the star rating system. The Nick Mullens of college football that was a low 2 star that had offers from USM, Furman, Jacksonville State, and Murray State

2015 9-5
2014 3-9
2013 1-11
2012 0-12
2011 12-2
2010 8-5
2009 7-6
2008 7-6
2007 7-6

2006 9-5

https://247sports.com/college/southern-m...l/Commits/
USM recruiting rankings
2006 2
2007 1
2008 1
2009 1
2010 1
2011 3
2012 1
2013 2
2014 3
2015 5
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USM class ranking and record
2005 #1 7-5
2004 #1 7-5
2003 #3 9-4
2002 #1 7-6
2001 #2 6-5
2000 #1 8-4