(01-15-2021 07:46 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 07:35 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 07:30 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 10:40 AM)olddawg Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 08:40 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I believe he already announced that he is going to take the extra year of eligibility and return to Uva next season- based on that worked out to be a good move for him.

That makes sense. Adeeb is listed on the UVA roster for next season but Amos is not.

Both Adeeb and Amos were 5th yr seniors last season.

Yes but everyone gets an extra year this season.

So everyone on the team as of last year gets to play 5 seasons, then? So in other words a Sr during the Winter/Spring season (if it happens) is a Sr again during the fall, and same with freshmen, Sophs, and Juniors?

This year does not count toward eligibility, so yes.

Adeeb exercised the option for an extra year. Amos will go pro.

Almost time to watch Marlowe against the Ravens. Too bad Green had to miss the game against the Rams. If Green Bay makes the Super Bowl, will he be healed up by then or is he done for the season?

We were close to having five Dukes in the divisional round. Pretty cool.

Nice Stinnie mention on the broadcast there

Not a big Brady fan but I’ll root today . Trying to watch Stinnie and it looks like he’s doing a good job . The left side of the line is having the breakdowns . Seems as if Stinnie is actually winning his matchups so far as far as I can tell . Even helping to open up some running room


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Looks like Stinnie played great! Joe Buck mentioned him, "Third year pro out of James Madison."

Stinnie played a very solid game.

He committed one false start, but other than that you didn't really hear his name called, which is what you want from an OL.

Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

(01-17-2021 10:40 PM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  He committed one false start, but other than that you didn't really hear his name called, which is what you want from an OL.

I watched him a lot. He seemed to hold his own. Many plays he did not have a man over him, so we was helping with others. "Visually" he seemed to be the small one of the bunch. Was too lazy to look up to see if that was the case.

(01-17-2021 11:05 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

Fired from JMU, then back to D-III John Carroll U. as DC. Five years later, he's a head coach in the NFL. Quite the career trajectory!

(01-18-2021 10:59 AM)Sir Duke Wrote:  

(01-17-2021 11:05 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

Fired from JMU, then back to D-III John Carroll U. as DC. Five years later, he's a head coach in the NFL. Quite the career trajectory!

Gotta give Withers some credit. The initial OC was pretty good as well. Throw in Vad Lee, Moorland, and many other recruits. He had the pieces, but as we found out in Men's basketball - head coaching can make a huge difference.

(01-18-2021 11:20 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(01-18-2021 10:59 AM)Sir Duke Wrote:  

(01-17-2021 11:05 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

Fired from JMU, then back to D-III John Carroll U. as DC. Five years later, he's a head coach in the NFL. Quite the career trajectory!

Gotta give Withers some credit. The initial OC was pretty good as well. Throw in Vad Lee, Moorland, and many other recruits. He had the pieces, but as we found out in Men's basketball - head coaching can make a huge difference.

I think with men’s hoops I’m not so sure the pieces were really there- Lewis of course maybe some strong assistants came thru on staff but as this season goes on I think we’ll realize that some of the other guys were limited and there’s a reason why they left. I think it was on the Vcu broadcast where one of the announcers may have been Feinstein said that Coach B said of the guys who transferred out they really only wanted one to stay. My guess is based on style that was probably Banks. Banks just started playing got UTC and has been a little rusty early. Parker has struggled at App and Wilson after a strong start at Ohio is showing some of his limitations.

I guess my point is both personnel and coach needed to turnover at JMU for men’s hoops.

(01-18-2021 12:31 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(01-18-2021 11:20 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(01-18-2021 10:59 AM)Sir Duke Wrote:  

(01-17-2021 11:05 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

Fired from JMU, then back to D-III John Carroll U. as DC. Five years later, he's a head coach in the NFL. Quite the career trajectory!

Gotta give Withers some credit. The initial OC was pretty good as well. Throw in Vad Lee, Moorland, and many other recruits. He had the pieces, but as we found out in Men's basketball - head coaching can make a huge difference.

I think with men’s hoops I’m not so sure the pieces were really there- Lewis of course maybe some strong assistants came thru on staff but as this season goes on I think we’ll realize that some of the other guys were limited and there’s a reason why they left. I think it was on the Vcu broadcast where one of the announcers may have been Feinstein said that Coach B said of the guys who transferred out they really only wanted one to stay. My guess is based on style that was probably Banks. Banks just started playing got UTC and has been a little rusty early. Parker has struggled at App and Wilson after a strong start at Ohio is showing some of his limitations.

I guess my point is both personnel and coach needed to turnover at JMU for men’s hoops.

"I" feel confident By could of gotten much better results from the same players.

(01-18-2021 12:59 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(01-18-2021 12:31 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(01-18-2021 11:20 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(01-18-2021 10:59 AM)Sir Duke Wrote:  

(01-17-2021 11:05 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

Fired from JMU, then back to D-III John Carroll U. as DC. Five years later, he's a head coach in the NFL. Quite the career trajectory!

Gotta give Withers some credit. The initial OC was pretty good as well. Throw in Vad Lee, Moorland, and many other recruits. He had the pieces, but as we found out in Men's basketball - head coaching can make a huge difference.

I think with men’s hoops I’m not so sure the pieces were really there- Lewis of course maybe some strong assistants came thru on staff but as this season goes on I think we’ll realize that some of the other guys were limited and there’s a reason why they left. I think it was on the Vcu broadcast where one of the announcers may have been Feinstein said that Coach B said of the guys who transferred out they really only wanted one to stay. My guess is based on style that was probably Banks. Banks just started playing got UTC and has been a little rusty early. Parker has struggled at App and Wilson after a strong start at Ohio is showing some of his limitations.

I guess my point is both personnel and coach needed to turnover at JMU for men’s hoops.

"I" feel confident By could of gotten much better results from the same players.

No doubt- is Lewis’s better performance the result of better coaching, a lot of hard work and development from Matt, a better offensive system, or better players around him - probably all of these. I was one who was complimentary of the ability of the other guys but in fairness I am now more aware of their limitations- would they have performed better with a better coach of course but I don’t think they fit Coach Bs style the way their replacements do- Amadi, Strickland, Morse, Hodge they better fit Coach Bs style them Wilson and Parker. I think Banks could have been good had he stayed.

(01-18-2021 10:59 AM)Sir Duke Wrote:  

(01-17-2021 11:05 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

Fired from JMU, then back to D-III John Carroll U. as DC. Five years later, he's a head coach in the NFL. Quite the career trajectory!

Went back and looked at the 2014 roster. Notable defensive players:
DL:
-Sage Harold: 1st team All CAA, UDFA Redskins.
-Andrew Ankrah: Future consensus AA DE, UDFA Redskins.
-Simeyon Robinson: future 1st team ALL CAA DT, UDFA Bengals.
-Alex Mosely: future All CAA DE.

LB:
-Gage Steele: past & future All CAA LB.
-Kyre Hawkins: future 1st team All CAA/AA LB.
-Brandon Hereford: future All CAA LB.

Secondary:
-Dean Marlowe: starting S this season Bills.
-Raven Greene: starting S this season Packers (season ending injury).
-Jimmy Moreland: starting CB this season Redskins.
-Jordan Brown: future AA S.
-Taylor Reynolds: 3x All CAA, future AA CB.

So you have a former JMU DC that coached a defense with 3 future NFL starters, more talent than probably every team JMU faced that season sans MD, that underperformed, got fired, yet 7 years later gets hired as an NFL HC. Good for him. Only in America.

(01-19-2021 03:53 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-18-2021 10:59 AM)Sir Duke Wrote:  

(01-17-2021 11:05 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

Fired from JMU, then back to D-III John Carroll U. as DC. Five years later, he's a head coach in the NFL. Quite the career trajectory!

Went back and looked at the 2014 roster. Notable defensive players:
DL:
-Sage Harold: 1st team All CAA, UDFA Redskins.
-Andrew Ankrah: Future consensus AA DE, UDFA Redskins.
-Simeyon Robinson: future 1st team ALL CAA DT, UDFA Bengals.
-Alex Mosely: future All CAA DE.

LB:
-Gage Steele: past & future All CAA LB.
-Kyre Hawkins: future 1st team All CAA/AA LB.
-Brandon Hereford: future All CAA LB.

Secondary:
-Dean Marlowe: starting S this season Bills.
-Raven Greene: starting S this season Packers (season ending injury).
-Jimmy Moreland: starting CB this season Redskins.
-Jordan Brown: future AA S.
-Taylor Reynolds: 3x All CAA, future AA CB.

So you have a former JMU DC that coached a defense with 3 future NFL starters, more talent than probably every team JMU faced that season sans MD, that underperformed, got fired, yet 7 years later gets hired as an NFL HC. Good for him. Only in America.

How do you give up 28 a game with those players and a future NFL coach?

One name _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

(01-19-2021 03:53 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-18-2021 10:59 AM)Sir Duke Wrote:  

(01-17-2021 11:05 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

Fired from JMU, then back to D-III John Carroll U. as DC. Five years later, he's a head coach in the NFL. Quite the career trajectory!

Went back and looked at the 2014 roster. Notable defensive players:
DL:
-Sage Harold: 1st team All CAA, UDFA Redskins.
-Andrew Ankrah: Future consensus AA DE, UDFA Redskins.
-Simeyon Robinson: future 1st team ALL CAA DT, UDFA Bengals.
-Alex Mosely: future All CAA DE.

LB:
-Gage Steele: past & future All CAA LB.
-Kyre Hawkins: future 1st team All CAA/AA LB.
-Brandon Hereford: future All CAA LB.

Secondary:
-Dean Marlowe: starting S this season Bills.
-Raven Greene: starting S this season Packers (season ending injury).
-Jimmy Moreland: starting CB this season Redskins.
-Jordan Brown: future AA S.
-Taylor Reynolds: 3x All CAA, future AA CB.

So you have a former JMU DC that coached a defense with 3 future NFL starters, more talent than probably every team JMU faced that season sans MD, that underperformed, got fired, yet 7 years later gets hired as an NFL HC. Good for him. Only in America.

Do we know for certain that Staley was let go?
I had thought that HE decided to leave. In any case, installing a new defense certainly didn't help his results that year, especially with the amount of youngsters that got playing time. And I'd bet my last dollar that Withers interfered with what Staley wanted to do.
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/staley-leaving-jmu

(01-19-2021 05:43 PM)olddawg Wrote:  

(01-19-2021 03:53 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-18-2021 10:59 AM)Sir Duke Wrote:  

(01-17-2021 11:05 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

Fired from JMU, then back to D-III John Carroll U. as DC. Five years later, he's a head coach in the NFL. Quite the career trajectory!

Went back and looked at the 2014 roster. Notable defensive players:
DL:
-Sage Harold: 1st team All CAA, UDFA Redskins.
-Andrew Ankrah: Future consensus AA DE, UDFA Redskins.
-Simeyon Robinson: future 1st team ALL CAA DT, UDFA Bengals.
-Alex Mosely: future All CAA DE.

LB:
-Gage Steele: past & future All CAA LB.
-Kyre Hawkins: future 1st team All CAA/AA LB.
-Brandon Hereford: future All CAA LB.

Secondary:
-Dean Marlowe: starting S this season Bills.
-Raven Greene: starting S this season Packers (season ending injury).
-Jimmy Moreland: starting CB this season Redskins.
-Jordan Brown: future AA S.
-Taylor Reynolds: 3x All CAA, future AA CB.

So you have a former JMU DC that coached a defense with 3 future NFL starters, more talent than probably every team JMU faced that season sans MD, that underperformed, got fired, yet 7 years later gets hired as an NFL HC. Good for him. Only in America.

Do we know for certain that Staley was let go?
I had thought that HE decided to leave. In any case, installing a new defense certainly didn't help his results that year, especially with the amount of youngsters that got playing time. And I'd bet my last dollar that Withers interfered with what Staley wanted to do.
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/staley-leaving-jmu

I forgot which player that was interviewed in the last few weeks about their time at JMU but he said that Staley's defense was very complex for the college level let alone FCS which is why so many younger players played. Easier to mold new players instead of breaking the habits of more experienced ones. Could also explain why he had so much success at the NFL level

(01-19-2021 06:37 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(01-19-2021 05:43 PM)olddawg Wrote:  

(01-19-2021 03:53 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-18-2021 10:59 AM)Sir Duke Wrote:  

(01-17-2021 11:05 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

Fired from JMU, then back to D-III John Carroll U. as DC. Five years later, he's a head coach in the NFL. Quite the career trajectory!

Went back and looked at the 2014 roster. Notable defensive players:
DL:
-Sage Harold: 1st team All CAA, UDFA Redskins.
-Andrew Ankrah: Future consensus AA DE, UDFA Redskins.
-Simeyon Robinson: future 1st team ALL CAA DT, UDFA Bengals.
-Alex Mosely: future All CAA DE.

LB:
-Gage Steele: past & future All CAA LB.
-Kyre Hawkins: future 1st team All CAA/AA LB.
-Brandon Hereford: future All CAA LB.

Secondary:
-Dean Marlowe: starting S this season Bills.
-Raven Greene: starting S this season Packers (season ending injury).
-Jimmy Moreland: starting CB this season Redskins.
-Jordan Brown: future AA S.
-Taylor Reynolds: 3x All CAA, future AA CB.

So you have a former JMU DC that coached a defense with 3 future NFL starters, more talent than probably every team JMU faced that season sans MD, that underperformed, got fired, yet 7 years later gets hired as an NFL HC. Good for him. Only in America.

Do we know for certain that Staley was let go?
I had thought that HE decided to leave. In any case, installing a new defense certainly didn't help his results that year, especially with the amount of youngsters that got playing time. And I'd bet my last dollar that Withers interfered with what Staley wanted to do.
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/staley-leaving-jmu

I forgot which player that was interviewed in the last few weeks about their time at JMU but he said that Staley's defense was very complex for the college level let alone FCS which is why so many younger players played. Easier to mold new players instead of breaking the habits of more experienced ones. Could also explain why he had so much success at the NFL level

Which is If your Jimmys and Joes are better than almost everyone elses Jimmys and Joes, then why in god's name would you violate the KISS principle, and try to install some extremely complex for college defense?

(01-19-2021 06:37 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(01-19-2021 05:43 PM)olddawg Wrote:  

(01-19-2021 03:53 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-18-2021 10:59 AM)Sir Duke Wrote:  

(01-17-2021 11:05 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Staley named HC of the chargers. Withers ran off the only good coach he ever hired

Fired from JMU, then back to D-III John Carroll U. as DC. Five years later, he's a head coach in the NFL. Quite the career trajectory!

Went back and looked at the 2014 roster. Notable defensive players:
DL:
-Sage Harold: 1st team All CAA, UDFA Redskins.
-Andrew Ankrah: Future consensus AA DE, UDFA Redskins.
-Simeyon Robinson: future 1st team ALL CAA DT, UDFA Bengals.
-Alex Mosely: future All CAA DE.

LB:
-Gage Steele: past & future All CAA LB.
-Kyre Hawkins: future 1st team All CAA/AA LB.
-Brandon Hereford: future All CAA LB.

Secondary:
-Dean Marlowe: starting S this season Bills.
-Raven Greene: starting S this season Packers (season ending injury).
-Jimmy Moreland: starting CB this season Redskins.
-Jordan Brown: future AA S.
-Taylor Reynolds: 3x All CAA, future AA CB.

So you have a former JMU DC that coached a defense with 3 future NFL starters, more talent than probably every team JMU faced that season sans MD, that underperformed, got fired, yet 7 years later gets hired as an NFL HC. Good for him. Only in America.

Do we know for certain that Staley was let go?
I had thought that HE decided to leave. In any case, installing a new defense certainly didn't help his results that year, especially with the amount of youngsters that got playing time. And I'd bet my last dollar that Withers interfered with what Staley wanted to do.
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/staley-leaving-jmu

I forgot which player that was interviewed in the last few weeks about their time at JMU but he said that Staley's defense was very complex for the college level let alone FCS which is why so many younger players played. Easier to mold new players instead of breaking the habits of more experienced ones. Could also explain why he had so much success at the NFL level

It may have been complex, but he ran the same defense at John Carroll and was very successful. The year before JMU they held opponents to 9.6 ppg and the year he came back they held opponents to 13 ppg and were very successful. This leads me to believe that Withers who is a defensive coach meddled on the defensive side of the ball. All you really need to know is that he has been successful everywhere he has been except for his one year at JMU.

He definitely left on his own as he new another year under Withers could be a problem.