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(09-01-2021 06:47 PM)JMUPurple Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 05:39 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Take what you read in the Twitter comments with a grain of salt and not trying to open up Pandora’s box but does anyone know if Morelands vaccination status may have had something to do with his being cut? I’d feel a lot better for multiple reasons if I knew that Jimmy was vaccinated but I recognize that an individual decision and a privacy issue so I’m not looking to pass judgement it’s just that’s where people’s minds go when a young/emerging player who performed well grades well etc is cut unexpectedly and then doesn’t even get picked up right away by another team.

The vax question was asked and apparently answered in this twitter thread. According to this Moreland is vaccinated.

https://twitter.com/BenStandig/status/14...7784771587

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(09-01-2021 12:46 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 12:38 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 11:54 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 07:34 AM)Purple Wrote:  Cam Newton may be heading to Dallas. I saw one prognosticator who thought DiNucci would be picked up and believed that the Tennessee Titans was the most likely landing spot.
The Cowgirls claimed Will Grier, but I think Cam would be a wise move for both of them.

DiNucci to practice squad.

I think that shows how much Dallas likes him. The fact that he made that many mistakes and they still want him around speaks a lot to his character. I'm happy for Ben and hope he can fix his mistakes.

I think it would have been better for DiNucci to get a shot with another team. At 4-deep, minus a miracle, he is not going to see the light of day in Dallas. My opinion.

Also, I didn't realize that Ron'Dell was as big as he is. He is quick and powerful. He should get a shot elsewhere and I hope and believe that he can be a starter on the right team.
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Dean Marlow resigned with the Lions. Plus 1 for the good guys! Now hopefully Jimmy Moreland is next. Go Dukes!!


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(09-02-2021 09:57 AM)84Breeze Wrote:  Dean Marlow resigned with the Lions. Plus 1 for the good guys! Now hopefully Jimmy Moreland is next. Go Dukes!!


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It's a bit of a head scratcher he has not signed with someone yet. The press in DC is a bit confused. Did he not join the Washington practice squad due to his decision or the team?

Seems in the press Jimmy is looked upon highly, as well as fans. Seems he was well liked by the team. He's been vaccinated.

Wonder if there is something we don't know about, or perhaps he's still negotiating with other teams.
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Were they just trying to buy time to bring him back? Send a message?

https://riggosrag.com/2021/09/02/washing...t-swallow/

Quote:The 26-year-old CB was waived with an injury designation. The injury? A knee bruise, per Ben Standig of The Athletic, and he’s expected back for Week 1.
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Definitely some weird stuff in Washington. They initially only signed 15 to the 16 spots on PS. Seems like the speculation was they kept that last slot open to sign a LB directly to the 53 and then drop a guy to the PS. Last night Darrick Forrest went to IR, and they signed David Mayo to 53 so that first guess is no longer relevant. Per their roster there are only 14 players are on PS (Jon Toth isn't on roster but was reportedly signed to PS) so they in theory have 2 spots on PS with no rumors of why.

My understanding was that as soon as Moreland cleared the waivers, he automatically reverted to IR. If Moreland is on the PS, he can sign to another team (as long as they add him directly to 53 I believe). If he is on IR, Washington cannot lose him. So Washington took a risk of losing him on waivers, and limited the risk by slapping the injury designation on him for something minor, bc they knew they would get him back on IR if unclaimed and he wouldn't be able to sign anywhere else? That seems possible as the difference between him being on IR and being on PS is pretty immaterial from a dollar perspective any maybe they thought that little bit of extra cash was worth locking him in Washington. Also, whatever that 1 week of pay is, it is less than $60k they would have owned him if they just cut him and he didn't get picked up. All that seems like a lot of work though for someone that you didn't really like (evident by them keeping other CBs).
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(09-02-2021 12:31 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Definitely some weird stuff in Washington. They initially only signed 15 to the 16 spots on PS. Seems like the speculation was they kept that last slot open to sign a LB directly to the 53 and then drop a guy to the PS. Last night Darrick Forrest went to IR, and they signed David Mayo to 53 so that first guess is no longer relevant. Per their roster there are only 14 players are on PS (Jon Toth isn't on roster but was reportedly signed to PS) so they in theory have 2 spots on PS with no rumors of why.

My understanding was that as soon as Moreland cleared the waivers, he automatically reverted to IR. If Moreland is on the PS, he can sign to another team (as long as they add him directly to 53 I believe). If he is on IR, Washington cannot lose him. So Washington took a risk of losing him on waivers, and limited the risk by slapping the injury designation on him for something minor, bc they knew they would get him back on IR if unclaimed and he wouldn't be able to sign anywhere else? That seems possible as the difference between him being on IR and being on PS is pretty immaterial from a dollar perspective any maybe they thought that little bit of extra cash was worth locking him in Washington. Also, whatever that 1 week of pay is, it is less than $60k they would have owned him if they just cut him and he didn't get picked up. All that seems like a lot of work though for someone that you didn't really like (evident by them keeping other CBs).


He is not going to play for WFT. They have already given away his number. The injury designation is a technicality that probably earned him a little extra money. He is free to sign with another team and I am sure he will soon.


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(09-02-2021 02:19 PM)84Breeze Wrote:  
(09-02-2021 12:31 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Definitely some weird stuff in Washington. They initially only signed 15 to the 16 spots on PS. Seems like the speculation was they kept that last slot open to sign a LB directly to the 53 and then drop a guy to the PS. Last night Darrick Forrest went to IR, and they signed David Mayo to 53 so that first guess is no longer relevant. Per their roster there are only 14 players are on PS (Jon Toth isn't on roster but was reportedly signed to PS) so they in theory have 2 spots on PS with no rumors of why.

My understanding was that as soon as Moreland cleared the waivers, he automatically reverted to IR. If Moreland is on the PS, he can sign to another team (as long as they add him directly to 53 I believe). If he is on IR, Washington cannot lose him. So Washington took a risk of losing him on waivers, and limited the risk by slapping the injury designation on him for something minor, bc they knew they would get him back on IR if unclaimed and he wouldn't be able to sign anywhere else? That seems possible as the difference between him being on IR and being on PS is pretty immaterial from a dollar perspective any maybe they thought that little bit of extra cash was worth locking him in Washington. Also, whatever that 1 week of pay is, it is less than $60k they would have owned him if they just cut him and he didn't get picked up. All that seems like a lot of work though for someone that you didn't really like (evident by them keeping other CBs).


He is not going to play for WFT. They have already given away his number. The injury designation is a technicality that probably earned him a little extra money. He is free to sign with another team and I am sure he will soon.


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Initially when Moreland was released, there were several on Steelers forums that I frequent hoping the Steelers would sign him. That would make me very happy.
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Quote: Moreland (undisclosed) reverted to Washington's injured reserve Wednesday, Adam Caplan of SiriusXM NFL Radio reports.

Moreland was waived/injured by Washington on Tuesday, although the specifics of his injury aren't yet clear. However, he went unclaimed on waivers and will remain in the organization as a result. The 26-year-old appeared in every game last year and racked up 43 tackles (33 solo) and one interception, but he'll miss at least the first three games of the 2021 campaign.

https://www.covers.com/sport/football/nfl/injuries
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Finally found something that seems to clarify it. My understand was the same as Polish's - Moreland would go through waivers and then hit Washington's IR. Multiple "sources" said this and that appeared to be the case of based on this detail..
Quote:In regards to injuries, vested veterans can be put directly on injured reserve without being exposed to waivers. But up until rosters are cut down from 90 to 53 players on Sept. 2, injured non-vested players must be placed on waivers through the waived/injured designation before being placed on injured reserve. This measure prevents teams from stashing young players on injured reserve. Once a waived/injured player clears waivers, he reverts to the team's IR. After cut-down day, teams can use the waived/injured designation or they can place a non-vested player directly on IR.

If a young star player gets injured during the preseason, the team will wait until after cut-down day to put him on IR to avoid exposing him to waivers. But for marginal players like Thompson, teams are willing to run the risk of the player getting claimed because of the value of using his roster spot to sign a healthy player.
https://www.nj.com/giants/2017/08/what_d...nju_1.html


However, that above was written in 2017 and I didn't realize that might be out of date until 10 minutes ago when I read this...
Quote:In the past, prior to the final cutdown date, injured players with less than four years of service could not go onto IR without first passing through waivers. A 2018 NFL By-Laws change has made it no longer necessary to place non-vested veterans on Injury-Waivers before placing them on IR. In the past, the need for Injury Waivers caused teams to risk losing the player to a waiver claim and on occasion some teams took advantage of this to poach players. As such, teams would often continue to carry the player on the 90-man roster until the final cutdown in order to not risk losing the player. The new By-Law solves this issue and non-vested veterans can now go directly onto IR without having to first pass through Waivers.
https://russellstreetreport.com/salarycap/waiver-rules/


Sooo, If I'm reading that right, there was no reason for him to go to the waivers if Washington wanted him on IR as he could have gone straight to IR. Soo, if they don't want him on IR, and since he doesn't show up on Washington's IR list, my guess is this is happening...
Quote:If he clears waivers, Moreland and Washington can negotiate an injury settlement to avoid being reverting to injured reserve. Considering he should be ready for Week 1, obtaining an injury settlement seems ideal. In that case, Moreland will be a free agent and available to sign with a new team.
https://www.yardbarker.com/general_sport...7_35754536

I imagine the injury settlement has to be finalized prior to him signing for another team, which is why he is in no mans land right now.
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Saw in the transaction notes in the Post this morning that Tampa Bay has activated Earl Watford off the Covid-19 list and placed him on IR.

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Jimmy Moreland was claimed by the Texans. Hope he kills it there!


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(09-07-2021 03:38 PM)84Breeze Wrote:  Jimmy Moreland was claimed by the Texans. Hope he kills it there!


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Good news, he sticks on an active roster like he deserves, which is why the Skins were probably trying to get cute and pass him through waivers.
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(09-07-2021 03:38 PM)84Breeze Wrote:  Jimmy Moreland was claimed by the Texans. Hope he kills it there!


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Apparently the eagles wanted him as well. Thankfully Texans chose him first.
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I am guessing many teams would have wanted him. Based on last year Texans would have been one of the first teams able to claim him.

In other good news for Jimmy, Texans just traded their top CB to Saints so that opens up a starting slot for Jimmy.
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(09-08-2021 03:25 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  I am guessing many teams would have wanted him. Based on last year Texans would have been one of the first teams able to claim him.

In other good news for Jimmy, Texans just traded their top CB to Saints so that opens up a starting slot for Jimmy.

Hopefully Deshaun Watson does not take Jimmy under his wing. 03-lmfao
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(09-08-2021 03:25 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  I am guessing many teams would have wanted him. Based on last year Texans would have been one of the first teams able to claim him.

In other good news for Jimmy, Texans just traded their top CB to Saints so that opens up a starting slot for Jimmy.

Someone needs to update Jimmy's Wiki page, it says his middle name is Roger.
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Not sure if this was discussed, but this was a good article on Haley by Madia

https://www.dnronline.com/mcmillin-walsh...75771.html
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(09-10-2021 11:22 AM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  Not sure if this was discussed, but this was a good article on Haley by Madia

https://www.dnronline.com/mcmillin-walsh...75771.html

Great article by Greg as always.

A lot of what Haley said makes sense based on the stories that have been told about him. I think as most people know he was diagnosed very late in life with bipolar disorder which was the reason for a lot of how he acted. Seems like he is very grounded at this point and I am glad he is doing well. When we met him at SMU he was super nice.
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Ben DiNucci to the CFL, 'ay?

So, would it be better for Nooch to dwell in obscurity in Dallas or compete for a starting job in the CFL?

I believe the latter. Dallas is cool and all (well, not exactly cool - you can fry an egg on the sidewalk in the summer), but wouldn't it be better to take a gig in the CFL where he will get much more exposure and could perhaps be re-invited to the NFL through the back door?

I think so. Nooch is high on the "negotiation list" of the British Columbia Lions which gives the Lions exclusive rights in the CFL to offer DiNucci a contract.... https://www.tsn.ca/alabama-qb-bryce-youn...-1.1691465
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