(11-25-2020 08:44 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(11-25-2020 08:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-25-2020 06:49 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  I see all kinds of talk, but no mention of Iowa at 3-2 being ranked? You know their AD just happens to be on the committee.

Yes, preposterous.

Just go back to the old BCS — 1/3 poll, 1/3 poll, 1/3 computers. Any bias gets washed out in the sea of voters.

There’s zero reason for a committee where people become friends and suckup to each other. This year the chairman is Iowa’s AD, so everyone wants to score points with him.

Computers are meaningless this year. Pac, Big 10 and SEC don't play anyone ooc and ACC and Big 12 barely do.

(11-25-2020 09:07 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-25-2020 08:44 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(11-25-2020 08:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-25-2020 06:49 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  I see all kinds of talk, but no mention of Iowa at 3-2 being ranked? You know their AD just happens to be on the committee.

Yes, preposterous.

Just go back to the old BCS — 1/3 poll, 1/3 poll, 1/3 computers. Any bias gets washed out in the sea of voters.

There’s zero reason for a committee where people become friends and suckup to each other. This year the chairman is Iowa’s AD, so everyone wants to score points with him.

Computers are meaningless this year. Pac, Big 10 and SEC don't play anyone ooc and ACC and Big 12 barely do.

Yep, it's just dead reckoning this year, the old eyeball test is all we have to go on, and expanding the playoffs wouldn't change that.

So what’s the reason for the Cincinnati-Temple cancellation? It seems nothing positive whatsoever was going to come out of this game so it was cancelled. In fact, it could have been a detriment to Cincinnati.

Sorry, should have read *rescheduled

(11-25-2020 10:33 PM)esayem Wrote:  So what’s the reason for the Cincinnati-Temple cancellation? It seems nothing positive whatsoever was going to come out of this game so it was cancelled. In fact, it could have been a detriment to Cincinnati.

Sorry, should have read *rescheduled

Same reason as all the others. Positive tests. Don't remember which team or whether it was both.

(11-25-2020 10:33 PM)esayem Wrote:  So what’s the reason for the Cincinnati-Temple cancellation? It seems nothing positive whatsoever was going to come out of this game so it was cancelled. In fact, it could have been a detriment to Cincinnati.

Sorry, should have read *rescheduled

It’s not been rescheduled, Temple is done for the season.

The report is Covid for both teams, although people are questioning it considering the number of injuries, Covid cases and other issues already facing the Owls.

BYU UC this week. Make it happen.

i hope i live long enough to see a real playoff in college football where conference champions are automatic qualifyers with wild cards

(11-26-2020 07:00 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(11-25-2020 10:33 PM)esayem Wrote:  So what’s the reason for the Cincinnati-Temple cancellation? It seems nothing positive whatsoever was going to come out of this game so it was cancelled. In fact, it could have been a detriment to Cincinnati.

Sorry, should have read *rescheduled

It’s not been rescheduled, Temple is done for the season.

The report is Covid for both teams, although people are questioning it considering the number of injuries, Covid cases and other issues already facing the Owls.

Sorry, my post was poorly amended. I meant why isn’t it being rescheduled when they both have open dates?

(11-26-2020 08:10 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  BYU UC this week. Make it happen.

Or December 5th.

(11-26-2020 09:40 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(11-26-2020 07:00 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(11-25-2020 10:33 PM)esayem Wrote:  So what’s the reason for the Cincinnati-Temple cancellation? It seems nothing positive whatsoever was going to come out of this game so it was cancelled. In fact, it could have been a detriment to Cincinnati.

Sorry, should have read *rescheduled

It’s not been rescheduled, Temple is done for the season.

The report is Covid for both teams, although people are questioning it considering the number of injuries, Covid cases and other issues already facing the Owls.

Sorry, my post was poorly amended. I meant why isn’t it being rescheduled when they both have open dates?

Playing that game could jeopardize, spreading CV, the Cincy Tulsa game the following week. Guessing Temple was probably going to start the 5th string Freshman QB again. And if Russo isn't 100% healthy no reason for him to play if the plan is to have him start next season.

(11-26-2020 09:58 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-26-2020 09:40 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(11-26-2020 07:00 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(11-25-2020 10:33 PM)esayem Wrote:  So what’s the reason for the Cincinnati-Temple cancellation? It seems nothing positive whatsoever was going to come out of this game so it was cancelled. In fact, it could have been a detriment to Cincinnati.

Sorry, should have read *rescheduled

It’s not been rescheduled, Temple is done for the season.

The report is Covid for both teams, although people are questioning it considering the number of injuries, Covid cases and other issues already facing the Owls.

Sorry, my post was poorly amended. I meant why isn’t it being rescheduled when they both have open dates?

Playing that game could jeopardize, spreading CV, the Cincy Tulsa game the following week. Guessing Temple was probably going to start the 5th string Freshman QB again. And if Russo isn't 100% healthy no reason for him to play if the plan is to have him start next season.

This. Temple is a hot mess. As you said the 5th string walk-on QB, they're down to the 3rd string RB, lost their starting three WR's and I think a LB or two on defense. The Owls have one win this season and have not been competitive at all. I think they've decided to say "no mas" for the rest of this season.

Miami being behind Georgia and Cincinnati indicates how much of these rankings are about the eye test.

Miami’s only loss is against Clemson. The Tigers dominated the game, played in South Carolina. They have also won three close games.

Georgia has lost twice and played fewer games. Their losses were to highly ranked Alabama and Florida...neither game was truly a toss-up, nor a blowout. They have also had two other close calls. Playing in the SEC helps Georgia’s ranking.

Cincinnati is undefeated and dominated most of their games. Their AAC schedule is at least deemed close enough to Miami’s ACC competition.

(11-26-2020 10:08 AM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  Cincinnati is undefeated and dominated most of their games. Their AAC schedule is at least deemed close enough to Miami’s ACC competition.

I am stunned that Cincy was treated so much better than BYU. The computers say Cincy's schedule is better than BYU's, but not *that* much better.

I cannot remember the last time a team was ranked as high as #7 without having played any ranked teams, nor being scheduled to play any ranked teams but the current #25, Tulsa.

And let's face it, Tulsa's rank at #25 is a courtesy rank, to help out Cincy. Of their five wins, they needed a miracle in one (Tulane) and some of the worst refereeing ever in another (ECU) to squeak by. They also trailed SMU 21-0 and by double-digits in the fourth quarter. They didn't lead until there were two minutes left. This is not the #25 team in the country.

I might be wrong, but I think Army was ranked when Cincy won that game. A good win for the Bearcats at the time.

(11-26-2020 11:26 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I might be wrong, but I think Army was ranked when Cincy won that game. A good win for the Bearcats at the time.

Army was #22 at the time and SMU was #16 at the time UC played them. Of course, when schools in the AAC lose a game, its hard for them to get ranked again (unlike a school like Iowa who gets ranked for being 3-2).

The selection committee is not impressed with BYU's schedule- computers be damned. Eyeball test-- SMU, Memphis and UCF were better than anyone on BYU's schedule. The Boise win was discounted because they played Boise who was playing with their 3rd string QB. UC and BYU had common opponent this year- Houston. UC spanked them 38-10-- if they did not play conservatively in the second half it could have been a larger margin. BYU struggled with the Cougars through three quarters, and put them away late in the 4th. This is not me saying this, this is what the guy said on ESPN the other night.

(11-26-2020 11:32 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(11-26-2020 11:26 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I might be wrong, but I think Army was ranked when Cincy won that game. A good win for the Bearcats at the time.

Army was #22 at the time and SMU was #16 at the time UC played them. Of course, when schools in the AAC lose a game, its hard for them to get ranked again (unlike a school like Iowa who gets ranked for being 3-2).

The selection committee is not impressed with BYU's schedule- computers be damned. Eyeball test-- SMU, Memphis and UCF were better than anyone on BYU's schedule. The Boise win was discounted because they played Boise who was playing with their 3rd string QB. This is not me saying this, this is what the guy said on ESPN the other night.

I forgot about SMU being ranked at the time. A good win.

My take is that Cincy and BYU are both strong teams, clearly worthy of being ranked in the six to 12 slot. But I am surprised with the playoff ranking differential between the two. Seems a bit disrespectful to BYU.

(11-26-2020 11:32 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(11-26-2020 11:26 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I might be wrong, but I think Army was ranked when Cincy won that game. A good win for the Bearcats at the time.

Army was #22 at the time and SMU was #16 at the time UC played them. Of course, when schools in the AAC lose a game, its hard for them to get ranked again (unlike a school like Iowa who gets ranked for being 3-2).

The selection committee is not impressed with BYU's schedule- computers be damned. Eyeball test-- SMU, Memphis and UCF were better than anyone on BYU's schedule. The Boise win was discounted because they played Boise who was playing with their 3rd string QB. UC and BYU had common opponent this year- Houston. UC spanked them 38-10-- if they did not play conservatively in the second half it could have been a larger margin. BYU struggled with the Cougars through three quarters, and put them away late in the 4th. This is not me saying this, this is what the guy said on ESPN the other night.

So nice seeing us considered a good win instead of a bad win.


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(11-26-2020 11:36 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(11-26-2020 11:32 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(11-26-2020 11:26 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I might be wrong, but I think Army was ranked when Cincy won that game. A good win for the Bearcats at the time.

Army was #22 at the time and SMU was #16 at the time UC played them. Of course, when schools in the AAC lose a game, its hard for them to get ranked again (unlike a school like Iowa who gets ranked for being 3-2).

The selection committee is not impressed with BYU's schedule- computers be damned. Eyeball test-- SMU, Memphis and UCF were better than anyone on BYU's schedule. The Boise win was discounted because they played Boise who was playing with their 3rd string QB. UC and BYU had common opponent this year- Houston. UC spanked them 38-10-- if they did not play conservatively in the second half it could have been a larger margin. BYU struggled with the Cougars through three quarters, and put them away late in the 4th. This is not me saying this, this is what the guy said on ESPN the other night.

So nice seeing us considered a good win instead of a bad win.


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SMU has a solid team. Full credit.

Cincinnati vs BYU really needs to happen on December 5. The CFP committee has set-up a scenario with the ACC, BIG and SEC conference champions are almost automatically in this year’s playoff. This leaves one spot available...but P5 programs will be favored for the last spot unless Cincy takes this risk.

Playing more games really should be an advantage for the selection committee. The winner of the game will get a boost in comparison to the PAC and BIG which will have very limited games played. The eye-test / SOS will also get a major lift. Currently, teams like Texas A&M and Georgia achieve their high rankings partly because of the long-term reputation of the SEC. A win in a made for TV December 5 match-up would vault Cincinnati to a CFP favorite.

If Cincy doesn’t take the risk, I could see a 2 loss Big 12 champion (OU has really been good the last few games) or a 6 win undefeated PAC champion sneaking in.

(11-26-2020 11:32 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(11-26-2020 11:26 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I might be wrong, but I think Army was ranked when Cincy won that game. A good win for the Bearcats at the time.

Army was #22 at the time and SMU was #16 at the time UC played them. Of course, when schools in the AAC lose a game, its hard for them to get ranked again (unlike a school like Iowa who gets ranked for being 3-2).

Army and SMU obviously do not merit being ranked.

Cincy has beaten no ranked teams and won't play a team ranked higher than #25 the rest of the way. No way should that be a playoff-level resume.