Reading some of the posts, I have to believe the Shannon hate is misguided. With the kind of offense that UCF runs, this is to be expected. i think the play calling from the offensive side has been questionable in the UCF losses.

(11-28-2020 07:46 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  Reading some of the posts, I have to believe the Shannon hate is misguided. With the kind of offense that UCF runs, this is to be expected. i think the play calling from the offensive side has been questionable in the UCF losses.

Of course it's expected. We will never be able to hold opponents under 20 a game. The thing is even with that in mind we have been awful.

The average points allowed per game are as follows
2018: 24.6
2019: 24.9
2020: 31.4

We ran the exact same offense as right now under Heup all 3 years. Our SOS has also not changed much. That is a a full TD more on average this year. If we held our opponents under a TD this season we would be undefeated. We also just gave up 46 points to a 1-8 team. I wonder if this discrepancy has something to do with Shannon's contract running out this season, and his son no longer on the team. The guy has mailed it in and should move on

(11-28-2020 10:01 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 07:46 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  Reading some of the posts, I have to believe the Shannon hate is misguided. With the kind of offense that UCF runs, this is to be expected. i think the play calling from the offensive side has been questionable in the UCF losses.

Of course it's expected. We will never be able to hold opponents under 20 a game. The thing is even with that in mind we have been awful.

The average points allowed per game are as follows
2018: 24.6
2019: 24.9
2020: 31.4

We ran the exact same offense as right now under Heup all 3 years. Our SOS has also not changed much. That is a a full TD more on average this year. If we held our opponents under a TD this season we would be undefeated. We also just gave up 46 points to a 1-8 team. I wonder if this discrepancy has something to do with Shannon's contract running out this season, and his son no longer on the team. The guy has mailed it in and should move on

How much is he making, and how much would he be making if the team was doing better.

(11-28-2020 10:31 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:01 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 07:46 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  Reading some of the posts, I have to believe the Shannon hate is misguided. With the kind of offense that UCF runs, this is to be expected. i think the play calling from the offensive side has been questionable in the UCF losses.

Of course it's expected. We will never be able to hold opponents under 20 a game. The thing is even with that in mind we have been awful.

The average points allowed per game are as follows
2018: 24.6
2019: 24.9
2020: 31.4

We ran the exact same offense as right now under Heup all 3 years. Our SOS has also not changed much. That is a a full TD more on average this year. If we held our opponents under a TD this season we would be undefeated. We also just gave up 46 points to a 1-8 team. I wonder if this discrepancy has something to do with Shannon's contract running out this season, and his son no longer on the team. The guy has mailed it in and should move on

How much is he making, and how much would he be making if the team was doing better.

1 million dollars per year. He is the highest-paid assistant coach among G5 programs and ranks No. 24 nationally. If you're fine with that then we will need to pay him Nick Saban type of money if we're ever middle of the pack. If you think he is a Top 25 DC in the nation you are taking crazy pills

(11-28-2020 10:40 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:31 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:01 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 07:46 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  Reading some of the posts, I have to believe the Shannon hate is misguided. With the kind of offense that UCF runs, this is to be expected. i think the play calling from the offensive side has been questionable in the UCF losses.

Of course it's expected. We will never be able to hold opponents under 20 a game. The thing is even with that in mind we have been awful.

The average points allowed per game are as follows
2018: 24.6
2019: 24.9
2020: 31.4

We ran the exact same offense as right now under Heup all 3 years. Our SOS has also not changed much. That is a a full TD more on average this year. If we held our opponents under a TD this season we would be undefeated. We also just gave up 46 points to a 1-8 team. I wonder if this discrepancy has something to do with Shannon's contract running out this season, and his son no longer on the team. The guy has mailed it in and should move on

How much is he making, and how much would he be making if the team was doing better.

1 million dollars per year. He is the highest-paid assistant coach among G5 programs and ranks No. 24 nationally. If you're fine with that then we will need to pay him Nick Saban type of money if we're ever middle of the pack. If you think he is a Top 25 DC in the nation you are taking crazy pills

What I am saying is if UCF was running a different offense, like Frost, the defense would not be so pressured. Yes the offense is one of the best in plays, but in time of possession, one of the lowest. The defense is on the field a LOT. When the offense scores less than 40 points or less, this is not winning combination.

(11-28-2020 10:49 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:40 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:31 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:01 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 07:46 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  Reading some of the posts, I have to believe the Shannon hate is misguided. With the kind of offense that UCF runs, this is to be expected. i think the play calling from the offensive side has been questionable in the UCF losses.

Of course it's expected. We will never be able to hold opponents under 20 a game. The thing is even with that in mind we have been awful.

The average points allowed per game are as follows
2018: 24.6
2019: 24.9
2020: 31.4

We ran the exact same offense as right now under Heup all 3 years. Our SOS has also not changed much. That is a a full TD more on average this year. If we held our opponents under a TD this season we would be undefeated. We also just gave up 46 points to a 1-8 team. I wonder if this discrepancy has something to do with Shannon's contract running out this season, and his son no longer on the team. The guy has mailed it in and should move on

How much is he making, and how much would he be making if the team was doing better.

1 million dollars per year. He is the highest-paid assistant coach among G5 programs and ranks No. 24 nationally. If you're fine with that then we will need to pay him Nick Saban type of money if we're ever middle of the pack. If you think he is a Top 25 DC in the nation you are taking crazy pills

What I am saying is if UCF was running a different offense, like Frost, the defense would not be so pressured. Yes the offense is one of the best in plays, but in time of possession, one of the lowest. The defense is on the field a LOT. When the offense scores less than 40 points or less, this is not winning combination.

I completely understand what you are saying and I agree. The defense is at a huge disadvantage each game. I understand that and take that into account. I don't get mad when they give up a lot of yards and points to good teams. But the point I am trying to make is that same defense was able to hold teams under a full TD prior to this season under Heup who ran the same offense. The defense has gotten tragically worse this season. We can do better. And if we can't, then I rather we get someone cheaper who will still give up just as much and we can invest in a good O-line coach. It doesn't get much worse than giving up 46 to an atrocious USF team. We made McCloud look like he should be in NY for the Heisman ceremony

(11-28-2020 11:30 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:49 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:40 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:31 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:01 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  Of course it's expected. We will never be able to hold opponents under 20 a game. The thing is even with that in mind we have been awful.

The average points allowed per game are as follows
2018: 24.6
2019: 24.9
2020: 31.4

We ran the exact same offense as right now under Heup all 3 years. Our SOS has also not changed much. That is a a full TD more on average this year. If we held our opponents under a TD this season we would be undefeated. We also just gave up 46 points to a 1-8 team. I wonder if this discrepancy has something to do with Shannon's contract running out this season, and his son no longer on the team. The guy has mailed it in and should move on

How much is he making, and how much would he be making if the team was doing better.

1 million dollars per year. He is the highest-paid assistant coach among G5 programs and ranks No. 24 nationally. If you're fine with that then we will need to pay him Nick Saban type of money if we're ever middle of the pack. If you think he is a Top 25 DC in the nation you are taking crazy pills

What I am saying is if UCF was running a different offense, like Frost, the defense would not be so pressured. Yes the offense is one of the best in plays, but in time of possession, one of the lowest. The defense is on the field a LOT. When the offense scores less than 40 points or less, this is not winning combination.

I completely understand what you are saying and I agree. The defense is at a huge disadvantage each game. I understand that and take that into account. I don't get mad when they give up a lot of yards and points to good teams. But the point I am trying to make is that same defense was able to hold teams under a full TD prior to this season under Heup who ran the same offense. The defense has gotten tragically worse this season. We can do better. And if we can't, then I rather we get someone cheaper who will still give up just as much and we can invest in a good O-line coach. It doesn't get much worse than giving up 46 to an atrocious USF team. We made McCloud look like he should be in NY for the Heisman ceremony

You must be the most clueless DAD on earth.

Everyone (aka UCF Fans) know why so many Freshmen/Soph had to play this year...and it was because UCF had the most opt outs in the nation (10 players), and most of them were on defense.

Also, Heupel kicked 4 starters on defense OFF the team in Oct...which is why you had practically ball boys playing D on Black Friday.

How come you know known of those basic facts? Heck...you didn't even know UCF only had to pay Shannon $300,000 in 2018 and 2019, which is why his 3rd year contract was so high (his payout from UF ran out).

Why not learn facts before posting? It's kind of fun!

(11-28-2020 10:49 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:40 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:31 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:01 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 07:46 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  Reading some of the posts, I have to believe the Shannon hate is misguided. With the kind of offense that UCF runs, this is to be expected. i think the play calling from the offensive side has been questionable in the UCF losses.

Of course it's expected. We will never be able to hold opponents under 20 a game. The thing is even with that in mind we have been awful.

The average points allowed per game are as follows
2018: 24.6
2019: 24.9
2020: 31.4

We ran the exact same offense as right now under Heup all 3 years. Our SOS has also not changed much. That is a a full TD more on average this year. If we held our opponents under a TD this season we would be undefeated. We also just gave up 46 points to a 1-8 team. I wonder if this discrepancy has something to do with Shannon's contract running out this season, and his son no longer on the team. The guy has mailed it in and should move on

How much is he making, and how much would he be making if the team was doing better.

1 million dollars per year. He is the highest-paid assistant coach among G5 programs and ranks No. 24 nationally. If you're fine with that then we will need to pay him Nick Saban type of money if we're ever middle of the pack. If you think he is a Top 25 DC in the nation you are taking crazy pills

What I am saying is if UCF was running a different offense, like Frost, the defense would not be so pressured. Yes the offense is one of the best in plays, but in time of possession, one of the lowest. The defense is on the field a LOT. When the offense scores less than 40 points or less, this is not winning combination.

Frost was only able to run the kind of offense he did because he inherited GOL's lineman and neglected the position during recruiting. Heuple has had to over focus the lines so we don't suffer a FSU type fall off.

IMO Heuple will have his first chance to really lead and dig into the team/lockerroom next year. 2018 we're coming off an undefeated season and natty, 2019 undefeated in reg season w/ another NY6 appearance, 2020 covid opt outs/blm protests. 2021 will be his first year at the helm where it wont matter if he rocks the boat and dismisses toxic players from the team. He's started that process by booting 4 players for their unacceptable behaivor, doesn't hurt that a couple are seniors and one was the most vocal in wanting hazard pay for playing this season.

As others have said Randy Shannon's performance has been terrible year over year especially with what we're paying him. I'm looking forward to a much more complete team that's on the same page and working together instead of seeing our backup QB going after our kicker on the sidelines.

(11-30-2020 05:50 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 11:30 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:49 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:40 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:31 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  How much is he making, and how much would he be making if the team was doing better.

1 million dollars per year. He is the highest-paid assistant coach among G5 programs and ranks No. 24 nationally. If you're fine with that then we will need to pay him Nick Saban type of money if we're ever middle of the pack. If you think he is a Top 25 DC in the nation you are taking crazy pills

What I am saying is if UCF was running a different offense, like Frost, the defense would not be so pressured. Yes the offense is one of the best in plays, but in time of possession, one of the lowest. The defense is on the field a LOT. When the offense scores less than 40 points or less, this is not winning combination.

I completely understand what you are saying and I agree. The defense is at a huge disadvantage each game. I understand that and take that into account. I don't get mad when they give up a lot of yards and points to good teams. But the point I am trying to make is that same defense was able to hold teams under a full TD prior to this season under Heup who ran the same offense. The defense has gotten tragically worse this season. We can do better. And if we can't, then I rather we get someone cheaper who will still give up just as much and we can invest in a good O-line coach. It doesn't get much worse than giving up 46 to an atrocious USF team. We made McCloud look like he should be in NY for the Heisman ceremony

You must be the most clueless DAD on earth.

Everyone (aka UCF Fans) know why so many Freshmen/Soph had to play this year...and it was because UCF had the most opt outs in the nation (10 players), and most of them were on defense.

Also, Heupel kicked 4 starters on defense OFF the team in Oct...which is why you had practically ball boys playing D on Black Friday.

How come you know known of those basic facts? Heck...you didn't even know UCF only had to pay Shannon $300,000 in 2018 and 2019, which is why his 3rd year contract was so high (his payout from UF ran out).

Why not learn facts before posting? It's kind of fun!

I did know it was 300k, I was only speaking of this year. And I know COVID affected our team, but I don't know if you know this buddy - It affected everyone in the nation as well. We didn't lose our core pieces like other teams. You also sleekly threw in the 4 defensives starters who wouldn't have even gotten their jobs back because of how well the guys who filled in for them played. Don't disrespect our guys by calling them ball boys when they played much better than your boyfriends. Also since you love facts so much, you would know how much Shannon rotates on defense. The loses are not as big as they would be for teams who base their entire schemes on specific players. You should know that since facts are so much fun! You sound extremely arrogant in your post. Hopefully you polished your ego though so congrats?

(11-30-2020 06:22 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 05:50 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 11:30 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:49 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:40 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  1 million dollars per year. He is the highest-paid assistant coach among G5 programs and ranks No. 24 nationally. If you're fine with that then we will need to pay him Nick Saban type of money if we're ever middle of the pack. If you think he is a Top 25 DC in the nation you are taking crazy pills

What I am saying is if UCF was running a different offense, like Frost, the defense would not be so pressured. Yes the offense is one of the best in plays, but in time of possession, one of the lowest. The defense is on the field a LOT. When the offense scores less than 40 points or less, this is not winning combination.

I completely understand what you are saying and I agree. The defense is at a huge disadvantage each game. I understand that and take that into account. I don't get mad when they give up a lot of yards and points to good teams. But the point I am trying to make is that same defense was able to hold teams under a full TD prior to this season under Heup who ran the same offense. The defense has gotten tragically worse this season. We can do better. And if we can't, then I rather we get someone cheaper who will still give up just as much and we can invest in a good O-line coach. It doesn't get much worse than giving up 46 to an atrocious USF team. We made McCloud look like he should be in NY for the Heisman ceremony

You must be the most clueless DAD on earth.

Everyone (aka UCF Fans) know why so many Freshmen/Soph had to play this year...and it was because UCF had the most opt outs in the nation (10 players), and most of them were on defense.

Also, Heupel kicked 4 starters on defense OFF the team in Oct...which is why you had practically ball boys playing D on Black Friday.

How come you know known of those basic facts? Heck...you didn't even know UCF only had to pay Shannon $300,000 in 2018 and 2019, which is why his 3rd year contract was so high (his payout from UF ran out).

Why not learn facts before posting? It's kind of fun!

I did know it was 300k, I was only speaking of this year. And I know COVID affected our team, but I don't know if you know this buddy - It affected everyone in the nation as well. We didn't lose our core pieces like other teams. You also sleekly threw in the 4 defensives starters who wouldn't have even gotten their jobs back because of how well the guys who filled in for them played. Don't disrespect our guys by calling them ball boys when they played much better than your boyfriends. Also since you love facts so much, you would know how much Shannon rotates on defense. The loses are not as big as they would be for teams who base their entire schemes on specific players. You should know that since facts are so much fun! You sound extremely arrogant in your post. Hopefully you polished your ego though so congrats?

Ah...no. No other team had 10 opt outs this season....and no other team had 4 starters on defense kicked out of the program in Oct plus 2 valuable starters gave up their eligibility prior to Black Friday (Williams and Anderson).

Thanks though pretending you know anything about the UCF Football because your posts show otherwise.

(11-30-2020 07:07 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 06:22 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 05:50 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 11:30 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:49 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  What I am saying is if UCF was running a different offense, like Frost, the defense would not be so pressured. Yes the offense is one of the best in plays, but in time of possession, one of the lowest. The defense is on the field a LOT. When the offense scores less than 40 points or less, this is not winning combination.

I completely understand what you are saying and I agree. The defense is at a huge disadvantage each game. I understand that and take that into account. I don't get mad when they give up a lot of yards and points to good teams. But the point I am trying to make is that same defense was able to hold teams under a full TD prior to this season under Heup who ran the same offense. The defense has gotten tragically worse this season. We can do better. And if we can't, then I rather we get someone cheaper who will still give up just as much and we can invest in a good O-line coach. It doesn't get much worse than giving up 46 to an atrocious USF team. We made McCloud look like he should be in NY for the Heisman ceremony

You must be the most clueless DAD on earth.

Everyone (aka UCF Fans) know why so many Freshmen/Soph had to play this year...and it was because UCF had the most opt outs in the nation (10 players), and most of them were on defense.

Also, Heupel kicked 4 starters on defense OFF the team in Oct...which is why you had practically ball boys playing D on Black Friday.

How come you know known of those basic facts? Heck...you didn't even know UCF only had to pay Shannon $300,000 in 2018 and 2019, which is why his 3rd year contract was so high (his payout from UF ran out).

Why not learn facts before posting? It's kind of fun!

I did know it was 300k, I was only speaking of this year. And I know COVID affected our team, but I don't know if you know this buddy - It affected everyone in the nation as well. We didn't lose our core pieces like other teams. You also sleekly threw in the 4 defensives starters who wouldn't have even gotten their jobs back because of how well the guys who filled in for them played. Don't disrespect our guys by calling them ball boys when they played much better than your boyfriends. Also since you love facts so much, you would know how much Shannon rotates on defense. The loses are not as big as they would be for teams who base their entire schemes on specific players. You should know that since facts are so much fun! You sound extremely arrogant in your post. Hopefully you polished your ego though so congrats?

Ah...no. No other team had 10 opt outs this season....and no other team had 4 starters on defense kicked out of the program in Oct plus 2 valuable starters gave up their eligibility prior to Black Friday (Williams and Anderson).

Thanks though pretending you know anything about the UCF Football because your posts show otherwise.

You still haven't addressed how those starters got replaced with better and younger players. Also none of the 10 opt outs would have changed any of the outcomes this year. But it's fine, you have your opinion and I have mine. Stop taking personal shots, you sound like a child. You don't know a thing about me so quit acting like it

(11-30-2020 08:10 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 07:07 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 06:22 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 05:50 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 11:30 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  I completely understand what you are saying and I agree. The defense is at a huge disadvantage each game. I understand that and take that into account. I don't get mad when they give up a lot of yards and points to good teams. But the point I am trying to make is that same defense was able to hold teams under a full TD prior to this season under Heup who ran the same offense. The defense has gotten tragically worse this season. We can do better. And if we can't, then I rather we get someone cheaper who will still give up just as much and we can invest in a good O-line coach. It doesn't get much worse than giving up 46 to an atrocious USF team. We made McCloud look like he should be in NY for the Heisman ceremony

You must be the most clueless DAD on earth.

Everyone (aka UCF Fans) know why so many Freshmen/Soph had to play this year...and it was because UCF had the most opt outs in the nation (10 players), and most of them were on defense.

Also, Heupel kicked 4 starters on defense OFF the team in Oct...which is why you had practically ball boys playing D on Black Friday.

How come you know known of those basic facts? Heck...you didn't even know UCF only had to pay Shannon $300,000 in 2018 and 2019, which is why his 3rd year contract was so high (his payout from UF ran out).

Why not learn facts before posting? It's kind of fun!

I did know it was 300k, I was only speaking of this year. And I know COVID affected our team, but I don't know if you know this buddy - It affected everyone in the nation as well. We didn't lose our core pieces like other teams. You also sleekly threw in the 4 defensives starters who wouldn't have even gotten their jobs back because of how well the guys who filled in for them played. Don't disrespect our guys by calling them ball boys when they played much better than your boyfriends. Also since you love facts so much, you would know how much Shannon rotates on defense. The loses are not as big as they would be for teams who base their entire schemes on specific players. You should know that since facts are so much fun! You sound extremely arrogant in your post. Hopefully you polished your ego though so congrats?

Ah...no. No other team had 10 opt outs this season....and no other team had 4 starters on defense kicked out of the program in Oct plus 2 valuable starters gave up their eligibility prior to Black Friday (Williams and Anderson).

Thanks though pretending you know anything about the UCF Football because your posts show otherwise.

You still haven't addressed how those starters got replaced with better and younger players. Also none of the 10 opt outs would have changed any of the outcomes this year. But it's fine, you have your opinion and I have mine. Stop taking personal shots, you sound like a child. You don't know a thing about me so quit acting like it

Again...you know so little about UCF...not sure why you keep pretending you do.

Losing Davis and Dawson prior to the season even starting killed the best front line player and cover corner on the roster. (You had no clue that Dawson earned a starting spot and you totally forgot about Davis).

Maybe stick to your other account and stop pretending to be an embarrassed UCF fan.

(11-30-2020 08:23 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 08:10 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 07:07 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 06:22 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 05:50 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  You must be the most clueless DAD on earth.

Everyone (aka UCF Fans) know why so many Freshmen/Soph had to play this year...and it was because UCF had the most opt outs in the nation (10 players), and most of them were on defense.

Also, Heupel kicked 4 starters on defense OFF the team in Oct...which is why you had practically ball boys playing D on Black Friday.

How come you know known of those basic facts? Heck...you didn't even know UCF only had to pay Shannon $300,000 in 2018 and 2019, which is why his 3rd year contract was so high (his payout from UF ran out).

Why not learn facts before posting? It's kind of fun!

I did know it was 300k, I was only speaking of this year. And I know COVID affected our team, but I don't know if you know this buddy - It affected everyone in the nation as well. We didn't lose our core pieces like other teams. You also sleekly threw in the 4 defensives starters who wouldn't have even gotten their jobs back because of how well the guys who filled in for them played. Don't disrespect our guys by calling them ball boys when they played much better than your boyfriends. Also since you love facts so much, you would know how much Shannon rotates on defense. The loses are not as big as they would be for teams who base their entire schemes on specific players. You should know that since facts are so much fun! You sound extremely arrogant in your post. Hopefully you polished your ego though so congrats?

Ah...no. No other team had 10 opt outs this season....and no other team had 4 starters on defense kicked out of the program in Oct plus 2 valuable starters gave up their eligibility prior to Black Friday (Williams and Anderson).

Thanks though pretending you know anything about the UCF Football because your posts show otherwise.

You still haven't addressed how those starters got replaced with better and younger players. Also none of the 10 opt outs would have changed any of the outcomes this year. But it's fine, you have your opinion and I have mine. Stop taking personal shots, you sound like a child. You don't know a thing about me so quit acting like it

Again...you know so little about UCF...not sure why you keep pretending you do.

Losing Davis and Dawson prior to the season even starting killed the best front line player and cover corner on the roster. (You had no clue that Dawson earned a starting spot and you totally forgot about Davis).

Maybe stick to your other account and stop pretending to be an embarrassed UCF fan.

Davis is not our best front line player LMAO That is Kenny Turnier. And our best cover corner is Gowan if you really want to make a case for an opt out corner. You are such a child man it's actually sad

(11-30-2020 06:14 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:49 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:40 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:31 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 10:01 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  Of course it's expected. We will never be able to hold opponents under 20 a game. The thing is even with that in mind we have been awful.

The average points allowed per game are as follows
2018: 24.6
2019: 24.9
2020: 31.4

We ran the exact same offense as right now under Heup all 3 years. Our SOS has also not changed much. That is a a full TD more on average this year. If we held our opponents under a TD this season we would be undefeated. We also just gave up 46 points to a 1-8 team. I wonder if this discrepancy has something to do with Shannon's contract running out this season, and his son no longer on the team. The guy has mailed it in and should move on

How much is he making, and how much would he be making if the team was doing better.

1 million dollars per year. He is the highest-paid assistant coach among G5 programs and ranks No. 24 nationally. If you're fine with that then we will need to pay him Nick Saban type of money if we're ever middle of the pack. If you think he is a Top 25 DC in the nation you are taking crazy pills

What I am saying is if UCF was running a different offense, like Frost, the defense would not be so pressured. Yes the offense is one of the best in plays, but in time of possession, one of the lowest. The defense is on the field a LOT. When the offense scores less than 40 points or less, this is not winning combination.

Frost was only able to run the kind of offense he did because he inherited GOL's lineman and neglected the position during recruiting. Heuple has had to over focus the lines so we don't suffer a FSU type fall off.

IMO Heuple will have his first chance to really lead and dig into the team/lockerroom next year. 2018 we're coming off an undefeated season and natty, 2019 undefeated in reg season w/ another NY6 appearance, 2020 covid opt outs/blm protests. 2021 will be his first year at the helm where it wont matter if he rocks the boat and dismisses toxic players from the team. He's started that process by booting 4 players for their unacceptable behaivor, doesn't hurt that a couple are seniors and one was the most vocal in wanting hazard pay for playing this season.

As others have said Randy Shannon's performance has been terrible year over year especially with what we're paying him. I'm looking forward to a much more complete team that's on the same page and working together instead of seeing our backup QB going after our kicker on the sidelines.

So you give Heupal the benefit of the doubt, but not Shannon. Go ahead and fire Shannon and lets see where Heupal ends up in 2021. I doubt Shannon is fired and I expect a better team next year, IF the O'Line improves.

Geez, even I am growing tired of our fan base. People take this stuff too seriously. It loses its fun when you expect to win all the time. Relax and enjoy the game.

(12-01-2020 10:45 AM)Noise Penalty Wrote:  Geez, even I am growing tired of our fan base. People take this stuff too seriously. It loses its fun when you expect to win all the time. Relax and enjoy the game.

+3

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