(11-29-2020 10:53 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 10:31 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 08:52 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 08:44 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Littrell needs to be fired.

I disagree. Give the man a raise and a contract extension.

Funny guy. Littrell got his raise on the arm of Mason Fine and some good coordinators who have since departed the staff. The real Littrell is showing up.

Here's the catch 22 for fans....

you want the team to win but in doing so you might get stuck with a coach that only wins once every 4 or 5 years. If UNT goes 6-6 next season and then 8-5 with a bowl game win. The AD points to the positive and that now Littrell has it turned around and gets a new contract...

then you are stuck with avg to below avg for 3 out of the next 4 years. Or a total of 7 out of the last 10 years.

That is what I call being Dicky Nutt'ed...avg enough not to be fired but never good enough to win it all. More years than not...just avg . Or more resent.. Rick Stockstill'ed

You are right. I have spent time researching the data, and in my honest opinion Littrell will never be the coach we need him to be at North Texas. This is his fifth season at UNT, and every player on that roster is one of his recruits. From what I have looked at, he has not beating a team that finished their season with a winning record since 2017. This season Littrell has lost to both first year coaches he faced, and an interim coach that has since left his program. And, Littrell is paid more than those three coaches combined. Littrell has to go. The fans at gomeangreen need to wake up and revolt against our athletic department, before we are stuck in a Stockstill situation. Unfortunately, I am in the minority right now. But, I will keep posting the facts until Littrell is fired or quiets.

Well that was an ass whooping and a half, as predicted McCormick brushed off defenders, was faster than I thought and clearly will be offensive player of the year.

UTSA certainly has their arrow pointing upwards, see you in Denton next season hopefully in a post-pandemic setting.

(11-29-2020 03:16 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 10:53 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 10:31 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 08:52 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 08:44 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Littrell needs to be fired.

I disagree. Give the man a raise and a contract extension.

Funny guy. Littrell got his raise on the arm of Mason Fine and some good coordinators who have since departed the staff. The real Littrell is showing up.

Here's the catch 22 for fans....

you want the team to win but in doing so you might get stuck with a coach that only wins once every 4 or 5 years. If UNT goes 6-6 next season and then 8-5 with a bowl game win. The AD points to the positive and that now Littrell has it turned around and gets a new contract...

then you are stuck with avg to below avg for 3 out of the next 4 years. Or a total of 7 out of the last 10 years.

That is what I call being Dicky Nutt'ed...avg enough not to be fired but never good enough to win it all. More years than not...just avg . Or more resent.. Rick Stockstill'ed

You are right. I have spent time researching the data, and in my honest opinion Littrell will never be the coach we need him to be at North Texas. This is his fifth season at UNT, and every player on that roster is one of his recruits. From what I have looked at, he has not beating a team that finished their season with a winning record since 2017. This season Littrell has lost to both first year coaches he faced, and an interim coach that has since left his program. And, Littrell is paid more than those three coaches combined. Littrell has to go. The fans at gomeangreen need to wake up and revolt against our athletic department, before we are stuck in a Stockstill situation. Unfortunately, I am in the minority right now. But, I will keep posting the facts until Littrell is fired or quiets.

Your offense seems to still be running smoothly though despite losing your previous QB and OC. I vaguely remember you guys struggling a bit more last year with the loss of your QB and OC, but your offense seems to be back this year and is at least somewhat of a constant under Littrell, no?

I certainly haven't done as much research as I'm sure you have into your own program, but it still seems to me as though you guys would be pretty good if you had even a mediocre-quality defense. I'm on the outside looking in but it seems as though y'all just need to change the way you evaluate prospective DC's.

(11-29-2020 05:09 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 03:16 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 10:53 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 10:31 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(11-28-2020 08:52 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  I disagree. Give the man a raise and a contract extension.

Funny guy. Littrell got his raise on the arm of Mason Fine and some good coordinators who have since departed the staff. The real Littrell is showing up.

Here's the catch 22 for fans....

you want the team to win but in doing so you might get stuck with a coach that only wins once every 4 or 5 years. If UNT goes 6-6 next season and then 8-5 with a bowl game win. The AD points to the positive and that now Littrell has it turned around and gets a new contract...

then you are stuck with avg to below avg for 3 out of the next 4 years. Or a total of 7 out of the last 10 years.

That is what I call being Dicky Nutt'ed...avg enough not to be fired but never good enough to win it all. More years than not...just avg . Or more resent.. Rick Stockstill'ed

You are right. I have spent time researching the data, and in my honest opinion Littrell will never be the coach we need him to be at North Texas. This is his fifth season at UNT, and every player on that roster is one of his recruits. From what I have looked at, he has not beating a team that finished their season with a winning record since 2017. This season Littrell has lost to both first year coaches he faced, and an interim coach that has since left his program. And, Littrell is paid more than those three coaches combined. Littrell has to go. The fans at gomeangreen need to wake up and revolt against our athletic department, before we are stuck in a Stockstill situation. Unfortunately, I am in the minority right now. But, I will keep posting the facts until Littrell is fired or quiets.

Your offense seems to still be running smoothly though despite losing your previous QB and OC. I vaguely remember you guys struggling a bit more last year with the loss of your QB and OC, but your offense seems to be back this year and is at least somewhat of a constant under Littrell, no?

Um, Seth Littrell is calling the offensive plays now.
https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...150419778/

(11-29-2020 05:39 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 05:09 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 03:16 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 10:53 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 10:31 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  Funny guy. Littrell got his raise on the arm of Mason Fine and some good coordinators who have since departed the staff. The real Littrell is showing up.

Here's the catch 22 for fans....

you want the team to win but in doing so you might get stuck with a coach that only wins once every 4 or 5 years. If UNT goes 6-6 next season and then 8-5 with a bowl game win. The AD points to the positive and that now Littrell has it turned around and gets a new contract...

then you are stuck with avg to below avg for 3 out of the next 4 years. Or a total of 7 out of the last 10 years.

That is what I call being Dicky Nutt'ed...avg enough not to be fired but never good enough to win it all. More years than not...just avg . Or more resent.. Rick Stockstill'ed

You are right. I have spent time researching the data, and in my honest opinion Littrell will never be the coach we need him to be at North Texas. This is his fifth season at UNT, and every player on that roster is one of his recruits. From what I have looked at, he has not beating a team that finished their season with a winning record since 2017. This season Littrell has lost to both first year coaches he faced, and an interim coach that has since left his program. And, Littrell is paid more than those three coaches combined. Littrell has to go. The fans at gomeangreen need to wake up and revolt against our athletic department, before we are stuck in a Stockstill situation. Unfortunately, I am in the minority right now. But, I will keep posting the facts until Littrell is fired or quiets.

Your offense seems to still be running smoothly though despite losing your previous QB and OC. I vaguely remember you guys struggling a bit more last year with the loss of your QB and OC, but your offense seems to be back this year and is at least somewhat of a constant under Littrell, no?

Um, Seth Littrell is calling the offensive plays now.
https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...150419778/

Well, there you go. Offense doing well under Littrell's direction, which still means UNT just needs to change the way they evaluate prospective DC's. Again, I already stated I haven't done as much research into UNT as others have because it really doesn't concern me, but it still seems to me as though they don't necessarily need to start over from scratch, but that they just need to find someone who can put in a workable defense.

(11-29-2020 06:09 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 05:39 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 05:09 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 03:16 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 10:53 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Here's the catch 22 for fans....

you want the team to win but in doing so you might get stuck with a coach that only wins once every 4 or 5 years. If UNT goes 6-6 next season and then 8-5 with a bowl game win. The AD points to the positive and that now Littrell has it turned around and gets a new contract...

then you are stuck with avg to below avg for 3 out of the next 4 years. Or a total of 7 out of the last 10 years.

That is what I call being Dicky Nutt'ed...avg enough not to be fired but never good enough to win it all. More years than not...just avg . Or more resent.. Rick Stockstill'ed

You are right. I have spent time researching the data, and in my honest opinion Littrell will never be the coach we need him to be at North Texas. This is his fifth season at UNT, and every player on that roster is one of his recruits. From what I have looked at, he has not beating a team that finished their season with a winning record since 2017. This season Littrell has lost to both first year coaches he faced, and an interim coach that has since left his program. And, Littrell is paid more than those three coaches combined. Littrell has to go. The fans at gomeangreen need to wake up and revolt against our athletic department, before we are stuck in a Stockstill situation. Unfortunately, I am in the minority right now. But, I will keep posting the facts until Littrell is fired or quiets.

Your offense seems to still be running smoothly though despite losing your previous QB and OC. I vaguely remember you guys struggling a bit more last year with the loss of your QB and OC, but your offense seems to be back this year and is at least somewhat of a constant under Littrell, no?

Um, Seth Littrell is calling the offensive plays now.
https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...150419778/

Well, there you go. Offense doing well under Littrell's direction, which still means UNT just needs to change the way they evaluate prospective DC's. Again, I already stated I haven't done as much research into UNT as others have because it really doesn't concern me, but it still seems to me as though they don't necessarily need to start over from scratch, but that they just need to find someone who can put in a workable defense.

I didn't watch the game, so I could be way off here. But only scoring 17 points against any CUSA defense other than Marshall and maybe FAU this season is not what I would consider running smoothly.

(12-02-2020 01:56 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 06:09 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 05:39 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 05:09 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 03:16 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  You are right. I have spent time researching the data, and in my honest opinion Littrell will never be the coach we need him to be at North Texas. This is his fifth season at UNT, and every player on that roster is one of his recruits. From what I have looked at, he has not beating a team that finished their season with a winning record since 2017. This season Littrell has lost to both first year coaches he faced, and an interim coach that has since left his program. And, Littrell is paid more than those three coaches combined. Littrell has to go. The fans at gomeangreen need to wake up and revolt against our athletic department, before we are stuck in a Stockstill situation. Unfortunately, I am in the minority right now. But, I will keep posting the facts until Littrell is fired or quiets.

Your offense seems to still be running smoothly though despite losing your previous QB and OC. I vaguely remember you guys struggling a bit more last year with the loss of your QB and OC, but your offense seems to be back this year and is at least somewhat of a constant under Littrell, no?

Um, Seth Littrell is calling the offensive plays now.
https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...150419778/

Well, there you go. Offense doing well under Littrell's direction, which still means UNT just needs to change the way they evaluate prospective DC's. Again, I already stated I haven't done as much research into UNT as others have because it really doesn't concern me, but it still seems to me as though they don't necessarily need to start over from scratch, but that they just need to find someone who can put in a workable defense.

I didn't watch the game, so I could be way off here. But only scoring 17 points against any CUSA defense other than Marshall and maybe FAU this season is not what I would consider running smoothly.

You're averaging 537 yards/game (4th in the nation), and 34.3 points/game (#30 in the nation). You can't make a judgment from looking at one game, especially if that one game was your lowest yardage output of the season and your lowest points scored of the season, in effect, an outlier. Now, we can get into what sort of schedule UNT played vs. the schedules of other programs and all that jazz, though I'm not going to delve that far, but you certainly need to look at more than one game.