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This Illinois high school girl makes more sense than most any adult on the subject (me included):

(01-19-2022 02:53 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  This Illinois high school girl makes more sense than most any adult on the subject (me included):

LOL. She's funnier than Tape Face and looks like him too with that mask on.

The Virginia legislature just passed a law that will require school districts to make masking students optional. Youngkin will sign it into law at 3 pm today. Effective March 1.

(02-16-2022 01:04 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  The Virginia legislature just passed a law that will require school districts to make masking students optional. Youngkin will sign it into law at 3 pm today. Effective March 1.

I also saw that the CDC plans to revise their mask guidance next week. I assume it will be relaxed. I think it’s time.

Just another opinion to be ignored on our covid hysteria:

Quote:"Doubtless, many lessons can be learned from this chapter in our history, and hopefully serious efforts will be made to study it. One lesson might be this: Fear and the desire for safety are powerful forces. They can lead to a clamor for action—almost any action—as long as someone does something to address a perceived threat," he wrote. "We do not need to confront a bayonet, we need only a nudge, before we willingly abandon the nicety of requiring laws to be adopted by our legislative representatives and accept rule by decree. Along the way, we will accede to the loss of many cherished civil liberties—the right to worship freely, to debate public policy without censorship, to gather with friends and family, or simply to leave our homes."

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch.

Link: https://reason.com/2023/05/19/gorsuch-co...liberties/


ODU was far from alone in its sheeplike response to covid concerns. But I don’t see how that makes it any better.

That this subject remains condemned to off-topic status - - while we instead bicker about supposedly more important things such as whether our recruits need to be 6’8” or 6’10” - - suggests that the cultural damage done to ODU’s athletic programs by its “my way or the highway” attitude to its fans regarding covid is still lingering, and may in fact be irreparable.

Speaking just for myself, I went from a devoted mbb fan - - who regularly traveled to watch two or more away matches (single games or tournaments) every season, and never missed a home game - - to one who is holding out until August to decide whether to renew my 5 season tickets, which I’ve had since the opening of the Ted. Admittedly, I am just an “adopted” fan, so I may not be the best example. But I bet I’m not alone.

My own sense is that the struggles faced by our program going forward have much more to do with the covid fallout than they do with the size of our recruits. I have no doubt that there a lots of regular posters who disagree. Yet just the notion that this subject - - which had a direct and likely permanent impact on our program - - is too sensitive to be discussed in the open forum is itself quite telling.

(05-21-2023 06:27 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Just another opinion to be ignored on our covid hysteria:

Quote:"Doubtless, many lessons can be learned from this chapter in our history, and hopefully serious efforts will be made to study it. One lesson might be this: Fear and the desire for safety are powerful forces. They can lead to a clamor for action—almost any action—as long as someone does something to address a perceived threat," he wrote. "We do not need to confront a bayonet, we need only a nudge, before we willingly abandon the nicety of requiring laws to be adopted by our legislative representatives and accept rule by decree. Along the way, we will accede to the loss of many cherished civil liberties—the right to worship freely, to debate public policy without censorship, to gather with friends and family, or simply to leave our homes."

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch.

Link: https://reason.com/2023/05/19/gorsuch-co...liberties/


ODU was far from alone in its sheeplike response to covid concerns. But I don’t see how that makes it any better.

That this subject remains condemned to off-topic status - - while we instead bicker about supposedly more important things such as whether our recruits need to be 6’8” or 6’10” - - suggests that the cultural damage done to ODU’s athletic programs by its “my way or the highway” attitude to its fans regarding covid is still lingering, and may in fact be irreparable.

Speaking just for myself, I went from a devoted mbb fan - - who regularly traveled to watch two or more away matches (single games or tournaments) every season, and never missed a home game - - to one who is holding out until August to decide whether to renew my 5 season tickets, which I’ve had since the opening of the Ted. Admittedly, I am just an “adopted” fan, so I may not be the best example. But I bet I’m not alone.

My own sense is that the struggles faced by our program going forward have much more to do with the covid fallout than they do with the size of our recruits. I have no doubt that there a lots of regular posters who disagree. Yet just the notion that this subject - - which had a direct and likely permanent impact on our program - - is too sensitive to be discussed in the open forum is itself quite telling.

This is an ODU sports message board. If you want to discuss the impacts COVID had on ODU and ODU athletics, that is fine on the main board. But this thread was a general COVID discussion and it wasn’t focused on ODU, making it off topic.

(05-21-2023 05:41 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote:  This is an ODU sports message board. If you want to discuss the impacts COVID had on ODU and ODU athletics, that is fine on the main board. But this thread was a general COVID discussion and it wasn’t focused on ODU, making it off topic.

Okay. And (not that it needs to be said but I will do so anyway) you have been 100% consistent on this point.

Regarding a new thread on the main board, I don't want to do that. My goal here is not to deliver some unwanted "I told you so" to other ODU fans, most all of whom don't need or want to hear it. My goal is no more than to pray that this NEVER happens again.

That message needs to be directed to the ODU administration. Hopefully they already understand the level of damage that they allowed to happen to ODU athletics because they were too willing to do the easy thing when it came to covid. But if the ODU administration does not already know that, another resentful post from me on this sports (primarily) forum isn't really going to make a difference.

Thanks again, 13. But I will leave my grumbling in this purgatory.

Posting this here, not because I expect many to read it - - or frankly anyone to care - - but instead as a placeholder for reference during the next election year hysteria that revives calls for politically motivated national lockdowns and stifling of dissenting voices:

Quote:Excess mortality in most high-income nations was worse in 2021 and 2022 than in 2020, the initial pandemic year. Many poorer nations with less government control seemed to fare better. Sweden, which didn’t have a lockdown, performed better than nearly every other advanced nation.

After navigating 2020 with relative success, young and middle-age healthy people in rich nations began dying in unprecedented numbers in 2021 and 2022. Health authorities haven’t focused enough on this cataclysm of premature death from non-Covid heart attacks, strokes, pulmonary embolisms, kidney failure and cancer.

Link: https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-censo..._lead_pos8

The more I think about our response to COVID, the more pissed off I become. I try not to think about it too often.

Went on an 8-day caribbean cruise out of Norfolk with a group of 8. 3 came back with cold symptoms and tested positive for covid. Symptoms are very mild and no doctors needed. Whatever this is now, it is not a serious public health threat.

(07-09-2023 06:17 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  The more I think about our response to COVID, the more pissed off I become. I try not to think about it too often.

Same here, but probably for entirely different reasons.