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My understanding was that Juma got a slight injury in practice on Wednesday or Thursday and wasn't at full strength...better safe than sorry in that situation.
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Its weird that the Saints have spent the last couple years finding snaps for Taysom Hill while future HOF Drew Brees is the QB, but Bloomgren can't find snaps for future HOF Jovoni Johnson while Collins is the QB.

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(Today 11:57 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Its weird that the Saints have spent the last couple years finding snaps for Taysom Hill while future HOF Drew Brees is the QB, but Bloomgren can't find snaps for future HOF Jovoni Johnson while Collins is the QB.

** To be clear, I am both making a serious point, and also a joke

Neither Bloomgren nor Mack have a clue how to develop QBs, but blame them every week for the failures in the offense (which are design and play calling problems more than anything). As someone else pointed out, Bloom did not call the offense at Stanford (Shaw does) and they were only good with NFL HOF level talent. Bloom has never called this offense and has CUSA level talent (anyone think we don't have a QB as good as the kid NTexas had Saturday?).

Bloom needs to get rid of Mack and hire a FCS/D2/3 or HS OC/QB coach that has strong recruiting ties in Texas, and turn it over completely to run a spread offense that all the kids in Texas play and know how to play. I think I may do a longer post over the holiday weekend about the "lack of talent" Bloom has had at QB in his 3 years, as compared to what other schools in CUSA have that tend to beat us. For those of us who watch HS kids in Texas, Bloom's excuses really add up to lack of ability to develop.
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(Today 11:11 AM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote:  My understanding was that Juma got a slight injury in practice on Wednesday or Thursday and wasn't at full strength...better safe than sorry in that situation.

Thanks any word on his status for this weekend?
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(11-21-2020 03:02 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 03:00 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Well that decision to go for it on 4th down certainly blew up in Bloomgren’s face.


We sure gave a lot of grief to Bailiff for not gambling in those situations, but I sure would like to have the 3 points right now.

I didn't read this whole thread but wondered what the commentary was about this.

I can't speak for others but my issue with things like this is situational. Up 10-0, no clock issues with the defense playing well and on the 19 yard line going in, I think you take the points and keep the momentum. Down 10-0, MAYBE you go for it. 4th and 2 from the 40 and a light legged kicker, you go for it. Those were the ones that angered me about Bailiff. He had a big legged kicker AND a mediocre defense. The LAST thing he should have been doing was punting from near mid-field. This wasn't 'that', IMO.
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(Today 10:56 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(Today 10:34 AM)franklyconfused Wrote:  
(Yesterday 08:50 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:41 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 10:38 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  I think the Texans, definitely a mess coming out of BOB’s reign, answered that question on Sunday. At least the Texans realized they couldn’t run the ball and allowed their QB to do what he does.
Speaking of BOB's former employers, we've won more games than Penn State.
Pretty dramatic fall since going into their 1st game ranked #8. Haven’t paid any attention to what’s going on with them. Are they missing numerous key pieces?
They've had a key receiver opt out prior to the start of practice, and then a few running backs got injured in fall camp. I think they lost a key lineman to a season-ending surgery after the first game, too. On top of that, Franklin has said he's personally struggling with separation from his family (immuno-compromised child, so his wife is keeping the kids in Florida during the pandemic).
Thanks for the update! Sounds like multiple things have lined up against them.

They also lost about half their coaching staff. One of their assistants was hired to a HC job somewhere, and took about half the staff with him.
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(Today 12:52 PM)Rice Dad Wrote:  
(Today 11:57 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Its weird that the Saints have spent the last couple years finding snaps for Taysom Hill while future HOF Drew Brees is the QB, but Bloomgren can't find snaps for future HOF Jovoni Johnson while Collins is the QB.
** To be clear, I am both making a serious point, and also a joke
Neither Bloomgren nor Mack have a clue how to develop QBs, but blame them every week for the failures in the offense (which are design and play calling problems more than anything). As someone else pointed out, Bloom did not call the offense at Stanford (Shaw does) and they were only good with NFL HOF level talent. Bloom has never called this offense and has CUSA level talent (anyone think we don't have a QB as good as the kid NTexas had Saturday?).
Bloom needs to get rid of Mack and hire a FCS/D2/3 or HS OC/QB coach that has strong recruiting ties in Texas, and turn it over completely to run a spread offense that all the kids in Texas play and know how to play. I think I may do a longer post over the holiday weekend about the "lack of talent" Bloom has had at QB in his 3 years, as compared to what other schools in CUSA have that tend to beat us. For those of us who watch HS kids in Texas, Bloom's excuses really add up to lack of ability to develop.

I'm not sure how much is inability to develop a QB and how much is that we really don't have a system that fits well with the players we can recruit. I don't know how well you can develop someone to do something that he can't do. Mack has run a spread, so he should be able to coordinate it. I do agree that the lack of Texas recruiting connections is a significant problem.

I remember when Matt Rhule came to Baylor with no Texas ties. Among his first moves were to hire a coach who had just won three state championships and the president of the Texas HS Coaches Association. It obviously worked well. Bloomgren should have made similar hires, along with hiring a few Rice alums.

I said from the start that I had a feeling that the hardest thing about this "pound the rock" offense might be finding a QB to run it. So far, so bad.

I think any offense where we are committed to having a drop-back QB is going to be a problem. Texas HS kids don't run that kind of scheme. We've tried 3 graduate transfers in 3 years and so far have 6 wins in those 3 years. That's not getting it done. There's a reason why those guys weren't starting at a top program before. We're not getting Joe Burrow or Jalen Hurts caliber talent.

I've said several times that the QB we can get is the athlete that TexasU or aTm tells, "Come here and we can make you a defensive back," but he wants to play QB at this level. And that's not going to be a drop-back QB. So we need an offense where the QB runs some and can also throw.

What I guess I'm saying is that the QB we can recruit is Jovoni Johnson. So design and offense that he can run, give him the ball and let him develop, and stop screwing around with grad transfers who will be basically one and done.
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