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RE: Crossover Classic Latest team and pairings changes
Any word on TV for the game?
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(11-21-2020 01:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 01:12 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:42 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:30 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  You are incredibly thick. They aren't going to be living in South Dakota. They aren't going to be going shopping, hanging out with friends, driving to different places, going to bars or having barbecues.

They are getting on a plane, will go straight to their hotel, will eat all their meals together, will have no interaction with the public whatsoever. It will be safer at the tournament than it will be going about their daily lives in Memphis.

So yes, you aren't following. Your argument is nonsense.

Will everyone working/staying at the hotel, restaurants, the event itself, etc. also be flying in from outside of south dakota and going directly to hotels?

Will the event have comprehensive contact-tracing/bracelet scan in and out programs like the NBA did?

Those are your risk factors. Again, no way to get it to zero but the risk/reward on this one with only one non-guaranteed quad 1 game possibility is really out of whack

I'm trying to debate someone that can't read and has no clue what is going on. The players will be sequestered at the hotel. They will eat all their meals from the same place, they won't be allowed to have any contact with the public. They aren't going to be in the stands with the fans.

The players will have contact with each other, and with the other players in the tournament. Nobody else will get near them. That is much much safer than hanging out in Memphis and going to stores, having contact with exponentially more people, and being in places that aren't sanitized and controlled.

I know I'm "mean", but how can you be so thick? Seriously.

I fully undestand what you are saying and honestly dont fully disagree with the overall risk assessment comparison. But the ADs / Medical Staff at TAMU and Utah didnt feel the risk-reward was worth it and honestly doesnt feel like Memphis gets much out of this.

I would play in it just because it is safer than being at home. There are going to be cancellations. Play in as many games as you can. Never turn down games.

These are better to open up with than playing Ohio State straight out the gate. Can't wait to see them.
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RE: Crossover Classic Latest team and pairings changes
(11-21-2020 04:12 PM)holyterror Wrote:  Any word on TV for the game?

Who knows which slot we're in now.

https://www.crossoverclassic.com/schedule/
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(11-21-2020 04:12 PM)holyterror Wrote:  Any word on TV for the game?

May change but the last schedule I saw was Memphis vs St Marys on ESPN2
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We need the games...

Excited to see some bball...I think tourneys get counted as 1 game of your total allotment (3 for 1)

Charter in...Charter out...Business trip.

Obviously there is additional risk...Hence the reason so many other teams have opted not play the event.
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(11-21-2020 04:22 PM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 04:12 PM)holyterror Wrote:  Any word on TV for the game?

May change but the last schedule I saw was Memphis vs St Marys on ESPN2

ESPN.com says ESPN at 3:30
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Thanks .
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RE: Crossover Classic Latest team and pairings changes
(11-21-2020 01:12 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:42 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:30 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:09 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  Is this supposed to be some kind of joke that im just not following?

The dakotas are covid hot spots. Last day of tourney is Nov 27th. We have Ole Miss dec. 5th and Auburn dec. 12th. SEC requires 14 day quarantine after positive test. If a player tests positive the day after the tourney ends he automatically misses both those games

You are incredibly thick. They aren't going to be living in South Dakota. They aren't going to be going shopping, hanging out with friends, driving to different places, going to bars or having barbecues.

They are getting on a plane, will go straight to their hotel, will eat all their meals together, will have no interaction with the public whatsoever. It will be safer at the tournament than it will be going about their daily lives in Memphis.

So yes, you aren't following. Your argument is nonsense.

Will everyone working/staying at the hotel, restaurants, the event itself, etc. also be flying in from outside of south dakota and going directly to hotels?

Will the event have comprehensive contact-tracing/bracelet scan in and out programs like the NBA did?

Those are your risk factors. Again, no way to get it to zero but the risk/reward on this one with only one non-guaranteed quad 1 game possibility is really out of whack

I'm trying to debate someone that can't read and has no clue what is going on. The players will be sequestered at the hotel. They will eat all their meals from the same place, they won't be allowed to have any contact with the public. They aren't going to be in the stands with the fans.

The players will have contact with each other, and with the other players in the tournament. Nobody else will get near them. That is much much safer than hanging out in Memphis and going to stores, having contact with exponentially more people, and being in places that aren't sanitized and controlled.

I know I'm "mean", but how can you be so thick? Seriously.

I fully undestand what you are saying and honestly dont fully disagree with the overall risk assessment comparison. But the ADs / Medical Staff at TAMU and Utah didnt feel the risk-reward was worth it and honestly doesnt feel like Memphis gets much out of this.

Have you bothered to read the tournament safety protocols?

By the way, the tourney is sponsored by and run by, and the arena's title sponsor is, Sanford Health.

Here, let me help:

Bad Boy Mowers Crossover Classic

The Sanford Pentagon is honored to host the inaugural Bad Boy Mowers Crossover Classic. This NCAA Division I college basketball tournament runs Nov. 25-27 in Sioux Falls, S.D.

*****

COVID-19 Protocols

What safety measures will be in place to prevent COVID-19 from spreading during the tournament?

We’re committed to managing this tournament in a highly controlled environment with strict safety protocols. In consultation with our teams of infection control experts and infectious disease physicians, the following safety expectations will be in place for the tournament:

Fans and staff

* Masks are mandatory for all spectators and will be available for free at the door.

* All spectators will also undergo a wrist-based temperature check prior to entry.

* Social distancing will be required and maintained through limited seating and capacity.

* Fans will get to their seats from the second level and will not be allowed on the lower level (except to enter the facility).

Participants

* All members of each team’s traveling party must have a negative COVID-19 test within two days of traveling to Sioux Falls.

* Each member will be tested immediately upon arrival in Sioux Falls, 24 hours before their first competition and once more before the final day of play.

* All members will enter the building using a separate entrance and will only have access to the lower level of the facility.

* All members will remain in a controlled environment throughout their stay.

How are safety decisions being made?

Jeremy Cauwels, M.D., senior vice president of quality at Sanford Health, is also a member of the NCAA COVID-19 Medical Advisory Group. The committee is responsible for providing guidance to NCAA schools regarding training, practice and competition. He is leading safety planning along with a team of infectious disease experts.

How will food and beverage service be provided safely at the tournament?

The Sanford Pentagon’s concessions service will be provided by staff wearing masks and gloves. Concession cues will be marked to maintain social distance between fans. All food and beverage will be served using single-use containers and utensils.

*****

https://www.crossoverclassic.com/
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(11-21-2020 08:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 01:12 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:42 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:30 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  You are incredibly thick. They aren't going to be living in South Dakota. They aren't going to be going shopping, hanging out with friends, driving to different places, going to bars or having barbecues.

They are getting on a plane, will go straight to their hotel, will eat all their meals together, will have no interaction with the public whatsoever. It will be safer at the tournament than it will be going about their daily lives in Memphis.

So yes, you aren't following. Your argument is nonsense.

Will everyone working/staying at the hotel, restaurants, the event itself, etc. also be flying in from outside of south dakota and going directly to hotels?

Will the event have comprehensive contact-tracing/bracelet scan in and out programs like the NBA did?

Those are your risk factors. Again, no way to get it to zero but the risk/reward on this one with only one non-guaranteed quad 1 game possibility is really out of whack

I'm trying to debate someone that can't read and has no clue what is going on. The players will be sequestered at the hotel. They will eat all their meals from the same place, they won't be allowed to have any contact with the public. They aren't going to be in the stands with the fans.

The players will have contact with each other, and with the other players in the tournament. Nobody else will get near them. That is much much safer than hanging out in Memphis and going to stores, having contact with exponentially more people, and being in places that aren't sanitized and controlled.

I know I'm "mean", but how can you be so thick? Seriously.

I fully undestand what you are saying and honestly dont fully disagree with the overall risk assessment comparison. But the ADs / Medical Staff at TAMU and Utah didnt feel the risk-reward was worth it and honestly doesnt feel like Memphis gets much out of this.

Have you bothered to read the tournament safety protocols?

By the way, the tourney is sponsored by and run by, and the arena's title sponsor is, Sanford Health.

Here, let me help:

Bad Boy Mowers Crossover Classic

The Sanford Pentagon is honored to host the inaugural Bad Boy Mowers Crossover Classic. This NCAA Division I college basketball tournament runs Nov. 25-27 in Sioux Falls, S.D.

*****

COVID-19 Protocols

What safety measures will be in place to prevent COVID-19 from spreading during the tournament?

We’re committed to managing this tournament in a highly controlled environment with strict safety protocols. In consultation with our teams of infection control experts and infectious disease physicians, the following safety expectations will be in place for the tournament:

Fans and staff

* Masks are mandatory for all spectators and will be available for free at the door.

* All spectators will also undergo a wrist-based temperature check prior to entry.

* Social distancing will be required and maintained through limited seating and capacity.

* Fans will get to their seats from the second level and will not be allowed on the lower level (except to enter the facility).

Participants

* All members of each team’s traveling party must have a negative COVID-19 test within two days of traveling to Sioux Falls.

* Each member will be tested immediately upon arrival in Sioux Falls, 24 hours before their first competition and once more before the final day of play.

* All members will enter the building using a separate entrance and will only have access to the lower level of the facility.

* All members will remain in a controlled environment throughout their stay.

How are safety decisions being made?

Jeremy Cauwels, M.D., senior vice president of quality at Sanford Health, is also a member of the NCAA COVID-19 Medical Advisory Group. The committee is responsible for providing guidance to NCAA schools regarding training, practice and competition. He is leading safety planning along with a team of infectious disease experts.

How will food and beverage service be provided safely at the tournament?

The Sanford Pentagon’s concessions service will be provided by staff wearing masks and gloves. Concession cues will be marked to maintain social distance between fans. All food and beverage will be served using single-use containers and utensils.

*****

https://www.crossoverclassic.com/

Looks pretty sketchy to me.
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(11-21-2020 08:48 PM)DoomHaynesJr Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 08:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 01:12 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:42 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:30 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  Will everyone working/staying at the hotel, restaurants, the event itself, etc. also be flying in from outside of south dakota and going directly to hotels?

Will the event have comprehensive contact-tracing/bracelet scan in and out programs like the NBA did?

Those are your risk factors. Again, no way to get it to zero but the risk/reward on this one with only one non-guaranteed quad 1 game possibility is really out of whack

I'm trying to debate someone that can't read and has no clue what is going on. The players will be sequestered at the hotel. They will eat all their meals from the same place, they won't be allowed to have any contact with the public. They aren't going to be in the stands with the fans.

The players will have contact with each other, and with the other players in the tournament. Nobody else will get near them. That is much much safer than hanging out in Memphis and going to stores, having contact with exponentially more people, and being in places that aren't sanitized and controlled.

I know I'm "mean", but how can you be so thick? Seriously.

I fully undestand what you are saying and honestly dont fully disagree with the overall risk assessment comparison. But the ADs / Medical Staff at TAMU and Utah didnt feel the risk-reward was worth it and honestly doesnt feel like Memphis gets much out of this.

Have you bothered to read the tournament safety protocols?

By the way, the tourney is sponsored by and run by, and the arena's title sponsor is, Sanford Health.

Here, let me help:

Bad Boy Mowers Crossover Classic

The Sanford Pentagon is honored to host the inaugural Bad Boy Mowers Crossover Classic. This NCAA Division I college basketball tournament runs Nov. 25-27 in Sioux Falls, S.D.

*****

COVID-19 Protocols

What safety measures will be in place to prevent COVID-19 from spreading during the tournament?

We’re committed to managing this tournament in a highly controlled environment with strict safety protocols. In consultation with our teams of infection control experts and infectious disease physicians, the following safety expectations will be in place for the tournament:

Fans and staff

* Masks are mandatory for all spectators and will be available for free at the door.

* All spectators will also undergo a wrist-based temperature check prior to entry.

* Social distancing will be required and maintained through limited seating and capacity.

* Fans will get to their seats from the second level and will not be allowed on the lower level (except to enter the facility).

Participants

* All members of each team’s traveling party must have a negative COVID-19 test within two days of traveling to Sioux Falls.

* Each member will be tested immediately upon arrival in Sioux Falls, 24 hours before their first competition and once more before the final day of play.

* All members will enter the building using a separate entrance and will only have access to the lower level of the facility.

* All members will remain in a controlled environment throughout their stay.

How are safety decisions being made?

Jeremy Cauwels, M.D., senior vice president of quality at Sanford Health, is also a member of the NCAA COVID-19 Medical Advisory Group. The committee is responsible for providing guidance to NCAA schools regarding training, practice and competition. He is leading safety planning along with a team of infectious disease experts.

How will food and beverage service be provided safely at the tournament?

The Sanford Pentagon’s concessions service will be provided by staff wearing masks and gloves. Concession cues will be marked to maintain social distance between fans. All food and beverage will be served using single-use containers and utensils.

*****

https://www.crossoverclassic.com/

Looks pretty sketchy to me.

03-lmfao Yeah, according to some in here who never bothered to look it up. It's on the front page of the tourney website.
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no fans now so this thing will be very safe.
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(11-21-2020 12:18 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 12:02 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 10:46 AM)tkgrrett Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 10:15 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(11-21-2020 10:12 AM)tkgrrett Wrote:  Throw this whole thing in the trash. With the bracket change, now likely we go through all this and dont even get a quad 1 opportunity

These guys need games to play. Already losing some OOC and no Precious to count on for 15 & 10. The rest of them were so sloppy last season, get as many in as we can

I get it. But timing and location of this thing very high risk. If a player picks up covid we potentially lose them for both Ole Miss and Auburn games and we dont get the WVa game unless both teams make the champ game.

So basically there is a substantial chance we end up losing players for our two biggest scheduled OOC games and all we are getting for that risk is guaranteed games against St Marys and some combo of Northern Iowa/Utah St/SD st and the like. Reads like a fools gamble to me.

Wtf are you talking about? The players will be on a plane, will all be in the same hotel, will all be eating at the same places and will be on a basketball court with no fans around them.

Quote:there is a substantial chance we end up losing players for our two biggest scheduled OOC games

Source? Ouija Board? The Easter Bunny? Santa Claus? The Tooth Fairy?

You are kidding right? Creighton literally just shut down basketball activities a couple days ago.

What if those individuals contracted the virus a week later and didnt show a testable viral response until the tourney.

What if one of the other teams or groups involved in organizaing the event has an individual contract the virus slightly before the tourney and dont show an immediate viral response?

Now obviously there is no way to reduce the chance to zero but a tournament vastly increases the number of variables withmany more teams and people involved vs a normal game.

Your argument seems to be shifting from a "So Dakota hotspot" position, to a "multiple teams increases variables" position. So it is a bit hard to see what you're arguing.

Tourney protocol involves testing and very limited contact. Throw the state numbers out the window. So Dakota is irrelevant.

If they didn't play this, they'd need to find replacement games, and then you'd have buy-teams coming in here, without any quarantines or gameday testing. This is as safe a place as any basketball game can be today.

I suspect most of the withdrawals have to do with trip return quarantines being administered by states or universities - just due to technicalities, totally ignoring protocols.
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Wichita State positive tests upon arrival in SD. Yikes.
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(11-23-2020 08:53 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  Wichita State positive tests upon arrival in SD. Yikes.

VCU took their place ...03-lmfao
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From West Virginia News

"Wichita State is the sixth team to withdraw from the event, joining Creighton, Texas A&M, Dayton, Ohio State and Utah.

VCU was scheduled to play in the Volunteer Classic later this week, but that event was canceled entirely after multiple positive COVID-19 tests inside the Tennessee basketball program. The Rams finished 18-13 last season, 8-10 in the Atlantic 10 conference. Their top returner is sophomore guard Nah’Shon Hyland, who averaged 9.0 points per game last season. VCU joins WVU’s side of the tournament bracket, meaning the Rams and Mountaineers could meet in the second round Thursday.

The Sanford Pentagon announced Monday that no spectators will be permitted inside for the tournament.

WVU’s first-round opponent is scheduled to be South Dakota State. The Mountaineers and Jackrabbits will start at 7 p.m. EST. The game will be broadcast on ESPN2."
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If more teams drop out, we'll play a team twice if we have to.
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(11-24-2020 12:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If more teams drop out, we'll play a team twice if we have to.

We may even have to play an intra-squad scrimmage in prime time on espn.
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(11-24-2020 12:57 PM)southpaw1 Wrote:  
(11-24-2020 12:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If more teams drop out, we'll play a team twice if we have to.

We may even have to play an intra-squad scrimmage in prime time on espn.

You've heard of Coaches vs. Cancer... This is Coaches vs. Players!
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(11-24-2020 12:57 PM)southpaw1 Wrote:  
(11-24-2020 12:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If more teams drop out, we'll play a team twice if we have to.

We may even have to play an intra-squad scrimmage in prime time on espn.

30-0 and 1 seed for the tournament here we come! I like it!
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