(11-20-2020 06:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

Judging by the look on her face even the dead chick is creeped out by him.

I think there were a lot of people who let their visceral hatred of Donald Trump drive them to vote for a senile political hack and a vengeful communist. Donald Trump said things that they hated. These new folks are going to do things that they will hate. I just hope that the republicans win the Georgia races and Milquetoast Mitch figures out how to lead and keep them in line. If republicans win both Georgia seats, I'd be perfectly happy with every single thing that Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and Schumer want going down 52-48 in the senate. If republicans lose those races, then everything needs to go 50-50 with Harris having to break the tie.

I hope republicans are exactly as cooperative with this administration as democrats were with Trump. I didn't like Trump. He may have been the only republican who could beat Hillary, but he may also be the only republican who could lose in 2020. I just hope Mitch can grow a pair and become the kind of leader like Pelosi and Schumer, who can get a party line vote on ACB. But I'm not sure Mitch can lead a sex addict to a whorehouse.

(11-21-2020 01:34 AM)banker Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 01:22 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  Occam’s razor

Correct. It is much simpler to buy voter fraud than to explain away all those other factors. It’s easier and simpler than trying to believe that basement Joe inspired the highest voter turnout in a century with 22’million more people voting than just 4’years ago.

400,000 of them hated Trump so bad that they didn’t even take the time to mark a single down ballot candidate. Yeah, Ocam’s razor.....

(11-21-2020 07:23 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  So everyone who thinks the votes were switched, or the Dems cheated somehow, I want you to do one simple thing. Take a look at the voting results from your own county and tell me if anything looks weird about them.

Here is my county

358K votes for President - 54.5 percent for Biden, 44 percent for Trump (not a surprise, our county was one of the few who voted blue in 2016 as well, going 51 to 45 for Clinton).

347K votes for Senate - 51.5 for Hegar (Dem candidate), 46.3 for Cornyn -- so Cornyn out-performs Trump and there were 11K less votes, which doesn't seem unreasonable to me. The last time there was both a presidential and senate race on the same ballot was 2008 and Cornyn barely won the county then and there were about 3K less Senate votes than Presidential votes. But our county's growth has been significant since then and 2020 had almost twice as many total votes as 2008.

The local House race of note (Nehls vs Kulkarni) was one of those House races Dems had been targeting nationally to flip. That didn't happen - Nehls won pretty easily really as Kulkarni ran a disappointing campaign in my eyes (he like Biden campaigned virtually pretty much the whole time, and there was a lot of negative TV ads talking about Kulkarni's drug use while in college). Anyway it's pointless to talk about vote total because of how the district has been gerrymanded but Nehls had 145K votes in Fort Bend County, Kulkarni had 123K. But ironically, Nehls' twin brother lost the Sheriff race to replace him (52.6 percent Dem, 47.3 percent Rep in that race). The county voted for a new black sheriff. I wonder if the Black Lives Matter had something to do with that? I find it strange that Nehls was popular enough to win a House seat, but his twin brother lost the sheriff race in a pretty significant upset.

Vote totals for other county races were almost all 339 to 342K total. 342.5 thousand people voted for Railroad Commissioner! If our county was one of those counties contributing to millions and millions of votes just for Biden and nothing else (as one poster recently claimed with zero evidence), it would have been a much bigger margin of votes for president than the down ticket races.

Dems won all the local judge races, which is noteworthy. Yet we voted for a Republican House member. And in every single race in the county that included all of the county, Trump's vote percentage was the lowest total. Every single one! It was consistently 51 to 52 percent Dem - except for President, where it was 54.5

I did the math - it takes 385 Fort Bend Counties in terms of our population to fill up the USA (320 million people). Biden had roughly 17,000 more votes than most of the Dems in my county. Multiply 17K by 385 and you get 6.5 million votes - which will probably end up being the vote difference in the 2020 election.

My conclusion - enough people just didn't like Trump to not vote for him. Maybe it was 4 years of negative ads by the media that made the difference (I think otherwise, but I'm sure many of you blame the media). That's how elections work though - our local House race was entirely decided by negative ads IMO and that's one the Republicans won.

Most counties would probably follow similar logic. But they are not looking at the whole. They are looking at specific counties were data is not flowing logically.

(11-21-2020 08:42 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 07:23 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  So everyone who thinks the votes were switched, or the Dems cheated somehow, I want you to do one simple thing. Take a look at the voting results from your own county and tell me if anything looks weird about them.

Here is my county

358K votes for President - 54.5 percent for Biden, 44 percent for Trump (not a surprise, our county was one of the few who voted blue in 2016 as well, going 51 to 45 for Clinton).

347K votes for Senate - 51.5 for Hegar (Dem candidate), 46.3 for Cornyn -- so Cornyn out-performs Trump and there were 11K less votes, which doesn't seem unreasonable to me. The last time there was both a presidential and senate race on the same ballot was 2008 and Cornyn barely won the county then and there were about 3K less Senate votes than Presidential votes. But our county's growth has been significant since then and 2020 had almost twice as many total votes as 2008.

The local House race of note (Nehls vs Kulkarni) was one of those House races Dems had been targeting nationally to flip. That didn't happen - Nehls won pretty easily really as Kulkarni ran a disappointing campaign in my eyes (he like Biden campaigned virtually pretty much the whole time, and there was a lot of negative TV ads talking about Kulkarni's drug use while in college). Anyway it's pointless to talk about vote total because of how the district has been gerrymanded but Nehls had 145K votes in Fort Bend County, Kulkarni had 123K. But ironically, Nehls' twin brother lost the Sheriff race to replace him (52.6 percent Dem, 47.3 percent Rep in that race). The county voted for a new black sheriff. I wonder if the Black Lives Matter had something to do with that? I find it strange that Nehls was popular enough to win a House seat, but his twin brother lost the sheriff race in a pretty significant upset.

Vote totals for other county races were almost all 339 to 342K total. 342.5 thousand people voted for Railroad Commissioner! If our county was one of those counties contributing to millions and millions of votes just for Biden and nothing else (as one poster recently claimed with zero evidence), it would have been a much bigger margin of votes for president than the down ticket races.

Dems won all the local judge races, which is noteworthy. Yet we voted for a Republican House member. And in every single race in the county that included all of the county, Trump's vote percentage was the lowest total. Every single one! It was consistently 51 to 52 percent Dem - except for President, where it was 54.5

I did the math - it takes 385 Fort Bend Counties in terms of our population to fill up the USA (320 million people). Biden had roughly 17,000 more votes than most of the Dems in my county. Multiply 17K by 385 and you get 6.5 million votes - which will probably end up being the vote difference in the 2020 election.

My conclusion - enough people just didn't like Trump to not vote for him. Maybe it was 4 years of negative ads by the media that made the difference (I think otherwise, but I'm sure many of you blame the media). That's how elections work though - our local House race was entirely decided by negative ads IMO and that's one the Republicans won.

Most counties would probably follow similar logic. But they are not looking at the whole. They are looking at specific counties were data is not flowing logically.

Yes. The Democrats knew they did not need a countrywide effort to swing this. Trump would get his states and Biden get his states. No need to switch those. The focus was on those 6-8 states that were purple that would decide the election and more specifically those precincts within those states that could yield what was needed.

If fraud was perpetrated the perpetrators would be counting on people pointing to those "normal" states that look typical as evidence that nothing happened.

In actuality, those states that look completely "normal" only serve to emphasize the precincts in swing states that look completely abnormal.

(11-21-2020 07:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Banker’s conclusion is just an erroneous opinion. Trump lost independents and he lost them by 14 points, while in 2016, he won them by 4. That’s an 18% delta with 1/3rd of the electorate. Biden also closed the gap with men, only losing them by 1 point. In 2016, Hillary lost them by 13 points.

In the end, this wasn’t a particularly close election.

You have never seen a swing like that among independents when dealing with an incumbent, especially with a “54% better off” number heading into Election Day.

That’s the problem with buying the results, this confluence of never happened before occurrences with each of them going in Biden’s favor. How do you square a 50% increase in minority support with an 18 point swing with independents in the opposite direction? The odds of those two very different actions occurring together are mind blowing.

Really the whole discussion is pointless. I just hope they are able to determine with certainty what happened with an explanation that satisfies the electorate. Personally, for me to get there, the statistical anomalies surrounding some swing state counties needs to be explained.

(11-21-2020 07:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Banker’s conclusion is just an erroneous opinion. Trump lost independents and he lost them by 14 points, while in 2016, he won them by 4. That’s an 18% delta with 1/3rd of the electorate. Biden also closed the gap with men, only losing them by 1 point. In 2016, Hillary lost them by 13 points.

In the end, this wasn’t a particularly close election.

No, your conclusion is just an erroneous opinion. Biden's illegal and fraudulent votes are included in your stats. Subtract those votes from Biden and add them over to Trump then see what the stats look like. Heck, just remove them from Biden and see what the stats look like. Totally different then.

(11-21-2020 02:30 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 07:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Banker’s conclusion is just an erroneous opinion. Trump lost independents and he lost them by 14 points, while in 2016, he won them by 4. That’s an 18% delta with 1/3rd of the electorate. Biden also closed the gap with men, only losing them by 1 point. In 2016, Hillary lost them by 13 points.

In the end, this wasn’t a particularly close election.

No, your conclusion is just an erroneous opinion. Biden's illegal and fraudulent votes are included in your stats. Subtract those votes from Biden and add them over to Trump then see what the stats look like. Heck, just remove them from Biden and see what the stats look like. Totally different then.

My conclusion is based entirely off of exit poll data, which is backed up by the election results.

exit polls

(11-21-2020 03:35 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  exit polls

Where do you think the statements about trump gaining black votes came from? Exit polls.

(11-21-2020 03:31 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 02:30 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 07:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Banker’s conclusion is just an erroneous opinion. Trump lost independents and he lost them by 14 points, while in 2016, he won them by 4. That’s an 18% delta with 1/3rd of the electorate. Biden also closed the gap with men, only losing them by 1 point. In 2016, Hillary lost them by 13 points.

In the end, this wasn’t a particularly close election.

No, your conclusion is just an erroneous opinion. Biden's illegal and fraudulent votes are included in your stats. Subtract those votes from Biden and add them over to Trump then see what the stats look like. Heck, just remove them from Biden and see what the stats look like. Totally different then.

My conclusion is based entirely off of exit poll data, which is backed up by the election results.

Would you point out one instance where exit polls were actually accurate? They are notorious for being slanted democrat. Which actually fits this cheating narrative perfectly.

Sydney Powell lmao. She's a clown. If anyone fails to recognize it, then you're part of the circus.

What percentage of Trump supporters have multiple monthly tabloid subscriptions and believe WWF/WWE is real? Easiest bait ever.

(11-21-2020 12:06 AM)shere khan Wrote:  



Bwahahahaha

Figure it out loons

Gurgle, gurgle...

Is that real?

Alito now in charge of the district he already demanded follow his edict and they clearly and blatantly didn’t?

Ruh roh, Scooby!



Lol

(11-22-2020 04:16 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  Sydney Powell lmao. She's a clown. If anyone fails to recognize it, then you're part of the circus.

What percentage of Trump supporters have multiple monthly tabloid subscriptions and believe WWF/WWE is real? Easiest bait ever.

Very informative post there. A lot of eye opening facts. You’re a moron.

(11-20-2020 06:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  She will get disbarred since they brought no proof. We are now seeing a coup by the Trump's team. Biden won fair and square. Just move on. Many Republican leaders in all the states said Biden won without cheating.

4 solid years of Russia, Russia, Russia interference and now its "fair and square", "just move on" instantaneously.

America has to be better than this.

For 4 years, the left used a dubious then proven fraud now dossier with no physical supporting evidence as all they needed to go after a sitting president...that they didn't like.
Now with sworn affidavits and statistical anomalies, it's hand-wringing, calls for unity, and moving aside.

If this election is totally on the up and up, let the legal challenges play out and Biden will get his inauguration.
If this election isnt totally on the up and up, every single American should want the fraud exposed and the perps walked.

(11-22-2020 04:16 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  Sydney Powell lmao. She's a clown. If anyone fails to recognize it, then you're part of the circus.

What percentage of Trump supporters have multiple monthly tabloid subscriptions and believe WWF/WWE is real? Easiest bait ever.

Typical stupid, BS, Liberal post. Only thing you left out is how it's time to come together, how we should all accept that Biden won - yeah, like Liberals did for the past 4 years. If it wasn't for Double Standards, Liberals wouldn't have any standards at all.

(11-22-2020 04:16 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  Sydney Powell lmao. She's a clown. If anyone fails to recognize it, then you're part of the circus.

What percentage of Trump supporters have multiple monthly tabloid subscriptions and believe WWF/WWE is real? Easiest bait ever.

Not nearly as easy as all the people who read NYT and CNN. Those people have been lied to 100 times in the last 4 years and keep coming back for more.

(11-22-2020 06:33 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 12:06 AM)shere khan Wrote:  



Bwahahahaha

Figure it out loons

Gurgle, gurgle...

Is that real?

Alito now in charge of the district he already demanded follow his edict and they clearly and blatantly didn’t?

Ruh roh, Scooby!



Lol

Some official references: https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/cour...r_8o6a.pdf

https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/circu...ments.aspx

It seems right...

(11-21-2020 12:27 AM)450bench Wrote:  The libs are coming out of the woodwork...

Most have been too busy laughing at the dummies to post. The trump error was over two months after it started. Believe me.