(11-20-2020 11:36 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote: (11-20-2020 10:50 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (11-20-2020 10:42 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote: Listened to her for 20 minutes on some podcast. Sounds like nonsense. She believes there is a 17 million vote swing. She believes Trump should have roughly 80 million votes and Biden should have roughly 70 million.
Regarding the "server raid" in a foreign country: she said it was gossip she heard "through the grapevine" which to me sounds like stuff she read on twitter...which I know she did. Yet here she is repeatedly saying she won't say anything she can't prove, but she can't even prove this happened. She has no problems retweeting it.
She refers to part of the information she has received as "internet information"....again, twitter.
If Dominion systems actually had that much of an impact on the election in the way that she claims they would easily be able to audit the machines and compare it to physical ballots. She claims that for every vote cast, Trump is only receiving something like 0.75 votes and Biden is getting 1.25.
If the physical tallies match the machines, then obviously that would be impossible outside of a widespread conspiracy across many, many counties and precincts to throw away physical Trump ballots and manufacture more physical Biden ballots. That's a freaking longshot right there.
Let mes ask you a couple things....
if they prove wide spread fraud would you believe it? Or just move the goal post to well they proved it but it was only a million so she lied?
Of course I would, but making outrageous claims makes someone lose their credibility, especially if this Dominion Voting Systems claim turns out to be complete nonsense. Seems like they're all in on it and what theyre claiming could very easily be proven false.
If they can't prove it, will you believe Biden won the election and Trump just lost? Right now she just sounds like a retired guy on Facebook retweeting Infowars articles
Either way I will accept who is the President on Jan 20th on. I really dont put much effort into believing or disbelieving what this woman claims. Do I believe there was wide spread voter fraud. Yes, even if its not proven. Once the democrats fought, and won, for mess mailing ballots the fraud started well before the election. Proving it is a lot harder but I have no doubt in my mind mail in ballots were bought (gift cards, 20 dollars cash, mass harvest, or like the good old days of getting a pint of whisky by a runner, before you went in to vote)....
Like I said there's no doubt in my mind this took place and Former VP Biden was the beneficiary of it. Some of it can be proven...some people are dumb enough to put it on facebook.
Large enough scale to change the outcome? I dont see how it can be proven. But only someone that puts party over all else would say this didnt happen. I'm not that person. I'm not even a republican, I'm a walkaway democrat that thought President Trump ran on and was doing a damn good job of being the type of Presidents democrats use to love.
As for talk of voting software and pollworker/counter masses fraud I'm going to wait and see the outcome...enough smoke and seeing 700,000 vote lead disappear in the early morning hours in two or 3 states...two that was supposedly shutdown counting. Makes me believe this is one election to believe its possible.
But if not proven Biden will become the next President and a good part of my voting life I lived through and accepted Presidents I did not vote for...republicans and democrats.
What I dont understand is people getting so upset with following the election laws of this country. The President or his team has every right to do just as they are doing. Its up to them to prove what they are saying. Why are people so hell bent on stopping something that the laws of this country allow?
If they dont prove it Biden is our next President. But no matter how far the President's team is off on what they say...if they prove enough votes were switched and the court upholds it and that equal 270. It doesnt matter if its 170,000 or 70 million.
No matter the outcome I know without a doubt fraud took place but also willing to live with it if it cant be proven. That is the way it should be but I doubt if those supporting Biden will do the same if the President can prove he was really the winning by legal votes