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According to the current Massey ratings. The Sunbelt is better than CUSA.

However, on the field, CUSA is 5-4 vs the Sunbelt.

It's not a dramatic difference.

The teams at the top of our conferences are really the most accurate measure of strength. By combining the Massey composite, you simply give more weight to the median, and not the top.
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Fun with numbers! Massey ratings as of week 12.

CUSA 92.85
17 Marshall
46 FAU
68 UAB
83 La Tech
95 UTSA
101 Charlotte
104 WKU
106 UNT
109 Rice
113 MTSU
119 UTEP
122 Southern Miss
124 FIU

Sunbelt 79.3
19 Coastal Carolina
27 Louisiana
35 App State
72 Ga Southern
91 Ga State
97 Troy
103 Arkansas State
108 South Alabama
114 Texas State
127 ULM
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Finally, forming a best 11...

17 Marshall
19 Coastal Carolina
27 Louisiana
35 App State
46 FAU
68 UAB
72 Ga Southern
83 La Tech
91 Ga State
95 UTSA
97 Troy

Average = 59.10

How would that compare to the AAC?
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AAC

5 Cincinnati
28 Tulsa
29 UCF
30 SMU
45 Memphis
58 Houston
66 Tulane
90 Navy
105 ECU
118 Temple
120 South Florida

Average = 63.10
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Do you see what I'm saying about giving more weight to the worst teams in a conference?

Just some fun with numbers, also proves a couple points I've been making for a long time. Getting a best of the rest conference going makes a lot of sense.
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RE: Article: "What's the ceiling for Cincinnati, BYU, Marshall, Coastal and Liber...
(11-25-2020 01:37 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Finally, forming a best 11...

17 Marshall
19 Coastal Carolina
27 Louisiana
35 App State
46 FAU
68 UAB
72 Ga Southern
83 La Tech
91 Ga State
95 UTSA
97 Troy

Average = 59.10

How would that compare to the AAC?
That is a SALTY football conference!
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(11-25-2020 01:37 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Finally, forming a best 11...

17 Marshall
19 Coastal Carolina
27 Louisiana
35 App State
46 FAU
68 UAB
72 Ga Southern
83 La Tech
91 Ga State
95 UTSA
97 Troy

Average = 59.10

How would that compare to the AAC?

****... email this to all the AD's at these schools 02-13-banana
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Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Florida Atlantic
Georgia Southern
Liberty
Marshall

Arkansas State
Georgia State
Louisiana Tech
Troy
UAB
ULL

Georgia State out of place, but all in all...
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(11-25-2020 03:16 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  
(11-25-2020 01:37 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Finally, forming a best 11...

17 Marshall
19 Coastal Carolina
27 Louisiana
35 App State
46 FAU
68 UAB
72 Ga Southern
83 La Tech
91 Ga State
95 UTSA
97 Troy

Average = 59.10

How would that compare to the AAC?
That is a SALTY football conference!

Not a knock, but UTSA a wouldn’t join this I don’t think, and they’re not needed. Give me Charlotte.
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(11-25-2020 07:33 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(11-25-2020 03:16 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  
(11-25-2020 01:37 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Finally, forming a best 11...

17 Marshall
19 Coastal Carolina
27 Louisiana
35 App State
46 FAU
68 UAB
72 Ga Southern
83 La Tech
91 Ga State
95 UTSA
97 Troy

Average = 59.10

How would that compare to the AAC?
That is a SALTY football conference!

Not a knock, but UTSA a wouldn’t join this I don’t think, and they’re not needed. Give me Charlotte.

Yeah, I'm not saying that would be the conference, I'm just saying if we grouped our top 11 it would be competitive with the American.

I think you could leave about three teams off of that list, pick up another four, and it would still be a very solid conference.
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RE: Article: "What's the ceiling for Cincinnati, BYU, Marshall, Coastal and Liber...
(11-25-2020 01:37 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Finally, forming a best 11...

17 Marshall
19 Coastal Carolina
27 Louisiana
35 App State
46 FAU
68 UAB
72 Ga Southern
83 La Tech
91 Ga State
95 UTSA
97 Troy

Average = 59.10

How would that compare to the AAC?

I would add Charlotte to the Mix, it's s sleeping Giant will likely become the largest university in NC soon AND there's lot's of money backing this program. If you add the financial backing and the Charlotte Metro is loaded with D1 football talent it's a long term strategy to have them in conference.
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(11-20-2020 12:21 AM)Ourland Wrote:  It's great that the small conferences and BYU are so we'll represented in the top 25 this season. It's proves that we belong. Way to go Thundering Herd!

I dont think this year is the year to determine that all things considering. Even the champion from this year will have an asterisk.
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There will not be an asterisk for anything, whoever wins conference championships or national championships will have a well-deserved reward. Why slight those who are putting themselves on the line through all of this craziness?

If Marshall wins the conference championship, and goes undefeated there will be no asterix.
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(11-26-2020 11:51 AM)rileylives Wrote:  There will not be an asterisk for anything, whoever wins conference championships or national championships will have a well-deserved reward. Why slight those who are putting themselves on the line through all of this craziness?

If Marshall wins the conference championship, and goes undefeated there will be no asterix.
Agreed! In fact there should be a + symbol or something because of all the added bs all teams went through!
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(11-25-2020 08:23 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(11-25-2020 01:37 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Finally, forming a best 11...

17 Marshall
19 Coastal Carolina
27 Louisiana
35 App State
46 FAU
68 UAB
72 Ga Southern
83 La Tech
91 Ga State
95 UTSA
97 Troy

Average = 59.10

How would that compare to the AAC?

I would add Charlotte to the Mix, it's s sleeping Giant will likely become the largest university in NC soon AND there's lot's of money backing this program. If you add the financial backing and the Charlotte Metro is loaded with D1 football talent it's a long term strategy to have them in conference.


I’ll believe it when I see it.
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App would likely have been ranked preseason regardless of Covid-19 as team who weren’t even playing were ranked (see USC). Therefore, we would’ve been ranked regardless.
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