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Geez some guys just can let Carey go 03-lmfao

Ya know the same excuses you are making for the beloved Hammock,
people can use those exact same excuses for Carey.

I mean Hammock gets 4-5 years from some folks, so that means all
coaches should get 4-5 years...01-wingedeagle

Geez let it go....
11-22-2020 08:44 PM
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(11-22-2020 08:44 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  Geez some guys just can let Carey go 03-lmfao

Ya know the same excuses you are making for the beloved Hammock,
people can use those exact same excuses for Carey.

I mean Hammock gets 4-5 years from some folks, so that means all
coaches should get 4-5 years...01-wingedeagle

Geez let it go....

I mean Carey kinda sucks though...and a lot of people were laughing when Temple “stole” rod.

Let’s be honest Rod’s main issues are people don’t like his personality, his offense stinks, and he is a poor recruiter. If you ignore those he’s fine.

Good hire Temple.
11-22-2020 09:42 PM
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Dave Doeren is 6-3, conference 5-3.
Annual base salary $3.25 Million.
His high watermark was 2011-12 where he won two MACC.

Rod Carey was 52-30, two MACC 2014,2018 and 4 MAC west Division titles 13,14,15,18 in 6 years.
Interms of $ value, Carey got Great results!
At Temple he is having a very bad current year, however he proved at NIU that he could bounce back and win a conference title!

We need to give our new coach Thomas Hammock 3-4 years to get results.
This year is a throw away building year!
We want to believe that he can turn his passion and recruiting into a winning record!

First year 5-7,conference 4-4
Second year - an investment. Hopefully he will build confidence.
Third year- A winning record.
Fourth year ... expecting a MAC West title.

I want to look forward to another successful NIU FB coaching career!
11-27-2020 04:07 PM
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(11-22-2020 09:42 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  
(11-22-2020 08:44 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  Geez some guys just can let Carey go 03-lmfao

Ya know the same excuses you are making for the beloved Hammock,
people can use those exact same excuses for Carey.

I mean Hammock gets 4-5 years from some folks, so that means all
coaches should get 4-5 years...01-wingedeagle

Geez let it go....

I mean Carey kinda sucks though...and a lot of people were laughing when Temple “stole” rod.

Let’s be honest Rod’s main issues are people don’t like his personality, his offense stinks, and he is a poor recruiter. If you ignore those he’s fine.

Good hire Temple.

Ok I'll be honest.
I do not care if Rod wins all his games or loses all his games.
Ya know why, I am not a Temple fan.
I'm sure Rod is laughing all the way to the bank.
Personality? Football coaches like Saban, Meyer, Belicheck no one cares about these
guys lack of personality. People care about winning. It is like Dennis Rodman.
Everybody hates him until he is on your team, helping you win titles.
Poor Recruiter? Well since he won with these poor recruits,
that might be why others could make an argument about his ability to coach.
I don't care. Just let it go and let him go.

I am an NIU fan and disagree with many of Hammocks decisions.
But you know what, he gets paid to make the decisions. He does
not answer to me. Maybe his boss knows why he blew up the team
and even what kind of offense he intends to run? Whether his qb is going to
be dual threat or pro style? He supposedly recruits better, but can't win?
The list of questions seem endless. I know, It's only been 2 years.
Hey he has what, 3 or 4 more years to figure things out. I know. We are not
suppose to question things because he is an alum and a nice guy.
I am a nice guy too. Please no comments.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.
Better Luck next year.
12-13-2020 12:25 AM
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(11-27-2020 04:07 PM)Huskiepower2003 Wrote:  Dave Doeren is 6-3, conference 5-3.
Annual base salary $3.25 Million.
His high watermark was 2011-12 where he won two MACC.

Rod Carey was 52-30, two MACC 2014,2018 and 4 MAC west Division titles 13,14,15,18 in 6 years.
Interms of $ value, Carey got Great results!
At Temple he is having a very bad current year, however he proved at NIU that he could bounce back and win a conference title!

We need to give our new coach Thomas Hammock 3-4 years to get results.
This year is a throw away building year!
We want to believe that he can turn his passion and recruiting into a winning record!

First year 5-7,conference 4-4
Second year - an investment. Hopefully he will build confidence.
Third year- A winning record.
Fourth year ... expecting a MAC West title.

I want to look forward to another successful NIU FB coaching career!

Very fair. I like what you're saying.
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(11-22-2020 07:36 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Their only two wins in the last 10 games are a bad UConn team last season and a 3-point win over the worst AAC team (USF) this season.

Our only win this season was.... we were 0-6. But not Hammock's fault - only his 2nd year. But he is a "proven" great recruiter - give him another 5 years. In the mean time you get to blame Carey for NIU's current 0-6 season and Temple's current 1-6 season.

The delusional life is good.
12-13-2020 11:28 AM
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(12-13-2020 11:28 AM)El Duderino Wrote:  
(11-22-2020 07:36 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Their only two wins in the last 10 games are a bad UConn team last season and a 3-point win over the worst AAC team (USF) this season.

Our only win this season was.... we were 0-6. But not Hammock's fault - only his 2nd year. But he is a "proven" great recruiter - give him another 5 years. In the mean time you get to blame Carey for NIU's current 0-6 season and Temple's current 1-6 season.

The delusional life is good.

Both coaches are to blame for their current results. Only issue being Rod’s roster is in much worse condition than our roster full of kids.

Rod has a real tough rebuild ahead of him. He doesn’t recruit well enough to rebuild. I think that’s going to be the major difference.
12-13-2020 01:23 PM
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(12-13-2020 01:23 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 11:28 AM)El Duderino Wrote:  
(11-22-2020 07:36 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Their only two wins in the last 10 games are a bad UConn team last season and a 3-point win over the worst AAC team (USF) this season.

Our only win this season was.... we were 0-6. But not Hammock's fault - only his 2nd year. But he is a "proven" great recruiter - give him another 5 years. In the mean time you get to blame Carey for NIU's current 0-6 season and Temple's current 1-6 season.

The delusional life is good.

Both coaches are to blame for their current results. Only issue being Rod’s roster is in much worse condition than our roster full of kids.

Rod has a real tough rebuild ahead of him. He doesn’t recruit well enough to rebuild. I think that’s going to be the major difference.

Rod has little Lynch....that's all you need
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(12-13-2020 02:46 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 01:23 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 11:28 AM)El Duderino Wrote:  
(11-22-2020 07:36 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Their only two wins in the last 10 games are a bad UConn team last season and a 3-point win over the worst AAC team (USF) this season.

Our only win this season was.... we were 0-6. But not Hammock's fault - only his 2nd year. But he is a "proven" great recruiter - give him another 5 years. In the mean time you get to blame Carey for NIU's current 0-6 season and Temple's current 1-6 season.

The delusional life is good.

Both coaches are to blame for their current results. Only issue being Rod’s roster is in much worse condition than our roster full of kids.

Rod has a real tough rebuild ahead of him. He doesn’t recruit well enough to rebuild. I think that’s going to be the major difference.

Rod has little Lynch....that's all you need

Who knows if Justin Lynch will be anywhere near JL?

It sounds like there are serious issues at Temple that even a special Justin Lynch can't fix. They are talking there about Carey completely lacking charisma with players and it being as clear as the nose on Jimmy Durante's face that the players DO NOT like Carey. https://templefootballforever.wordpress.com/

Even if Justin Lynch turns out to be anywhere near JL it sounds like Temple football is in big-time trouble and it is all being laid at Carey's feet. I'm a bit surprised by that. Carey had his trouble with players in the beginning of his tenure here, but I thought that improved. Whatever the case here, at least according to the articles at that site Carey has lost the locker room at Temple.
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(12-13-2020 05:30 PM)NILAW Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 02:46 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 01:23 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 11:28 AM)El Duderino Wrote:  
(11-22-2020 07:36 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Their only two wins in the last 10 games are a bad UConn team last season and a 3-point win over the worst AAC team (USF) this season.

Our only win this season was.... we were 0-6. But not Hammock's fault - only his 2nd year. But he is a "proven" great recruiter - give him another 5 years. In the mean time you get to blame Carey for NIU's current 0-6 season and Temple's current 1-6 season.

The delusional life is good.

Both coaches are to blame for their current results. Only issue being Rod’s roster is in much worse condition than our roster full of kids.

Rod has a real tough rebuild ahead of him. He doesn’t recruit well enough to rebuild. I think that’s going to be the major difference.

Rod has little Lynch....that's all you need

Who knows if Justin Lynch will be anywhere near JL?

It sounds like there are serious issues at Temple that even a special Justin Lynch can't fix. They are talking there about Carey completely lacking charisma with players and it being as clear as the nose on Jimmy Durante's face that the players DO NOT like Carey. https://templefootballforever.wordpress.com/

Even if Justin Lynch turns out to be anywhere near JL it sounds like Temple football is in big-time trouble and it is all being laid at Carey's feet. I'm a bit surprised by that. Carey had his trouble with players in the beginning of his tenure here, but I thought that improved. Whatever the case here, at least according to the articles at that site Carey has lost the locker room at Temple.

I don’t chime in much on the Carey thing except I think it was time to move on, but I think everyone can tell he isn’t a people person. That’ll work in the NFL and the big time P5 programs but not in college at the G5
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(12-13-2020 05:30 PM)NILAW Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 02:46 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 01:23 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 11:28 AM)El Duderino Wrote:  
(11-22-2020 07:36 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Their only two wins in the last 10 games are a bad UConn team last season and a 3-point win over the worst AAC team (USF) this season.

Our only win this season was.... we were 0-6. But not Hammock's fault - only his 2nd year. But he is a "proven" great recruiter - give him another 5 years. In the mean time you get to blame Carey for NIU's current 0-6 season and Temple's current 1-6 season.

The delusional life is good.

Both coaches are to blame for their current results. Only issue being Rod’s roster is in much worse condition than our roster full of kids.

Rod has a real tough rebuild ahead of him. He doesn’t recruit well enough to rebuild. I think that’s going to be the major difference.

Rod has little Lynch....that's all you need

Who knows if Justin Lynch will be anywhere near JL?

It sounds like there are serious issues at Temple that even a special Justin Lynch can't fix. They are talking there about Carey completely lacking charisma with players and it being as clear as the nose on Jimmy Durante's face that the players DO NOT like Carey. https://templefootballforever.wordpress.com/

Even if Justin Lynch turns out to be anywhere near JL it sounds like Temple football is in big-time trouble and it is all being laid at Carey's feet. I'm a bit surprised by that. Carey had his trouble with players in the beginning of his tenure here, but I thought that improved. Whatever the case here, at least according to the articles at that site Carey has lost the locker room at Temple.

Couldn’t it be said that Carey is just “getting HIS guys” and needs 3 or 4 years? I’m sure when he was hired he discussed his RPO offense.
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(12-13-2020 06:19 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 05:30 PM)NILAW Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 02:46 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 01:23 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  
(12-13-2020 11:28 AM)El Duderino Wrote:  Our only win this season was.... we were 0-6. But not Hammock's fault - only his 2nd year. But he is a "proven" great recruiter - give him another 5 years. In the mean time you get to blame Carey for NIU's current 0-6 season and Temple's current 1-6 season.

The delusional life is good.

Both coaches are to blame for their current results. Only issue being Rod’s roster is in much worse condition than our roster full of kids.

Rod has a real tough rebuild ahead of him. He doesn’t recruit well enough to rebuild. I think that’s going to be the major difference.

Rod has little Lynch....that's all you need

Who knows if Justin Lynch will be anywhere near JL?

It sounds like there are serious issues at Temple that even a special Justin Lynch can't fix. They are talking there about Carey completely lacking charisma with players and it being as clear as the nose on Jimmy Durante's face that the players DO NOT like Carey. https://templefootballforever.wordpress.com/

Even if Justin Lynch turns out to be anywhere near JL it sounds like Temple football is in big-time trouble and it is all being laid at Carey's feet. I'm a bit surprised by that. Carey had his trouble with players in the beginning of his tenure here, but I thought that improved. Whatever the case here, at least according to the articles at that site Carey has lost the locker room at Temple.

Couldn’t it be said that Carey is just “getting HIS guys” and needs 3 or 4 years? I’m sure when he was hired he discussed his RPO offense.

If you watched temple football the previous years you could argue the roster was pre built for Rod. They fit his system. For whatever reason, hubris, rod didn’t think those guys were as good as his guys are going to be...even though they are literally perfect fits for his system.

Again, Rod likes Rod...but being that way leads you to some dumb decisions.
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