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RE: Significant News Out of Michigan - Wayne County
(11-17-2020 09:12 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:02 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The southern part of this lovely state is a dumpster fire.

Quote: The Detroit News observed: “In August, 72% of Detroit’s poll books were found to be out of balance, a condition that precluded them from being used if a recount were requested.”

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Quote:The mismatches varied anywhere from one to more than four votes.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/p...324274002/

"One to more than four" isn't a good-faith reason to reject certification. I'm glad the two Republicans came to their senses.

As Solohawks posted, it's been certified.
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RE: Significant News Out of Michigan - Wayne County
The problem with some of these Republicans are saying that you if your signiture is off slightly? Your vote do not count. Does not matter if you are Democrat, Republican or Independent if you voted Democrat. Plus, Wayne County is madeup of mostly blacks.
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A cheap stunt by Trump's acolytes, that predictably failed.
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(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Authoritarian prog filth don't mind cheating but fear an honest recount. Does this surprise anyone.

But. Muh Russia.

What kind of an amoral dimwit do you have to be to rationalize being a Democrat.

Loons.

What's even more astonishing is the are willing to burn the constitution for Bejing Biden*

They all must be nerds that got their asses kicked once a week growing up.
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RE: Significant News Out of Michigan - Wayne County
(11-17-2020 10:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Authoritarian prog filth don't mind cheating but fear an honest recount. Does this surprise anyone.

But. Muh Russia.

What kind of an amoral dimwit do you have to be to rationalize being a Democrat.

Loons.

What's even more astonishing is the are willing to burn the constitution for Bejing Biden*

They all must be nerds that got their asses kicked once a week growing up.

They were never taught morality.

They never learned wrong from right.

They were never disciplined at home or corrected at school.

Cheating was overlooked.

They worship money and self and the only thing they fear are authority figures.

Dems let you riot, loot, and burn. Republicans don't.

Dems tell you try both sexes. Republicans won't.

Dems tell you to abort your mistakes. Republicans call that murder.

Dems tell them there is no God. Republicans tell them there is a Hell.

There's no point in trying to reach them. Their consciences have been seared and they love evil and despise good.

So cheating, lying, stealing, whatever it takes to win is in their domain. Laws are not!

It really is just that simple. But what mystifies me is the number of Republican parents that allow them to educate their children. There's the disconnect that is killing us.
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RE: Significant News Out of Michigan - Wayne County
(11-17-2020 10:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Authoritarian prog filth don't mind cheating but fear an honest recount. Does this surprise anyone.

But. Muh Russia.

What kind of an amoral dimwit do you have to be to rationalize being a Democrat.

Loons.

What's even more astonishing is the are willing to burn the constitution for Bejing Biden*

They all must be nerds that got their asses kicked once a week growing up.

No problems with an honest recount. I’m not sure Trump can write the check for one. Definitely needs to pay up front, no credit.

I’ve got a problem with playing politics to steal the electoral votes of MI disenfranchising the majority of their voters.

I wouldn’t talk about the constitution until you read some of the amendments since you keep trying to throw out the 15th.
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RE: Significant News Out of Michigan - Wayne County
(11-17-2020 11:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 10:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Authoritarian prog filth don't mind cheating but fear an honest recount. Does this surprise anyone.

But. Muh Russia.

What kind of an amoral dimwit do you have to be to rationalize being a Democrat.

Loons.

What's even more astonishing is the are willing to burn the constitution for Bejing Biden*

They all must be nerds that got their asses kicked once a week growing up.

They were never taught morality.

They never learned wrong from right.

They were never disciplined at home or corrected at school.

Cheating was overlooked.

They worship money and self and the only thing they fear are authority figures.

Dems let you riot, loot, and burn. Republicans don't.

Dems tell you try both sexes. Republicans won't.

Dems tell you to abort your mistakes. Republicans call that murder.

Dems tell them there is no God. Republicans tell them there is a Hell.

There's no point in trying to reach them. Their consciences have been seared and they love evil and despise good.

So cheating, lying, stealing, whatever it takes to win is in their domain. Laws are not!

It really is just that simple. But what mystifies me is the number of Republican parents that allow them to educate their children. There's the disconnect that is killing us.

Republican parents can be just as awful as Democrat parents. We live in a self absorbed culture full of narcissistic philistines.

I've said it before, we are entering a second dark age. The difference this time is willful ignorance
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RE: Significant News Out of Michigan - Wayne County
(11-17-2020 11:16 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 11:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 10:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Authoritarian prog filth don't mind cheating but fear an honest recount. Does this surprise anyone.

But. Muh Russia.

What kind of an amoral dimwit do you have to be to rationalize being a Democrat.

Loons.

What's even more astonishing is the are willing to burn the constitution for Bejing Biden*

They all must be nerds that got their asses kicked once a week growing up.

They were never taught morality.

They never learned wrong from right.

They were never disciplined at home or corrected at school.

Cheating was overlooked.

They worship money and self and the only thing they fear are authority figures.

Dems let you riot, loot, and burn. Republicans don't.

Dems tell you try both sexes. Republicans won't.

Dems tell you to abort your mistakes. Republicans call that murder.

Dems tell them there is no God. Republicans tell them there is a Hell.

There's no point in trying to reach them. Their consciences have been seared and they love evil and despise good.

So cheating, lying, stealing, whatever it takes to win is in their domain. Laws are not!

It really is just that simple. But what mystifies me is the number of Republican parents that allow them to educate their children. There's the disconnect that is killing us.

Republican parents can be just as awful as Democrat parents. We live in a self absorbed culture full of narcissistic philistines.

I've said it before, we are entering a second dark age. The difference this time is willful ignorance

When computer advancements led to held hand devices, and face to face communication became difficult, I announced a Dark Age had dawned. It has. Part of it is very willful ignorance. Part of it is deviously planned and intentionally instilled ignorance. As Gump might say, "I think maybe it's both, at the same time!"

The basic tool of communication, language, broke down. It's written form fell victim to texting abbreviations and its spoken form to a deplorable lack of coherent structure and a vast array of malaprops demonstrating that in large numbers the youth had misapplied words that merely sounded like the words they wanted to use. Stink's Idiocracy set in at that point and the educators gave the social passes and an approximation of mathematics rather than teach a generation that could not be told they were wrong the absolutes of the discipline.

Look, you and I both got correct change at fast food restaurants in the 60's. Today the register tells them the change, if they enter the amount paid correctly. The breakdown is always more noticeable at the lowest rungs. When the CEO of a credit card processing corporation told me they didn't hire A students and preferred C students the whole dynamic was set in stone for me. His reason was that C students couldn't steal effectively, and A students could, and B students were too smart to be trusted and managed. Say hello to the brave new world. I knew the guy personally and we shared a hobby so we crossed paths often enough.

I knew it was coming when they dumbed down the SAT and ACT 5 times since I took it and eliminated the essay section and the logic. Education is being used to create a permanent underclass and to retard the ability of the middle class to fight the wealthiest 5%. It's actually more intentional than not Shere!
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(11-17-2020 08:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Yes, having a sitting president start what is effectively a soft coup over Twitter is what I’m afraid of. It’s an attack on the fabric of our democratic process and a national security risk.

Not afraid of counting all the votes like most of the republicans.

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

WTH would you call the last 4 years of spying on the Trump campaign, framing Flynn, Russia Russia Russia, Mueller Report, fake impeachment, The Resistance, burning and looting protests, etc.?
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(11-17-2020 08:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Yes, having a sitting president start what is effectively a soft coup over Twitter is what I’m afraid of. It’s an attack on the fabric of our democratic process and a national security risk.

Not afraid of counting all the votes like most of the republicans.

Then why are you here all of the sudden. All we want is all allowable votes counted. That sure the fvck isn’t what you and your progressive socialist butt buddies want.
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(11-17-2020 11:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Yes, having a sitting president start what is effectively a soft coup over Twitter is what I’m afraid of. It’s an attack on the fabric of our democratic process and a national security risk.

Not afraid of counting all the votes like most of the republicans.

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

WTH would you call the last 4 years of spying on the Trump campaign, framing Flynn, Russia Russia Russia, Mueller Report, fake impeachment, The Resistance, burning and looting protests, etc.?

A real coup. Look at the bright side. The illiterate book burning...err...I mean banning filth learned a new word: coup
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RE: Significant News Out of Michigan - Wayne County
(11-17-2020 11:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Yes, having a sitting president start what is effectively a soft coup over Twitter is what I’m afraid of. It’s an attack on the fabric of our democratic process and a national security risk.

Not afraid of counting all the votes like most of the republicans.

Then why are you here all of the sudden. All we want is all allowable votes counted. That sure the fvck isn’t what you and your progressive socialist butt buddies want.

Did I disturb your echo chamber? If you can only discuss your opinion with people that agree with you it’s a good sign you are wrong. Maybe try Parler.
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RE: Significant News Out of Michigan - Wayne County
(11-17-2020 11:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.
lulz.......teh fear!
Yes, having a sitting president start what is effectively a soft coup over Twitter is what I’m afraid of. It’s an attack on the fabric of our democratic process and a national security risk.
Not afraid of counting all the votes like most of the republicans.
Then why are you here all of the sudden. All we want is all allowable votes counted. That sure the fvck isn’t what you and your progressive socialist butt buddies want.

All that should be counted, and none that shouldn't. And if there are any votes that should not be counted, then that's not "all the votes." That's just all the ones that are legal.
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(11-18-2020 12:00 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 11:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Yes, having a sitting president start what is effectively a soft coup over Twitter is what I’m afraid of. It’s an attack on the fabric of our democratic process and a national security risk.

Not afraid of counting all the votes like most of the republicans.

Then why are you here all of the sudden. All we want is all allowable votes counted. That sure the fvck isn’t what you and your progressive socialist butt buddies want.

Did I disturb your echo chamber? If you can only discuss your opinion with people that agree with you it’s a good sign you are wrong. Maybe try Parler.

How about trying to have an original thought. Now go study your hive mind Twitter talking points for a cute comeback.

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(11-17-2020 08:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Yes, having a sitting president start what is effectively a soft coup over Twitter is what I’m afraid of. It’s an attack on the fabric of our democratic process and a national security risk.

It is none of those things. Whatever happened to, "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"?
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(11-17-2020 09:37 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 09:12 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

NO!!! That started on election night when the voting machines and the count suddenly stopped in several swing states with Trump leading substantially in all of them.

So what you are saying is they should stop counting when your guy is ahead? What about AZ where trump was catching up at the end based on mail in ballots, did you want them to stop counting there too? I can’t remember since there were trump supports chanting “stop the count” and “keep counting” in different states.

Everyone knew mail in ballots in most states would be heavy for Biden after trump spent months discouraging his supporters from using mail in ballots and the demographics of believing that there is a pandemic.

I said what I said, which is not what you are trying to make it into what I said. I stayed up till at least 2 AM on election night. At the time Trump was leading in most if not every "swing state" (i.e. Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia). In some of them he had very large leads. Many of them had stopped counting, or at the very least their votes had been just trickling in at a ridiculously slow rate for the past few hours. When I woke up later that morning, huge amounts of votes had been added to those state totals and oddly enough, they seemed to all be for Biden.

As far as your "everyone knew" comment - B. S.! 100% of my extended family members (in 4 different states) voted early, and all but two of them voted Republican. It's the first time any of us had ever voted early other than the once or twice (in 40+ years) that I had to vote early/absentee because I would be overseas for work on election day. The polls are yet another "everyone knew" falsehood that was pushed by the Left. They knew squat, but pushed a narrative they wanted everyone to believe.

FYI the Trump campaign even mailed applications to my wife and I to fill out to receive an absentee ballot to mail in for early voting - without us asking for it. Guess they weren't against voting early by mail as you stated huh? A Democrat friend of mine was upset that she too got one from Trump in the mail. I know because she complained on Face Book and a few of her FB Liberal friends commented to say that they too got the same application from Trump in the mail.
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RE: Significant News Out of Michigan - Wayne County
(11-17-2020 11:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 08:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So this is the “start the steal” phase of the plan.

lulz.......teh fear!

Yes, having a sitting president start what is effectively a soft coup over Twitter is what I’m afraid of. It’s an attack on the fabric of our democratic process and a national security risk.

Not afraid of counting all the votes like most of the republicans.

Then why are you here all of the sudden. All we want is all allowable votes counted. That sure the fvck isn’t what you and your progressive socialist butt buddies want.


That is a promblem. How can you tell of a vote allowable or not? Trump's people already listed names of people who are actually who voted or not. Some people said they did not voted but are outrage that their names were on the list of supposed dead. Some said they did oted, but they are alive. Lawyers for Trump in Nevada dropped their suit because of all the names they listed said moved to other states. 1.Names of military officers were listed. 2.Spouses are listed of the officers. 3.They have a job out of state, but still lives in Nevada. 4.Working for the government, but stationed in other countries. 5.Working in another country. My uncle was a Methodist Preacher that held sermon for the church in Germany and he and my aunt could cast absentee ballots. It turned out that all the names given were people that fell in those categories.
A Georgia elderly woman who voted but is alived. Her husband is dead, but they listed her, but she signed her name as Mrs. and then her husband's name which is legal. My mom get government mail at times calling her Mrs. and my dad's name and so forth. It is allowable for the elderly since it is a tradition for married women to take on their husbands' names.
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They literally canvassed the votes out of fear with more than clear discrepancies. lol

What a joke.
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This is the problem. Once the vote is counted and included in the tally, it is extremely difficult to prove fraud. The focus should be on preventive controls that ensure that only legitimate votes get permitted and counted in the first place.
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Just to clear up some misinformation here.

Had the county board not changed their vote, it would have went to the state board of canvas, which is also split evenly along party lines, it would not have gone to the republican led legislature.

As was pointed out earlier, the discrepancies were usually less than 5 per precinct...and this is in line with pretty much all elections in the area...and likely in many parts of America.

The pathetic part here is that Livonia, which is 90% white had a higher rate of discrepancy than Detroit, which is 80% black...yet the 2 republicans were just fine with certifying the county other than Detroit.

Bottom line, yes, it's over.
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