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(12-01-2020 11:41 AM)Statefan Wrote:  We would be more than happy to swap with Purdue or Auburn.

We've already got a school from Indiana.
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(12-01-2020 11:48 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 11:41 AM)Statefan Wrote:  We would be more than happy to swap with Purdue or Auburn.

We've already got a school from Indiana. Actually South Bend might as well be Michigan.

As a disclaimer, I am not an adherent of the market model however, in any trade between P-5's the core market and the periphery matter. It matters because of how media changes advertising and viewing habits in a DMA. I think you can sell a marginal game on the periphery of the core area. Core, plus adjoining DMA's put Purdue at about 4.8 million homes, NC State at 4.2 million homes, and Auburn at 4.2 million homes.
For Purdue the two big DMA's are Chicago and Indianapolis. Of course Purdue is not the top draw. Same goes for Auburn and Atlanta and Birmingham and NC State and Raleigh and Charlotte. Actually a three way switch should make everyone some money.

NC State to the B10
Auburn to the ACC
Purdue to the SEC

The point is these are three similar cow colleges that are politically inferior to their in-state rival.

Hey, I just thought about it - the Land Grant Cow College Conference:

North:

ISU, MSU, Purdue, UK, Ohio State, Penn State, MD

South:

VT, NCSU, Clemson, Auburn, UGA, UF, MSU
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I would say Swofford’s invasion of the North was strategically successful. The OBE is dead. The ACC has now a dedicated nerwork. We have a deal with ND.

The problem, however, is that the ACC still trails other conferences in terms of revenue mainly because Swofford failed to catch two big fish in the Northeast, which are PSU and ND.

That’s why #15 and #16 have to be all about $$$. ND, Texas, or PSU fits the bill. WVU or any other G5 team doesn’t.
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(11-30-2020 04:04 PM)YouPeople Wrote:  VT is still a guest in our conference.





I kid...I kid.....kinda.

VT feels at home in the new ACC. VT has ties with almost all new members: BC, Cuse, Pitt, and Miami. VT is not a complete stranger to old members as we were in SoCon together long time ago.
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(12-01-2020 01:33 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  
(11-30-2020 04:04 PM)YouPeople Wrote:  VT is still a guest in our conference.





I kid...I kid.....kinda.

VT feels at home in the new ACC. VT has ties with almost all new members: BC, Cuse, Pitt, and Miami. VT is not a complete stranger to old members as we were in SoCon together long time ago.

VT's strongest pre-ACC ties were with teams in the Atlantic division, though. It was probably a mistake to put VT in the Coastal; had the ACC moved Maryland to the Coastal and VT to the Atlantic (with UVA/VT and Maryland/BC as crossovers), who knows - the TV contract might've been larger, and the Terps might even still be in the ACC if they played UNC and Duke along with UVA every year?
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(12-01-2020 01:20 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  I would say Swofford’s invasion of the North was strategically successful. The OBE is dead. The ACC has now a dedicated nerwork. We have a deal with ND.

The problem, however, is that the ACC still trails other conferences in terms of revenue mainly because Swofford failed to catch two big fish in the Northeast, which are PSU and ND.

That’s why #15 and #16 have to be all about $$$. ND, Texas, or PSU fits the bill. WVU or any other G5 team doesn’t.

Exactly!

In the meantime, the conference can do a number of things to maximize revenue and interest: 1) lead the charge for abolishing divisions 2) if not successful with #1, then swap VaTech for Syracuse in football divisions and 3) adjust some of the permanent basketball rivals; ND vs. Louisville should be a home/home every single season, for instance.
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(11-18-2020 05:19 PM)YouPeople Wrote:  It's no longer about what "the ACC wants" but rather what ESPN wants as they own the ACC (and SEC). WVU is much too valuable to ESPN to have the Eers relegated to the AAC as opposed to the ACC or SEC. I'll address the SEC in a second.

Here is what you need to follow in order for WVU to land in the ACC. First, ND has to stay independent til at least 2024. That is the MOST influential piece to this puzzle. If ND says they want to either stay in the ACC or come back before 2024, you can bet ND will decide who, if anyone, comes along with them. If this happens, WVU will undoubtedly be out of the running to EVER join the ACC. ND wants absolutely nothing to do with WVU for a myriad of reasons.

The reason 2024 is important is because that is when the XII will have figured out what they are going to do. For the sake of discussion, let's say ND tells the ACC they have no plans to remain full time or come back before 2024. If that happens, all eyes will be on the XII.

Right now Oklahoma hates their home in the XII and will likely try to hop out and head to the SEC along with Okie State. The SEC, also owned by ESPN, will be tickled pink at the thought of having both in their conference. That puts the SEC at 16 members where they will remain. Football in the SEC will be strengthened and you can bet ESPN will make the other 14 SEC members richer by adding the Sooners and Pokes.

Since ESPN will no longer be required to pay nothing-happening schools like Tex Tech, Kansas, K State, Iowa State etc BIG TIME money....they can instead put that money into the SEC ( and the ACC) where they will yield a higher return. You can bet an Okie State vs Auburn match up will get higher ratings than Okie State vs Iowa State. So suddenly, OU and Okie State are more valuable to ESPN simply because of who they are playing.

So what about Texas? First of all, there is no way they will entertain the idea of following Aggie and OU to the SEC. That isn't their style not to mention they view the SEC being beneath them academically. So ask yourself, what makes the most financial sense for Texas and ESPN? Given Texas is married to ESPN via The Longhorn Network (LHN), you can bet they aren't jumping to the B1G or PAC as they are in bed with FOX. That idea is DOA.

So how can Texas keep the LHN and not follow Aggie and OU? The ONLY way is to join the ACC with the same arrangement ND has today. This allows them to a) keep the LHN b) keep their other sports in an ESPN owned conference and c) toot their horns (pun intended) about being independent. So why won't they just join the ACC full time? Because they don't have to...and football independence is sexier than playing in the ACC....especially after all your neighbors ran off to the SEC.

ESPN will then place Baylor or TCU into the ACC as full time members. By doing so, ESPN gets the ACCN into Texas which is a HUGE revenue boost for ESPN and more importantly the ACC. ESPN will then have both the SECN and ACCN in The Lone Star state.

With Texas as a partial and Baylor/TCU as #15.......WVU has to land somewhere as the remnants of the XII look to land somewhere. That's why I go back to ESPN coveting WVU and making sure they land in one of their two conferences. With OU and Okie State joining the SEC, the obvious landing spot is back in their old neighborhood with Cuse, Pitt, VT and Lville. And you know what? ESPN will be able to afford making the ACC whole because the ACCN is going to get a big boost from being in Texas and getting 5 UT games vs the ACC. Just as an OU match up with LSU is more valuable than OU vs Tex Tech, a WVU vs VT game is worth more than WVU vs Kansas State. Not because WVU is any different ...but rather because of who they are playing. Regional rivalries drive interest which is why WVU's TV numbers are hurt by playing 1000 miles away from home.

In closing, if the XII kisses and makes up with each other and decides to stick together, then WVU is going to stay there. The ACC is not going to pursue WVU as long as there is a XII. If the XII blows up before 2024 and ND wants to stay independent, ESPN will find away to retain its most valuable football properties....those being Texas and OU. Okie State will go along with OU due to politics. Baylor/TCU because they will get the ACCN in the state of Texas.....and WVU because geography, value and improving ACC football.

No, that is incorrect. Both Texas and Oklahoma realize their best path to the National Playoff is within the B12.
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