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Top 25 rankings: Weeks 11, 12, & 13 UPDATE
UPDATE: (Top 25 lists for weeks 12, 13, 14 are posted lower in thread)

Projecting the Week 11 AP Top 25
SDS Staff | 22 minutes ago


1 Alabama (6-0), did not play
2 Notre Dame (8-0) def. Boston College, 45-31
3 Ohio State (3-0), did not play
4 Clemson (7-1), did not play
5 Texas A&M (5-1), did not play
6 Florida (5-1) def. Arkansas, 63-35
7 Cincinnati (7-0) def. ECU, 55-17
8 BYU (8-0), did not play
9 Miami (7-1) def. Virginia Tech, 25-24
10 Indiana (4-0) def. Michigan State, 24-0
11 Oregon (1-0) def. Washington State
12 Georgia (4-2), did not play
13 Wisconsin (1-0) leads Michigan, 42-11 4Q
14 Oklahoma State (5-1), did not play
15 Coastal Carolina (7-0), did not play
16 Marshall (7-0) def. Middle Tennessee, 42-14
17 Iowa State (5-2), did not play
18 Oklahoma (5-2), did not play
19 USC (2-0) def. Arizona, 34-30
20 Texas (5-2), did not play
21 Liberty (8-0) def. Western Carolina, 58-14
22 Northwestern (4-0) def. Purdue, 27-20
23 Auburn (4-2), did not play
24 Louisiana (7-1) def. South Alabama, 38-10
25 Tulsa (3-1) def. No. 19 SMU

According to this site, there would still be 7 non-P5 teams in the top 25.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-fo...ap-top-25/

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USA Today's projected AP top 25:

AP Poll Top 25 Projection, Rankings Prediction: Week 11
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1 Alabama (6-0), did not play
2 Notre Dame (8-0) def. Boston College, 45-31
3 Ohio State (3-0), did not play
4 Florida (5-1) def. Arkansas, 63-35
5 Clemson (7-1), did not play
6 Texas A&M (5-1), did not play
7 Cincinnati (7-0) def. ECU, 55-17
8 BYU (8-0), did not play
9 Miami (7-1) def. Virginia Tech, 25-24
10 Indiana (4-0) def. Michigan State, 24-0
11 Wisconsin (1-0) def. Michigan
12 Oregon (1-0) leads Washington State, 36-29 4Q
13 Georgia (4-2), did not play
14 Oklahoma State (5-1), did not play
15 Coastal Carolina (7-0), did not play
16 Marshall (7-0) def. Middle Tennessee, 42-14
17 Iowa State (5-2), did not play
18 Oklahoma (5-2), did not play
19 USC (2-0) def. Arizona, 34-30
20 Liberty (8-0) def. Western Carolina, 58-14
21 Northwestern (4-0) def. Purdue, 27-20
22 Texas (5-2), did not play
23 Louisiana (7-1) def. South Alabama, 38-10
24 North Carolina (6-2)
25 Auburn (4-2), did not play

https://collegefootballnews.com/2020/11/...on-week-11



Coaches Poll Top 25 Projection, Rankings Prediction: Week 11
James Snook-USA TODAY Sports

By CollegeFootballNews.com | November 14, 2020 9:58 pm

What will the 2020 Coaches Poll probably be after the Week 11 games? It’s our predicted best guess on the latest college football rankings.

This is the prediction and projection of the Coaches Poll Top 25 after Week 11 of the college football season. Again, this is a projection and not the real AP Poll.

– Contact/Follow @ColFootballNews & @PeteFiutak

Last week’s ranking in parentheses.
25. Tulsa Golden Hurricane 4-1 (NR)
24. Texas Longhorns 5-2 (24)
23. North Carolina Tar Heels 6-2 (NR)
22. Auburn Tigers 4-2 (21)
21. Northwestern Wildcats 3-0 (23)
20. Liberty Flames 8-0 (22)
19. USC Trojans 2-0 (20)
18. Oklahoma Sooners 5-2 (18)
17. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 7-0 (17)
16. Iowa State Cyclones 5-2 (16)
15. Marshall Thundering Herd 7-0 (15)
14. Oklahoma State Cowboys 5-1 (13)
13. Oregon Ducks 3-0 (13)
12. Georgia Bulldogs 4-2 (11)
11. Indiana Hoosiers 4-0 (10)
10. Miami Hurricanes 7-1 (9)
9. Wisconsin Badgers 2-0 (14)
8. BYU Cougars 7-0 (8)
7. Cincinnati Bearcats 7-0 (7)
6. Texas A&M Aggies 5-1 (6)
5. Clemson Tigers 7-1 (4)
4. Florida Gators 5-1 (5)
3. Ohio State Buckeyes 3-0 (3)
2. Notre Dame Fighting Irish 8-0 (2)
1. Alabama Crimson Tide 6-0 (1)
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RE: Week 11 Top 25: SMU out, Tulsa in (?)
It will either be Tulsa coming into the rankings or North Carolina. Honestly, Tulsa despite playing fewer games has a better resume. Both teams have two wins over top 25 (at the time) teams, but Tulsa beat #11 and #19 while NC beat #19 and #23. Tulsa's only loss came in a close game to #14 Ok. State. NC's two losses came to unranked UVA and unranked FSU.

This weak will really show us how much P5 bias there is, because there should only be one spot up for grabs.
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RE: Week 11 Top 25: SMU out, Tulsa in (?)
1 Alabama (60) 1,548 1 6-0
2 Notre Dame (1) 1,467 2 8-0
3 Ohio State (1) 1,445 3 3-0
4 Clemson 1,355 4 7-1
5 Texas A&M 1,240 5 5-1
6 Florida 1,222 6 5-1
7 Cincinnati 1,198 7 7-0
8 BYU 1,094 8 8-0
9 Indiana 997 10 4-0
10 Wisconsin 950 13 2-0
11 Oregon 949 11 2-0
12 Miami (Fla.) 940 9 7-1
13 Georgia 824 12 4-2
14 Oklahoma State 750 14 5-1
T-15 Coastal Carolina 557 15 7-0
T-15 Marshall 557 16 7-0
17 Iowa State 498 17 5-2
18 Oklahoma 497 18 5-2
19 Northwestern 378 23 4-0
20 Southern Cal 377 20 2-0
21 Liberty 307 22 8-0
22 Texas 296 21 5-2
23 Auburn 187 24 4-2
24 Louisiana 177 25 7-1
25 Tulsa 155 NR 4-1

Tulsa sneaks in the AP at #25. No change for Cincy who remains at #7.
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RE: Week 11 Top 25: SMU out, Tulsa in (?)
Tulsa and Tulane face off this Thursday on short rest, should be a good game. Tulane going for back to back wins over ranked opponents
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RE: Week 11 Top 25: SMU out, Tulsa in (?)
I hope AAC team gets the top G5 spot. It would annoy me if Marshall team UCF destroyed got top spot bc AAC is 5x tougher than CUSA/MWC/SBC.
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RE: Week 11 Top 25: SMU out, Tulsa in (?)
(11-15-2020 03:50 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  1 Alabama (60) 1,548 1 6-0
2 Notre Dame (1) 1,467 2 8-0
3 Ohio State (1) 1,445 3 3-0
4 Clemson 1,355 4 7-1
5 Texas A&M 1,240 5 5-1
6 Florida 1,222 6 5-1
7 Cincinnati 1,198 7 7-0
8 BYU 1,094 8 8-0
9 Indiana 997 10 4-0
10 Wisconsin 950 13 2-0
11 Oregon 949 11 2-0
12 Miami (Fla.) 940 9 7-1
13 Georgia 824 12 4-2
14 Oklahoma State 750 14 5-1
T-15 Coastal Carolina 557 15 7-0
T-15 Marshall 557 16 7-0
17 Iowa State 498 17 5-2
18 Oklahoma 497 18 5-2
19 Northwestern 378 23 4-0
20 Southern Cal 377 20 2-0
21 Liberty 307 22 8-0
22 Texas 296 21 5-2
23 Auburn 187 24 4-2
24 Louisiana 177 25 7-1
25 Tulsa 155 NR 4-1

Tulsa sneaks in the AP at #25. No change for Cincy who remains at #7.

The Sun Belt may be better than the MWC this year with two ranked teams and App St. near the TOP 25.
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RE: Week 11 Top 25: SMU out, Tulsa in (?)
(11-15-2020 06:25 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I hope AAC team gets the top G5 spot. It would annoy me if Marshall team UCF destroyed got top spot bc AAC is 5x tougher than CUSA/MWC/SBC.

That 2019 team also had their doors blown off by Cincinnati.

It was a mediocre 2019 Marshall team. Completely different DNA and QB. This 2020 Marshall team is quite different.

But I respect and understand your point.

I don't think you will have to worry about Marshall taking that spot. Cincinnati will have to lose twice, and that won't happen this year.

It sucks, because normally I would be rooting really hard for Cincinnati. I like their program, and if their players had Ohio State helmets on, they would be ranked #1. It's crap.
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RE: Week 11 Top 25: SMU out, Tulsa in (?)
Tulsa's only loss to a very good Oklahoma State team that is in the top 15 deserves the ranking. Whether Tulsa gets it is another story. I expect outside the Top 25, but not by much.

I need to take better attention to the first OP post. Tulsa #25. 03-thumbsup
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RE: Week 11 Top 25: SMU out, Tulsa in (?)

Week 11 AP TOP 25, including other teams receiving votes

1 Alabama (60) 1,548 1 6-0
2 Notre Dame (1) 1,467 2 8-0
3 Ohio State (1) 1,445 3 3-0
4 Clemson 1,355 4 7-1
5 Texas A&M 1,240 5 5-1
6 Florida 1,222 6 5-1
7 Cincinnati 1,198 7 7-0
8 BYU 1,094 8 8-0
9 Indiana 997 10 4-0
10 Wisconsin 950 13 2-0
11 Oregon 949 11 2-0
12 Miami (Fla.) 940 9 7-1
13 Georgia 824 12 4-2
14 Oklahoma State 750 14 5-1
15 Coastal Carolina 557 15 7-0
15 Marshall 557 16 7-0
17 Iowa State 498 17 5-2
18 Oklahoma 497 18 5-2
19 Northwestern 378 23 4-0
20 Southern Cal 377 20 2-0
21 Liberty 307 22 8-0
22 Texas 296 21 5-2
23 Auburn 187 24 4-2
24 Louisiana 177 25 7-1
25 Tulsa 155 NR 4-1
26 North Carolina
27 SMU
28 Utah
29 Washington
30 AZ State
31 Boise State
32 San Jose State
33 Appalachian State

34 Nevada
35 Iowa
36 UCF
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RE: Week 11 Top 25: SMU out, Tulsa in (?)
WEEK 11 COACHES POLL, including other teams receiving votes:

1 Alabama
2 ND
3 OSU
4 Clemson
5 Florida
6 TAMU
7 Cincinnati
8 BYU
9 Miami (FL)
10 Indiana
11 Georgia
12 Wisconsin
13 Oregon
14 Oklahoma State
15 Marshall
16 Iowa St.
17 Oklahoma
18 C. Carolina
19 USC
20 Northwestern
21 Auburn
22 Liberty
23 Texas
24 North Carolina
25 Louisiana
26 Tulsa
27 Utah
28 SMU
29 Appalachian State
30 Purdue
31 Kentucky
32 Missouri
33 Arkansas
34 Nevada
35 Army
36 Boise State
37 San Jose St.

38 BC
39 Maryland
40 Memphis
41 Tennessee
42 Washington
43 Colorado
44 K State
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RE: Week 11 Top 25
(11-16-2020 12:00 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  WEEK 11 COACHES POLL, including other teams receiving votes:

1 Alabama
2 ND
3 OSU
4 Clemson
5 Florida
6 TAMU
7 Cincinnati
8 BYU
9 Miami (FL)
10 Indiana
11 Georgia
12 Wisconsin
13 Oregon
14 Oklahoma State
15 Marshall
16 Iowa St.
17 Oklahoma
18 C. Carolina
19 USC
20 Northwestern
21 Auburn
22 Liberty
23 Texas
24 North Carolina
25 Louisiana
26 Tulsa
27 Utah
28 SMU
29 Appalachian State
30 Purdue
31 Kentucky
32 Missouri
33 Arkansas
34 Nevada
35 Army
36 Boise State
37 San Jose St.

38 BC
39 Maryland
40 Memphis
41 Tennessee
42 Washington
43 Colorado
44 K State

Interesting how UCF at 5-2 remains off this list and only one vote in the AP. I get it though, none of UCF's wins have been vs teams with pulse (save for maaaaaybe Tulane and Houston wins). I figured Tulane beating Army and now Tulsa being #25 would help UCF's strength of schedule but nope, apparently not. Would a win over #7 Cincy even get them in the Top 25 at this point? UCF went from being over-rated to under-rated very fast.
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RE: Week 11 Top 25
(11-17-2020 02:55 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  
(11-16-2020 12:00 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  WEEK 11 COACHES POLL, including other teams receiving votes:

1 Alabama
2 ND
3 OSU
4 Clemson
5 Florida
6 TAMU
7 Cincinnati
8 BYU
9 Miami (FL)
10 Indiana
11 Georgia
12 Wisconsin
13 Oregon
14 Oklahoma State
15 Marshall
16 Iowa St.
17 Oklahoma
18 C. Carolina
19 USC
20 Northwestern
21 Auburn
22 Liberty
23 Texas
24 North Carolina
25 Louisiana
26 Tulsa
27 Utah
28 SMU
29 Appalachian State
30 Purdue
31 Kentucky
32 Missouri
33 Arkansas
34 Nevada
35 Army
36 Boise State
37 San Jose St.

38 BC
39 Maryland
40 Memphis
41 Tennessee
42 Washington
43 Colorado
44 K State

Interesting how UCF at 5-2 remains off this list and only one vote in the AP. I get it though, none of UCF's wins have been vs teams with pulse (save for maaaaaybe Tulane and Houston wins). I figured Tulane beating Army and now Tulsa being #25 would help UCF's strength of schedule but nope, apparently not. Would a win over #7 Cincy even get them in the Top 25 at this point? UCF went from being over-rated to under-rated very fast.

The whole Big12 is vastly overrated this year. I don't see a big difference between UCF's record at 5-2 and ISU at 5-2.
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RE: Week 11 Top 25
(11-17-2020 04:38 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 02:55 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  
(11-16-2020 12:00 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  WEEK 11 COACHES POLL, including other teams receiving votes:

1 Alabama
2 ND
3 OSU
4 Clemson
5 Florida
6 TAMU
7 Cincinnati
8 BYU
9 Miami (FL)
10 Indiana
11 Georgia
12 Wisconsin
13 Oregon
14 Oklahoma State
15 Marshall
16 Iowa St.
17 Oklahoma
18 C. Carolina
19 USC
20 Northwestern
21 Auburn
22 Liberty
23 Texas
24 North Carolina
25 Louisiana
26 Tulsa
27 Utah
28 SMU
29 Appalachian State
30 Purdue
31 Kentucky
32 Missouri
33 Arkansas
34 Nevada
35 Army
36 Boise State
37 San Jose St.

38 BC
39 Maryland
40 Memphis
41 Tennessee
42 Washington
43 Colorado
44 K State

Interesting how UCF at 5-2 remains off this list and only one vote in the AP. I get it though, none of UCF's wins have been vs teams with pulse (save for maaaaaybe Tulane and Houston wins). I figured Tulane beating Army and now Tulsa being #25 would help UCF's strength of schedule but nope, apparently not. Would a win over #7 Cincy even get them in the Top 25 at this point? UCF went from being over-rated to under-rated very fast.

The whole Big12 is vastly overrated this year. I don't see a big difference between UCF's record at 5-2 and ISU at 5-2.

Louisiana beat Iowa State, has a better record with a quality loss to CCU and is still 10 spots behind them.
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RE: Top 25 rankings: Weeks 11 & 12
WEEK 12:

AP TOP 25:

1 Alabama
2 Notre Dame
3 Ohio State
4 Clemson
5 Texas A&M
6 Florida
7 Cincinnati
8 BYU

9 Oregon
10 Miami
11 Northwestern
12 Indiana
13 Georgia
14 Oklahoma
15 Iowa State
16 Coastal Carolina
17 Marshall
18 Wisconsin
19 USC
20 Texas
21 Oklahoma State
22 Auburn
23 Louisiana
24 Tulsa
25 North Carolina

Other teams receiving votes:

26 Washington
27 Liberty
28 Nevada
29 SMU
30 Iowa
31 Boise St.
32 FAU
33 Buffalo
34 San Jose St.


Coaches Top 25:

The same teams as in the AP poll, with minor differences in order.

Other teams receiving votes in Coaches Top 25:

26 Nevada
27 Liberty
28 Missouri
29 Washington
30 Maryland
31 San Jose St.
32 Boston College
33 NC State
34 Boise State
35 SMU
36 Memphis
37 App. State
38 Army

39 LSU
40 Purdue
41 Iowa
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Is it bad that I think Cincy, SMU, Memphis, Tulsa, Houston, Tulane and UCF would all wallop Coastal Carolina / Marshall / Louisiana?
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RE: Top 25 rankings: Weeks 11 & 12
(11-15-2020 08:05 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(11-15-2020 06:25 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I hope AAC team gets the top G5 spot. It would annoy me if Marshall team UCF destroyed got top spot bc AAC is 5x tougher than CUSA/MWC/SBC.

That 2019 team also had their doors blown off by Cincinnati.

It was a mediocre 2019 Marshall team. Completely different DNA and QB. This 2020 Marshall team is quite different.

But I respect and understand your point.

I don't think you will have to worry about Marshall taking that spot. Cincinnati will have to lose twice, and that won't happen this year.

It sucks, because normally I would be rooting really hard for Cincinnati. I like their program, and if their players had Ohio State helmets on, they would be ranked #1. It's crap.

not to be mean, but your QB last year looked like a train wreck - looks like a 2020 upgrade there?
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(11-23-2020 12:58 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Is it bad that I think Cincy, SMU, Memphis, Tulsa, Houston, Tulane and UCF would all wallop Coastal Carolina / Marshall / Louisiana?

Of course it's not "bad," unless you want to be "bad."

A touch hubristic and "badass," maybe, but not bad.

Is it "bad" that some others will disagree?

I would trust the rankings on this.

Cincy should be able to beat C. Carolina, Marshall, and Louisiana on a neutral field, but by how much, it's hard to say.

Tulsa, SMU, UCF, and probably Memphis would give them a good tussle on a neutral field and defeat them on their home fields, but maybe not on the road.

Houston and Tulane might be able to beat some of these teams on their home fields, but probably not on the road, and maybe not on a neutral field.

If C. Carolina, Marshall, and Louisiana were in the AAC, they would probably be among the top 5 or 6 best teams in the conference.
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RE: Top 25 rankings: Weeks 11 & 12
(11-23-2020 07:52 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(11-23-2020 12:58 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Is it bad that I think Cincy, SMU, Memphis, Tulsa, Houston, Tulane and UCF would all wallop Coastal Carolina / Marshall / Louisiana?

Of course it's not "bad," unless you want to be "bad."

A touch hubristic and "badass," maybe, but not bad.

Is it "bad" that some others will disagree?

I would trust the rankings on this.

Cincy should be able to beat C. Carolina, Marshall, and Louisiana on a neutral field, but by how much, it's hard to say.

Tulsa, SMU, UCF, and probably Memphis would give them a good tussle on a neutral field and defeat them on their home fields, but maybe not on the road.

Houston and Tulane might be able to beat some of these teams on their home fields, but probably not on the road, and maybe not on a neutral field.

If C. Carolina, Marshall, and Louisiana were in the AAC, they would probably be among the top 5 or 6 best teams in the conference.


Cincy beats those teams by 2+ scores on a neutral field.
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RE: Top 25 rankings: Weeks 11 & 12
(11-23-2020 09:38 AM)kskenyon4 Wrote:  
(11-23-2020 07:52 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(11-23-2020 12:58 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Is it bad that I think Cincy, SMU, Memphis, Tulsa, Houston, Tulane and UCF would all wallop Coastal Carolina / Marshall / Louisiana?

Of course it's not "bad," unless you want to be "bad."

A touch hubristic and "badass," maybe, but not bad.

Is it "bad" that some others will disagree?

I would trust the rankings on this.

Cincy should be able to beat C. Carolina, Marshall, and Louisiana on a neutral field, but by how much, it's hard to say.

Tulsa, SMU, UCF, and probably Memphis would give them a good tussle on a neutral field and defeat them on their home fields, but maybe not on the road.

Houston and Tulane might be able to beat some of these teams on their home fields, but probably not on the road, and maybe not on a neutral field.

If C. Carolina, Marshall, and Louisiana were in the AAC, they would probably be among the top 5 or 6 best teams in the conference.


Cincy beats those teams by 2+ scores on a neutral field.

I think that's a hedge...nothing about Coastal Carolina in the two games I've watched makes me think they are any better than middle of the pack at best. I genuinely believe they'd be under .500 in the AAC.
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RE: Top 25 rankings: Weeks 11 & 12
(11-23-2020 10:26 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(11-23-2020 09:38 AM)kskenyon4 Wrote:  
(11-23-2020 07:52 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(11-23-2020 12:58 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Is it bad that I think Cincy, SMU, Memphis, Tulsa, Houston, Tulane and UCF would all wallop Coastal Carolina / Marshall / Louisiana?

Of course it's not "bad," unless you want to be "bad."

A touch hubristic and "badass," maybe, but not bad.

Is it "bad" that some others will disagree?

I would trust the rankings on this.

Cincy should be able to beat C. Carolina, Marshall, and Louisiana on a neutral field, but by how much, it's hard to say.

Tulsa, SMU, UCF, and probably Memphis would give them a good tussle on a neutral field and defeat them on their home fields, but maybe not on the road.

Houston and Tulane might be able to beat some of these teams on their home fields, but probably not on the road, and maybe not on a neutral field.

If C. Carolina, Marshall, and Louisiana were in the AAC, they would probably be among the top 5 or 6 best teams in the conference.


Cincy beats those teams by 2+ scores on a neutral field.

I think that's a hedge...nothing about Coastal Carolina in the two games I've watched makes me think they are any better than middle of the pack at best. I genuinely believe they'd be under .500 in the AAC.

The secondaries that they’ve been playing against are piss poor.
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