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OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wichita State
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RE: Not CUSA Related: Gregg Marshall Out At Wicita State
Wah wah my coach yelled at me.

Very indicative of how soft of a society we're becoming.
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Not CUSA Related: Gregg Marshall Out At Wicita State
(11-11-2020 10:36 PM)TTT Wrote:  Wah wah my coach yelled at me.

Very indicative of how soft of a society we're becoming.


If true, punching a player is not acceptable, in any society.


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RE: OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wicita State
(11-12-2020 06:41 AM)galojah Wrote:  
(11-11-2020 10:36 PM)TTT Wrote:  Wah wah my coach yelled at me.

Very indicative of how soft of a society we're becoming.


If true, punching a player is not acceptable, in any society.


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I'm finding it harder and harder to believe the accusations of students today.

A great many of accusations that have been occurring by football players/basketball players have been overblown with half-truths, even sometimes flat-out lies.

Some of these accusations boil down to ideological disagreements between players and coaches... because that's the current climate we're in of cancel culture. If you don't like your coach, try to get him fired.
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RE: OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wicita State
(11-12-2020 10:34 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I'm finding it harder and harder to believe the accusations of students today.

A great many of accusations that have been occurring by football players/basketball players have been overblown with half-truths, even sometimes flat-out lies.

Some of these accusations boil down to ideological disagreements between players and coaches... because that's the current climate we're in of cancel culture. If you don't like your coach, try to get him fired.

So you think it is OK for a coach, your former DC to mentally abuse his players by telling them they are jackasses, no good for nothing troublemakers and will be nothing for not believing the way he does. He is the one brought both religion and politics to the field where neither belong and should have been fired on the damn spot instead of given a 3 week investigation.

There is a line you can't cross. And you can't cross it just a lil and then scream Im Sorry.
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RE: OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wicita State
Somebody is going to hire Marshall and put him on a zero-tolerance policy to cover their butts for making the hire, and he will turn them into a winner.
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RE: OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wicita State
(11-11-2020 10:36 PM)TTT Wrote:  Wah wah my coach yelled at me.

Very indicative of how soft of a society we're becoming.

He chocked an assistant coach but I guess he’s just soft too right?
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(11-12-2020 11:32 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  So you think it is OK for a coach, your former DC to mentally abuse his players by telling them they are jackasses, no good for nothing troublemakers and will be nothing for not believing the way he does. He is the one brought both religion and politics to the field where neither belong and should have been fired on the damn spot instead of given a 3 week investigation.

There is a line you can't cross. And you can't cross it just a lil and then scream Im Sorry.

I never said those things were okay. I simply said players today are becoming harder to trust because a lot of things that have been said in previous cases just haven't been true.

And some of the stuff you just mentioned about Koenning aren't even totally factual.

In the case of Vic Koenning, it became clear that some of the truths were stretched by the accusing players, and things weren't a clear depiction of what may have actually been occurring. A lot of hyperbole, especially when a player says a coach has a "slave master" mentality. Sounds better to say those kinds of phrases, even if they aren't true, if you're wanting to get your point across. Even Neal Brown basically said in his Twitter statement that the truth wasn't being told.

On top of that, although the allegations were supported by some players, it was disputed by others on the WVU team through social media. Even one of the accuser's former HS head coach said one of the stories he told was a lie.

Koenning and WVU mutually agreed to part ways, but not before the school agreed to pay him the rest of his contract. That means they didn't have just cause to straight up terminate him and his contract. And WVU sure as heck wouldn't have kept him hired on, no matter if the facts favored Koenning, because it would've turned into a "cancel WVU" rallying cry.
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(11-12-2020 12:33 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Somebody is going to hire Marshall and put him on a zero-tolerance policy to cover their butts for making the hire, and he will turn them into a winner.

congrats to Liberty for their new bball coach. Online tuition just went up 10% to cover new costs.
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RE: OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wicita State
(11-12-2020 01:06 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 12:33 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Somebody is going to hire Marshall and put him on a zero-tolerance policy to cover their butts for making the hire, and he will turn them into a winner.

congrats to Liberty for their new bball coach. Online tuition just went up 10% to cover new costs.

Liberty only finished about 20ish spots behind Wichita State last season in the Net Rankings. Not sure they need Marshall.
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RE: OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wicita State
Marshall beats Wichita State!

Oh, we're not talking about the NCAA tournament...
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RE: OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wicita State
(11-12-2020 01:06 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 12:33 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Somebody is going to hire Marshall and put him on a zero-tolerance policy to cover their butts for making the hire, and he will turn them into a winner.

congrats to Liberty for their new bball coach. Online tuition just went up 10% to cover new costs.

1) we have a great BB coach
2) tuition has been frozen for like 5 years
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RE: OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wichita State
At some point AAC has to have buyers remorse for inviting Wichita State in for Bball.
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(11-12-2020 04:25 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  At some point AAC has to have buyers remorse for inviting Wichita State in for Bball.

If the Thad Matta to WSU rumors turn out to be true, then I think the AAC will be able to cope.
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(11-12-2020 12:43 PM)ThunderDrunk304 Wrote:  He chocked an assistant coach but I guess he’s just soft too right?


^this is exactly the problem I'm talking about. You don't need evidence. All you need is the accusation. Sad.

According to the article, the coach unequivocally denies it. It's all alleged.

Again, if you don't like someone, all you have to do is allege something happened. It doesn't need to be proven. Just allege it and poof, they're gone.
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clt agrees that this is overblown.

If he chocked someone, he was just trying to keep their car from rolling down a hill.

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(11-12-2020 04:40 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 04:25 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  At some point AAC has to have buyers remorse for inviting Wichita State in for Bball.

If the Thad Matta to WSU rumors turn out to be true, then I think the AAC will be able to cope.

As long as the Koch’s write the donor checks, Wichita State will be fine.
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RE: OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wichita State
(11-12-2020 05:21 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 12:43 PM)ThunderDrunk304 Wrote:  He chocked an assistant coach but I guess he’s just soft too right?


^this is exactly the problem I'm talking about. You don't need evidence. All you need is the accusation. Sad.

According to the article, the coach unequivocally denies it. It's all alleged.

Again, if you don't like someone, all you have to do is allege something happened. It doesn't need to be proven. Just allege it and poof, they're gone.

Putin denies interfering with US elections. Many other people says he did.

All the allegations against Marshall were corroborated by witnesses. Maybe it’s a conspiracy but if he’s that disliked by people within the program then WSU is better off cutting ties anyway.

I’ve always felt where there’s smoke there’s fire. This isn’t a single accusation that is one persons word against another. This is a pattern of violent behavior, with witnesses. Marshall’s word means **** here.
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RE: OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wichita State
You don't like seeing people fired.

Hopefully these allegations inspire GM to change. If he in fact, did the things in which he was accused, he knows it, and certainly needs to change or get therapy.

If the allegations are false, he's gonna need proof, be humble in his interview for the next opportunity. Being proud and defiant won't win him any second chances.
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RE: OT: Gregg Marshall Out At Wichita State
Poor guy probably got his ass kicked by his wife every time he lost a game and took it out on his players and assistants.
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