(11-10-2020 03:14 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Is the office the one the GSA denied them

that's just 6.3 million in funding and a security clearance to get the transition going as I understand it.

What you are seeing the MSM do is name the winner and then prop them up as the winner with photo ops, speeches and Q&A.
Its optics to convince Americans that this is a done deal and decided.
Its not until the electoral college meets...and even after that not until inauguration.

(11-10-2020 09:39 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  What you are seeing the MSM do is name the winner and then prop them up as the winner with photo ops, speeches and Q&A.
Its optics to convince Americans that this is a done deal and decided.
Its not until the electoral college meets...and even after that not until inauguration.

sure, if you wanna go by technicalities...how many times has a presumptive president-elect not taken office?

the media, world leaders, even many GOP politicians see it's over for Trump.

(11-10-2020 09:44 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 09:39 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  What you are seeing the MSM do is name the winner and then prop them up as the winner with photo ops, speeches and Q&A.
Its optics to convince Americans that this is a done deal and decided.
Its not until the electoral college meets...and even after that not until inauguration.

sure, if you wanna go by technicalities...how many times has a presumptive president-elect not taken office?

the media, world leaders, even many GOP politicians see it's over for Trump.

3 or 4 times.

(11-10-2020 09:44 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 09:39 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  What you are seeing the MSM do is name the winner and then prop them up as the winner with photo ops, speeches and Q&A.
Its optics to convince Americans that this is a done deal and decided.
Its not until the electoral college meets...and even after that not until inauguration.

sure, if you wanna go by technicalities...how many times has a presumptive president-elect not taken office?

the media, world leaders, even many GOP politicians see it's over for Trump.

One could also ask how many times even an uncontested, with no lawsuits, “president elect” has taken to the public airways to talk policy a few days after the election and with no concession from the opposition?

None, and many would have KILLED for the opportunity, but the media wouldn’t let them get away with it. A faux presidential looking lecturn and backdrop and all. It’s shocking that even the media we have was this ballsy and blatant in their attempt to sway public opinion in a very distorted and unusual way.

(11-10-2020 11:02 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 09:44 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 09:39 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  What you are seeing the MSM do is name the winner and then prop them up as the winner with photo ops, speeches and Q&A.
Its optics to convince Americans that this is a done deal and decided.
Its not until the electoral college meets...and even after that not until inauguration.

sure, if you wanna go by technicalities...how many times has a presumptive president-elect not taken office?

the media, world leaders, even many GOP politicians see it's over for Trump.

One could also ask how many times even an uncontested, with no lawsuits, “president elect” has taken to the public airways to talk policy a few days after the election and with no concession from the opposition?

None, and many would have KILLED for the opportunity, but the media wouldn’t let them get away with it. A faux presidential looking lecturn and backdrop and all. It’s shocking that even the media we have was this ballsy and blatant in their attempt to sway public opinion in a very distorted and unusual way.

When you see this many unprecedented things happen, things which in your lifetime you have never seen happen before, and I've been around a long time, then you know there's something very rotten and evil going on behind the scenes.

Now add to this the fact that for the first time ever the press is covering it up in our free society and you can see that not only has a coup d'etat been attempted again against this President but that the rich and powerful are in on it. And that means that functionally the Republic no longer exists as we have known it. And that should concern everyone who loves this country and wants the best future for their families.

This whole damn year from the release of the virus has been one inexplicable happening after another all leading conveniently to this conclusion. You have to be awfully blind or willingly complicit in it not to feel deep down in your gut how horribly wrong things are. I began feeling that way when I found out how complicit the DOJ and FBI had to be with the crap show that has been the House.

I feel strangely like Mark Antony wondering why Brutus and Cassius killed Caesar. Until this point in my life the only other time I felt this way was when Bobby Kennedy was killed and realized deep down that JFK was only the beginning of something darker afoot.

(11-10-2020 03:42 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Biden will be the President - BUT on the slim odds that this somehow gets overturned, I am afraid the rioting will be the likes we have never seen in this country. There will be blood shed over this and it will be ugly. IMO this would have been bad regardless, but the media will have certainly fanned the flames of that reaction.

If Trump was to get on TV and concede for the safety of the country and state it was because he was THE most polarizing president in history - that would be the first time he would not be over exaggerating.

Nah Donnie, these men are cowards. If that's what they want let's see how much stomach they have for it.

(11-10-2020 11:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 11:02 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 09:44 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 09:39 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  What you are seeing the MSM do is name the winner and then prop them up as the winner with photo ops, speeches and Q&A.
Its optics to convince Americans that this is a done deal and decided.
Its not until the electoral college meets...and even after that not until inauguration.

sure, if you wanna go by technicalities...how many times has a presumptive president-elect not taken office?

the media, world leaders, even many GOP politicians see it's over for Trump.

One could also ask how many times even an uncontested, with no lawsuits, “president elect” has taken to the public airways to talk policy a few days after the election and with no concession from the opposition?

None, and many would have KILLED for the opportunity, but the media wouldn’t let them get away with it. A faux presidential looking lecturn and backdrop and all. It’s shocking that even the media we have was this ballsy and blatant in their attempt to sway public opinion in a very distorted and unusual way.

When you see this many unprecedented things happen, things which in your lifetime you have never seen happen before, and I've been around a long time, then you know there's something very rotten and evil going on behind the scenes.

Now add to this the fact that for the first time ever the press is covering it up in our free society and you can see that not only has a coup d'etat been attempted again against this President but that the rich and powerful are in on it. And that means that functionally the Republic no longer exists as we have known it. And that should concern everyone who loves this country and wants the best future for their families.

This whole damn year from the release of the virus has been one inexplicable happening after another all leading conveniently to this conclusion. You have to be awfully blind or willingly complicit in it not to feel deep down in your gut how horribly wrong things are. I began feeling that way when I found out how complicit the DOJ and FBI had to be with the crap show that has been the House.

I feel strangely like Mark Antony wondering why Brutus and Cassius killed Caesar. Until this point in my life the only other time I felt this way was when Bobby Kennedy was killed and realized deep down that JFK was only the beginning of something darker afoot.

 "These are the times that try men's souls: the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country..." Thomas Paine.

The word needs to be given.

there is no "Office of the President-Elect". Obama started that crap to make himself seem legitimate. And Biden hasn't been elected anything, in any state yet.

I've never been a big fan of Trump, but I now want him more than ever to pull this off. I'd take the day off work just to watch the sad and disbelief on the media's sanctimonious faces.

If there is fraud that is not rooted out, it’s the beginning of the end of everything. Once people know they can get away with it, they will do it over and over and over. I don’t know if there is a real massive fraud or just little stuff that doesn’t change the outcome, but I like things decided in the light of day nonetheless.

(11-10-2020 03:42 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Biden will be the President - BUT on the slim odds that this somehow gets overturned, I am afraid the rioting will be the likes we have never seen in this country. There will be blood shed over this and it will be ugly. IMO this would have been bad regardless, but the media will have certainly fanned the flames of that reaction.

If Trump was to get on TV and concede for the safety of the country and state it was because he was THE most polarizing president in history - that would be the first time he would not be over exaggerating.

Nope.

For me BHO was the most polarizing. Just because the media liked him doesn't mean a thing.

(11-10-2020 03:42 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Biden will be the President - BUT on the slim odds that this somehow gets overturned, I am afraid the rioting will be the likes we have never seen in this country. There will be blood shed over this and it will be ugly. IMO this would have been bad regardless, but the media will have certainly fanned the flames of that reaction.
If Trump was to get on TV and concede for the safety of the country and state it was because he was THE most polarizing president in history - that would be the first time he would not be over exaggerating.

If the other side would just give in, we could have unity.

If the election is overturned, the fraud would have to be rampant and coordinated...
and if so it has to be exposed to sunshine which is the best disinfectant.
If we let it go it would happen again and again and the republic would be lost over time.

Yes the let would riot (and loot)
but if the Country decided to appease the left out of fear that they will riot
it's equivalent to giving into blackmail.
You never give into blackmail.