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Dayem Guns,

20 plays for 74 yds taking more than 10 minutes off of the clock and NOTHING to show for it? How the hell does that happen? Went for it on fourth down? Missed FG?
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(11-09-2020 08:17 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Dayem Guns,

20 plays for 74 yds taking more than 10 minutes off of the clock and NOTHING to show for it? How the hell does that happen? Went for it on fourth down? Missed FG?

Western has a good FG kicker 6 for 7 with the only miss on a 50 yarder with 20 mph winds vs FAU

Turned it over on downs vs BYU. Had first and goal at I believe 2 yardline and gained 1 yard. Like a damn idiot Helton called 2 or 3 pass plays instead of lining up and taking 4 shots at running over or around BYU.

Every drive the ball is snapped with no more than 3 seconds on the play clock. Most of the time with 1 second. Not just against BYU but every snap the last 3 or 4 games.

I honestly believe Helton should be fired with cause...any coach that says this Western offense had a good chance of being 2015 & 2016 good. Doesnt have a freaking clue about what it takes to run a good exciting offense.

I could understand a QB not working out. I still wouldnt liked it but could understand that. But Helton loss me when he compared this teams offense to 2015 & 2016. It just shows he doesnt have a clue and his eye for skilled talent is awful.

Dont think this team is that far off from being a 7 to 8 win team this season......QB makes a difference. Even a average one that mostly make the correct reads and decisions on time. But the coach picked this QB and sticking with him and add that to the comment about 2015 & 2016....

clueless on skill talent

edit: I said I was finished and wasnt going back any more wasnt worth the 7 hour investment of time I had to make for a home game (counting drive time). Well I do love college football and going against what I said and will be there tomorrow. I'm a idiot! that loves suffering
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(11-09-2020 08:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 08:17 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Dayem Guns,

20 plays for 74 yds taking more than 10 minutes off of the clock and NOTHING to show for it? How the hell does that happen? Went for it on fourth down? Missed FG?

Western has a good FG kicker 6 for 7 with the only miss on a 50 yarder with 20 mph winds vs FAU

Turned it over on downs vs BYU. Had first and goal at I believe 2 yardline and gained 1 yard. Like a damn idiot Helton called 2 or 3 pass plays instead of lining up and taking 4 shots at running over or around BYU.

Every drive the ball is snapped with no more than 3 seconds on the play clock. Most of the time with 1 second. Not just against BYU but every snap the last 3 or 4 games.

I honestly believe Helton should be fired with cause...any coach that says this Western offense had a good chance of being 2015 & 2016 good. Doesnt have a freaking clue about what it takes to run a good exciting offense.

I could understand a QB not working out. I still wouldnt liked it but could understand that. But Helton loss me when he compared this teams offense to 2015 & 2016. It just shows he doesnt have a clue and his eye for skilled talent is awful.

Dont think this team is that far off from being a 7 to 8 win team this season......QB makes a difference. Even a average one that mostly make the correct reads and decisions on time. But the coach picked this QB and sticking with him and add that to the comment about 2015 & 2016....

clueless on skill talent

edit: I said I was finished and wasnt going back any more wasnt worth the 7 hour investment of time I had to make for a home game (counting drive time). Well I do love college football and going against what I said and will be there tomorrow. I'm a idiot! that loves suffering

From what I saw, a serviceable qb would do you all a lot of good. However, the talent of Doughty, Higbee, Lucky, and Lamp ain’t there. That one monstrosity of a qb you all had that had us on the ropes before he got strip sacked was really good. He was HUGE! Was that Duncan?

But defense needs to gel a bit.
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A big reason for 3 was the FAU defense. If you can read stats you’ll see this is a solid bend don’t break D as we have shown in all 4 games. Yes, your offense sucks but our D is solid. BTW, our offense sucks as well but our D is a heck of a lot better than yours.
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WKUs offense is as bad as we've had during our FBS years. This is a pretty sad state for both programs. I'm not sure who will win this pillow fight.

If your QB can run at all, you will beat us going away.
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(11-09-2020 09:05 PM)Dusky Wrote:  A big reason for 3 was the FAU defense. If you can read stats you’ll see this is a solid bend don’t break D as we have shown in all 4 games. Yes, your offense sucks but our D is solid. BTW, our offense sucks as well but our D is a heck of a lot better than yours.

With a avg qb Western wins that game by 10. The FAU defense held the Western offense just about the same stats as Chattanooga. So to be 100% honest I did not see anything special about the FAU defense. Western had a number of receivers open all night and 4 or 5 drops balls that had nothing to do with the defense. And another 4 or 5 with the trows not with in a foot of the receiver. If Western had a avg qb that would look past the called route...two wide open WR/TE that would have been easy TDs right down the middle of the field. There's a reason Piggy has one of the QB ratings in FBS even without a INT all season.

Chattanooga 122 yards 3.7 yards a carry, 132 yards on 16 completions
FAU 94 yards 3.5 yards a carry, 163 yards on 19 completions

As for who's defense played better,,,Western, right up to that last drive which was 75 yards....with 60 of those coming from the new qb that Western did not adjust to.
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(11-09-2020 08:43 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 08:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 08:17 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Dayem Guns,

20 plays for 74 yds taking more than 10 minutes off of the clock and NOTHING to show for it? How the hell does that happen? Went for it on fourth down? Missed FG?

Western has a good FG kicker 6 for 7 with the only miss on a 50 yarder with 20 mph winds vs FAU

Turned it over on downs vs BYU. Had first and goal at I believe 2 yardline and gained 1 yard. Like a damn idiot Helton called 2 or 3 pass plays instead of lining up and taking 4 shots at running over or around BYU.

Every drive the ball is snapped with no more than 3 seconds on the play clock. Most of the time with 1 second. Not just against BYU but every snap the last 3 or 4 games.

I honestly believe Helton should be fired with cause...any coach that says this Western offense had a good chance of being 2015 & 2016 good. Doesnt have a freaking clue about what it takes to run a good exciting offense.

I could understand a QB not working out. I still wouldnt liked it but could understand that. But Helton loss me when he compared this teams offense to 2015 & 2016. It just shows he doesnt have a clue and his eye for skilled talent is awful.

Dont think this team is that far off from being a 7 to 8 win team this season......QB makes a difference. Even a average one that mostly make the correct reads and decisions on time. But the coach picked this QB and sticking with him and add that to the comment about 2015 & 2016....

clueless on skill talent

edit: I said I was finished and wasnt going back any more wasnt worth the 7 hour investment of time I had to make for a home game (counting drive time). Well I do love college football and going against what I said and will be there tomorrow. I'm a idiot! that loves suffering

From what I saw, a serviceable qb would do you all a lot of good. However, the talent of Doughty, Higbee, Lucky, and Lamp ain’t there. That one monstrosity of a qb you all had that had us on the ropes before he got strip sacked was really good. He was HUGE! Was that Duncan?

But defense needs to gel a bit.

Last year? That was Storey. This season the qb that came in when Piggy was taken out was KT ...he's 6'4 and 250 and not worth a crap. Cant make a read and if he does get lucky to spot a open WR...he's late with the throw
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(11-09-2020 09:28 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 09:05 PM)Dusky Wrote:  A big reason for 3 was the FAU defense. If you can read stats you’ll see this is a solid bend don’t break D as we have shown in all 4 games. Yes, your offense sucks but our D is solid. BTW, our offense sucks as well but our D is a heck of a lot better than yours.

With a avg qb Western wins that game by 10. The FAU defense held the Western offense just about the same stats as Chattanooga. So to be 100% honest I did not see anything special about the FAU defense. Western had a number of receivers open all night and 4 or 5 drops balls that had nothing to do with the defense. If Western had a avg qb that would look past the called route...two wide open WR/TE that would have been easy TDs right down the middle of the field. There's a reason Piggy has one of the QB ratings in FBS even without a INT all season.

Chattanooga 122 yards 3.7 yards a carry, 132 yards on 16 completions
FAU 94 yards 3.5 yards a carry, 163 yards on 19 completions

As for who's defense played better,,,Western, right up to that last drive which was 75 yards....with 60 of those coming from the new qb that Western did not adjust to.

At some point the numbers get so small that a 25% reduction in offense is 25 yards. You have to see my point. Things happen in a game because of the way the game is being played, that’s why drops happen and turnovers happen. That’s why the what if conversation is so ridiculous.

We played you to 3 points, period. He didn’t miss the fg because of the wind he just missed it, watch the replay.

I will say, and said during the game that your D was definitely better than I expected. Your qb played worse than I thought at the game until I watched the replay. Missed throws and some drops but much of that is due to a solid d forcing situations.

Good luck this week, go East!
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(11-09-2020 09:31 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 08:43 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 08:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 08:17 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Dayem Guns,

20 plays for 74 yds taking more than 10 minutes off of the clock and NOTHING to show for it? How the hell does that happen? Went for it on fourth down? Missed FG?

Western has a good FG kicker 6 for 7 with the only miss on a 50 yarder with 20 mph winds vs FAU

Turned it over on downs vs BYU. Had first and goal at I believe 2 yardline and gained 1 yard. Like a damn idiot Helton called 2 or 3 pass plays instead of lining up and taking 4 shots at running over or around BYU.

Every drive the ball is snapped with no more than 3 seconds on the play clock. Most of the time with 1 second. Not just against BYU but every snap the last 3 or 4 games.

I honestly believe Helton should be fired with cause...any coach that says this Western offense had a good chance of being 2015 & 2016 good. Doesnt have a freaking clue about what it takes to run a good exciting offense.

I could understand a QB not working out. I still wouldnt liked it but could understand that. But Helton loss me when he compared this teams offense to 2015 & 2016. It just shows he doesnt have a clue and his eye for skilled talent is awful.

Dont think this team is that far off from being a 7 to 8 win team this season......QB makes a difference. Even a average one that mostly make the correct reads and decisions on time. But the coach picked this QB and sticking with him and add that to the comment about 2015 & 2016....

clueless on skill talent

edit: I said I was finished and wasnt going back any more wasnt worth the 7 hour investment of time I had to make for a home game (counting drive time). Well I do love college football and going against what I said and will be there tomorrow. I'm a idiot! that loves suffering

From what I saw, a serviceable qb would do you all a lot of good. However, the talent of Doughty, Higbee, Lucky, and Lamp ain’t there. That one monstrosity of a qb you all had that had us on the ropes before he got strip sacked was really good. He was HUGE! Was that Duncan?

But defense needs to gel a bit.

Last year? That was Storey. This season the qb that came in when Piggy was taken out was KT ...he's 6'4 and 250 and not worth a crap. Cant make a read and if he does get lucky to spot a open WR...he's late with the throw

No, in 2018...
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(11-09-2020 09:24 PM)CrushMI Wrote:  WKUs offense is as bad as we've had during our FBS years. This is a pretty sad state for both programs. I'm not sure who will win this pillow fight.

If your QB can run at all, you will beat us going away.

He can't really run. Good passer though. The backup is a run first guy.
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We suck more!! This is the funniest game thread ever.
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We are down to our 3rd string coach too. WKU can you beat that?
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(11-09-2020 03:13 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 02:48 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 02:14 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Can Western even score 8 points? I think 10 is the limit but wouldnt be shocked with 7 points. Dont see 14 unless its a pick 6 or turnover inside the 5.

Piggy has a QB Rating of 114 (only 12 out of 105 qbs worse) and thats without throwing a INT all season. Let that sink in...ZERO INTS and qb rating of 114. KT the back up qb that Helton chose to start when Piggy was injured has a qb rating of 105

take the points

Scored 21 in the Louisville game ...blocked 2 punts and took over both inside the Louisville 5 yard line
10 points vs BYU returned a INT to the BYU 3
Chattanooga scored the only TD after taking over at mid field and a ruffing the passer call on 3rd down
14 vs Marshall with points coming in 4th qt
Liberty is the only game that Western played any offense in
Middle was giving up something like 200 a game and Western was cvery lucky to put 20 on the board
6 points vs FAU and no, that wasnt because of FAUs defense...Westerns offense is just that bad

S. Miss will get their first ever win against Western on Saturday

Last season, late in the year, when WKU came to H'burg, I thought they were one of the better coached teams that I had seen all season. They impressed me in many ways and I was expecting that to carry over to this season. What has happened this year?

Coach Helton does not have the eye to spot and develop talent. The fact he chose Piggy to start and then say "this team has the chance to be as good on offense as 2015 and 2016" . Says it all.

Last year if not for the season ending injury to Ducan, Storey never sees the field. Storey wasnt a great QB but knew his limitations and made great decisions.

A avg qb like Storey was all this team needed. Duncan the QB Helton chose to start last year was a avg qb but he made bad decisions. He transferred before the season started after Helton let it be known Piggy was his QB.

This team had 18 starters coming back and the top 2 WR transferred out right before the season fr one and 2 games in for the other. Helton is not a bad coach he just isnt a very good offensive coach and as I said....

everytime he had the chance to pick a QB, he's made the wrong decision. Once last year and so far three times this season.

1. starting Piggy
2. Starting KT as Piggy's replacement (turf toe)
3. giving the job by to Piggy

His offensive play calling is awful along with spotting skilled talent . The thing that made me know for a fact on both of those....

any coach that could watch this offense for 15 practices and then say they could be "2015 & 2016 good"...is clueless.

Western has their version of Jack Abraham that Helton will not give a chance. Davis Shanley played 8 games as a freshman completing 68% and mostly made correct reads. Something this team badly needs. Piggy is the worse QB THAT i HAVE ever seen at reading a defense or making correct decisions...on time.

This team with a avg qb wins 7 to 8 games and plays in a bowl this year

Thanks for that info. WKU was my preseason pick in the East this year due to all of the returnees and the way the Red Blobs finished out last season.
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(11-10-2020 07:52 AM)WKgirldad Wrote:  We suck more!! This is the funniest game thread ever.

Our defense has been so bad that:
- prior to the FCS North Alabama game USM had only forced 12 punts (2 per game avg) all season. Our 1st opponent never had to punt, then in 3 of the next 4 games our opponent punted twice per game
- they've given up 30 or more points in all 6 games vs FBS teams with 2 of those 6 games allowing 50+ points
- 3 games we've allowed 500+ yards
- in all 6 FBS games we've allowed 144+ rushing yards

and on offense we've played our worst 2 games statistically the past 2 games which included 7 total turnovers....and FWIW, we only had 5 turnovers through the first 5 games. Last week against an FCS team our QB was so bad that his passing yards was exactly 100 yards with 2 INT on 12-20 passing.
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(11-10-2020 10:19 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  We are down to our 3rd string coach too. WKU can you beat that?


When your coach makes the statement about 7 days from the start of the season "this teams offense could be as good as the 2015 and 2016 Western offense"

Now let me compare the 2

2015 & 2016 44.3 and 45.5 ppg and 7.3 and 7.6 yards per play and thats with basically shutting it down around 7 minutes left in the 3rd qt

2020 15.2 ppg 4.4 yards a play

In my opinion a coach that made the quoted statement....shouldn't even be 3rd string
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(11-10-2020 12:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(11-10-2020 10:19 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  We are down to our 3rd string coach too. WKU can you beat that?


When your coach makes the statement about 7 days from the start of the season "this teams offense could be as good as the 2015 and 2016 Western offense"

Now let me compare the 2

2015 & 2016 44.3 and 45.5 ppg and 7.3 and 7.6 yards per play and thats with basically shutting it down around 7 minutes left in the 3rd qt

2020 15.2 ppg 4.4 yards a play

In my opinion a coach that made the quoted statement....shouldn't even be 3rd string

It seems obvious to me that WKU is just playing against much better defenses in this covid-19 season 04-jawdrop <the previous statement includes a very large dose of sarcasm>
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(11-10-2020 02:47 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  
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(11-10-2020 10:19 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  We are down to our 3rd string coach too. WKU can you beat that?


When your coach makes the statement about 7 days from the start of the season "this teams offense could be as good as the 2015 and 2016 Western offense"

Now let me compare the 2

2015 & 2016 44.3 and 45.5 ppg and 7.3 and 7.6 yards per play and thats with basically shutting it down around 7 minutes left in the 3rd qt

2020 15.2 ppg 4.4 yards a play

In my opinion a coach that made the quoted statement....shouldn't even be 3rd string

It seems obvious to me that WKU is just playing against much better defenses in this covid-19 season 04-jawdrop <the previous statement includes a very large dose of sarcasm>

I play up how awful this Western team is but I honestly believe with a average QB that plays under control and can read a defense and make mostly correct decisions. This would have been a 7 to 8 win season and the chance for another win in a bowl game . Last year would have been a 4 or 5 win season without Duncan getting hurt. Storey was just a avg QB that made good decisions and took what the defense gave him.

Who ever wins on Saturday will not surprise me...Western has trouble scoring and S. Miss has trouble stopping teams from scoring. Plus S. Miss is turnover prone
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So what bowl game does the winner go to? 03-lmfao
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This is the bowl game...

S. Miss gets the monkey off their back of never beating Western.
Western gets to stick their tongue out and say...still cant beat us

Then in 5 to 8 years when one or both of the schools are winning championships (again) this win will look good...no one will remember it was between two powder puff teams
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