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RE: 2nd FBS game to offset covid revenue loss
(11-17-2020 01:40 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
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(11-16-2020 12:48 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 01:41 PM)JMUska Wrote:  I'd be down to always schedule two FBS games to double the money we make.

If we went 7-2 in the other games, we'd still make playoffs.

If we lose 3 FCS games, the team likely isn't a national title contender anyway.

Would any of us really felt cheated if our teams that travelled to EKU or the one that hosted Liberty in playoffs had missed qualifying because we played an additional FBS game that year instead of an FCS cupcake? I wouldn't really.

EDIT: Also, my post automatically counted the FBS games as losses, which we know isn't always true.
But if you go 8-1 in the other games, you're definitely not getting a top 2 seed, likely not a top 4, maybe not even top 6. I like multiple home playoff games in the quarterfinals and semis, + a better chance at a trip to Frisco, more than a 2nd I-A game..

Everything you have stated is the truth. With that said, our path in 2004 was far more satisfying at the conclusion of each game than were the other paths taken. Certainly taking down the Bison in Fargo was the single most satisfying game, and the home game against Weber was a nail biter the following year, but the road we had to take to Chattanooga will forever be hard to beat. I could care less about scheduling an easy path to the championship game.

I don’t think this conversation is about scheduling an easy path. What we are discussing is the entertainment value of watching JMU football as fans. The home playoff games have become the most entertaining games of the season in recent years and we can all get to them. Going to Fargo and winning was an incredible experience but a once in a lifetime one. If I go there every year, it becomes a different experience.

If JMU remains FCS, the goal is to make and win in the playoffs along with hosting as many games as possible. 2004s playoff journey is a great memory too and was incredibly rewarding. It was JMUs first NC. The program had less than a handful of playoff wins prior to that season. I feel these things added to the experience of that run. If it happens again, will it mean as much?

If JMU remains FCS, then giving up home playoff games to play an additional FBS game is a bad trade off IMO.
Yep. While JMU should move up, as long as are FCS, the bolded is true.

For you and many others that is correct.

For me and many others - if not FBS, than at the very minimal have OOC games against FBS competition. Let's face it - right now - There's NDSU, then JMU, then the others in FCS. We should not play Norfolk State in order to give us a better shot at a seeding in the playoffs. There are 50 FBS schools we could play and be favored on a neutral field. Play one each year, even if the amount they pay us is minimal.
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RE: 2nd FBS game to offset covid revenue loss
Some pretty good takes so far on Alger’s decision to pull the plug on Fall sports.
It seems like JMU should be in the 141 teams that aren’t sitting on the sideline.
Also, they may have picked up additional FBS opportunities as games were cancelled last minute like other teams took advantage of the situation.

UNC was ready to play Sept 19th so the only roadbump would have been if JMU bailed last minute due to COVID just like Charlotte did After taking JMU’s spot. The numbers indicate over 80% of the games have been played as scheduled which is a pretty strong majority and good odds for playing games once contracted.
Perhaps JMU could have also gotten last minute games against some of these Teams that lost their opponent due to COVID quarantines... ( and they still could have played the potential Spring season as well )

Marshall
Houston
SMU
Baylor
Army
Ga Southern
Georgia State
South FLA
Wake Forest
Southern Miss
Cincinnati
Oklahoma State
Navy
Virginia
Georgia Tech
And many others.

We definitely have a permissive culture at JMU with No accountability for Alger when it comes to his decisions on athletics.
We’ll see what happens with hoops. It is possible he could pull the plug on Winter sports too.
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RE: 2nd FBS game to offset covid revenue loss
05-deadhorse should’ve played exhibition games 05-deadhorse Alger sucks 05-deadhorse UNC game 05-deadhorse
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RE: 2nd FBS game to offset covid revenue loss
(11-19-2020 10:14 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Some pretty good takes so far on Alger’s decision to pull the plug on Fall sports.
It seems like JMU should be in the 141 teams that aren’t sitting on the sideline.
Also, they may have picked up additional FBS opportunities as games were cancelled last minute like other teams took advantage of the situation.

UNC was ready to play Sept 19th so the only roadbump would have been if JMU bailed last minute due to COVID just like Charlotte did After taking JMU’s spot. The numbers indicate over 80% of the games have been played as scheduled which is a pretty strong majority and good odds for playing games once contracted.
Perhaps JMU could have also gotten last minute games against some of these Teams that lost their opponent due to COVID quarantines... ( and they still could have played the potential Spring season as well )

Marshall
Houston
SMU
Baylor
Army
Ga Southern
Georgia State
South FLA
Wake Forest
Southern Miss
Cincinnati
Oklahoma State
Navy
Virginia
Georgia Tech
And many others.

We definitely have a permissive culture at JMU with No accountability for Alger when it comes to his decisions on athletics.
We’ll see what happens with hoops. It is possible he could pull the plug on Winter sports too.

The men's hoops program had beeb long destroyed prior to Alger, thay one is on King and Bourne although Bourne may not have been making the decisions.
11-21-2020 09:54 AM
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RE: 2nd FBS game to offset covid revenue loss
(11-17-2020 02:12 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 01:40 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 09:32 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(11-16-2020 04:40 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(11-16-2020 12:48 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  But if you go 8-1 in the other games, you're definitely not getting a top 2 seed, likely not a top 4, maybe not even top 6. I like multiple home playoff games in the quarterfinals and semis, + a better chance at a trip to Frisco, more than a 2nd I-A game..

Everything you have stated is the truth. With that said, our path in 2004 was far more satisfying at the conclusion of each game than were the other paths taken. Certainly taking down the Bison in Fargo was the single most satisfying game, and the home game against Weber was a nail biter the following year, but the road we had to take to Chattanooga will forever be hard to beat. I could care less about scheduling an easy path to the championship game.

I don’t think this conversation is about scheduling an easy path. What we are discussing is the entertainment value of watching JMU football as fans. The home playoff games have become the most entertaining games of the season in recent years and we can all get to them. Going to Fargo and winning was an incredible experience but a once in a lifetime one. If I go there every year, it becomes a different experience.

If JMU remains FCS, the goal is to make and win in the playoffs along with hosting as many games as possible. 2004s playoff journey is a great memory too and was incredibly rewarding. It was JMUs first NC. The program had less than a handful of playoff wins prior to that season. I feel these things added to the experience of that run. If it happens again, will it mean as much?

If JMU remains FCS, then giving up home playoff games to play an additional FBS game is a bad trade off IMO.
Yep. While JMU should move up, as long as are FCS, the bolded is true.

For you and many others that is correct.

For me and many others - if not FBS, than at the very minimal have OOC games against FBS competition. Let's face it - right now - There's NDSU, then JMU, then the others in FCS. We should not play Norfolk State in order to give us a better shot at a seeding in the playoffs. There are 50 FBS schools we could play and be favored on a neutral field. Play one each year, even if the amount they pay us is minimal.
Where did I say shouldn't play 1 FBS game a year. 03-confused I was just arguing against playing 2 a year, which our attendance peers (NDSU, Montana, formerly UD), never do.
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RE: 2nd FBS game to offset covid revenue loss
(11-21-2020 01:51 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 02:12 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 01:40 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 09:32 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(11-16-2020 04:40 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Everything you have stated is the truth. With that said, our path in 2004 was far more satisfying at the conclusion of each game than were the other paths taken. Certainly taking down the Bison in Fargo was the single most satisfying game, and the home game against Weber was a nail biter the following year, but the road we had to take to Chattanooga will forever be hard to beat. I could care less about scheduling an easy path to the championship game.

I don’t think this conversation is about scheduling an easy path. What we are discussing is the entertainment value of watching JMU football as fans. The home playoff games have become the most entertaining games of the season in recent years and we can all get to them. Going to Fargo and winning was an incredible experience but a once in a lifetime one. If I go there every year, it becomes a different experience.

If JMU remains FCS, the goal is to make and win in the playoffs along with hosting as many games as possible. 2004s playoff journey is a great memory too and was incredibly rewarding. It was JMUs first NC. The program had less than a handful of playoff wins prior to that season. I feel these things added to the experience of that run. If it happens again, will it mean as much?

If JMU remains FCS, then giving up home playoff games to play an additional FBS game is a bad trade off IMO.
Yep. While JMU should move up, as long as are FCS, the bolded is true.

For you and many others that is correct.

For me and many others - if not FBS, than at the very minimal have OOC games against FBS competition. Let's face it - right now - There's NDSU, then JMU, then the others in FCS. We should not play Norfolk State in order to give us a better shot at a seeding in the playoffs. There are 50 FBS schools we could play and be favored on a neutral field. Play one each year, even if the amount they pay us is minimal.
Where did I say shouldn't play 1 FBS game a year. 03-confused I was just arguing against playing 2 a year, which our attendance peers (NDSU, Montana, formerly UD), never do.

Your facts are spot on, but I really couldn't give a crap what NDSU and Montana do, or any other team for that matter. Our geographic advantage of finding someone a bus ride away to play better competition is enormous compared to those two schools. Neither of them can pick up the phone and call 25% of the schools we can. To not accept the reality of who we are is simply choosing to to be short sighted.
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RE: 2nd FBS game to offset covid revenue loss
(11-19-2020 10:14 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Some pretty good takes so far on Alger’s decision to pull the plug on Fall sports.
It seems like JMU should be in the 141 teams that aren’t sitting on the sideline.
Also, they may have picked up additional FBS opportunities as games were cancelled last minute like other teams took advantage of the situation.

UNC was ready to play Sept 19th so the only roadbump would have been if JMU bailed last minute due to COVID just like Charlotte did After taking JMU’s spot. The numbers indicate over 80% of the games have been played as scheduled which is a pretty strong majority and good odds for playing games once contracted.
Perhaps JMU could have also gotten last minute games against some of these Teams that lost their opponent due to COVID quarantines... ( and they still could have played the potential Spring season as well )

Marshall
Houston
SMU
Baylor
Army
Ga Southern
Georgia State
South FLA
Wake Forest
Southern Miss
Cincinnati
Oklahoma State
Navy
Virginia
Georgia Tech
And many others.

We definitely have a permissive culture at JMU with No accountability for Alger when it comes to his decisions on athletics.
We’ll see what happens with hoops. It is possible he could pull the plug on Winter sports too.

You're delusional. If there is an NCAA tournament this year, and the CAA is playing hoops there is no way "Alger pulls the plug" on winter sports. JMU needs athletics to compete and be successful in order to keep the University relevant. We have a better chance of cancelling spring football than we do Basketball.
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RE: 2nd FBS game to offset covid revenue loss
(11-23-2020 09:03 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 10:14 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Some pretty good takes so far on Alger’s decision to pull the plug on Fall sports.
It seems like JMU should be in the 141 teams that aren’t sitting on the sideline.
Also, they may have picked up additional FBS opportunities as games were cancelled last minute like other teams took advantage of the situation.

UNC was ready to play Sept 19th so the only roadbump would have been if JMU bailed last minute due to COVID just like Charlotte did After taking JMU’s spot. The numbers indicate over 80% of the games have been played as scheduled which is a pretty strong majority and good odds for playing games once contracted.
Perhaps JMU could have also gotten last minute games against some of these Teams that lost their opponent due to COVID quarantines... ( and they still could have played the potential Spring season as well )

Marshall
Houston
SMU
Baylor
Army
Ga Southern
Georgia State
South FLA
Wake Forest
Southern Miss
Cincinnati
Oklahoma State
Navy
Virginia
Georgia Tech
And many others.

We definitely have a permissive culture at JMU with No accountability for Alger when it comes to his decisions on athletics.
We’ll see what happens with hoops. It is possible he could pull the plug on Winter sports too.

You're delusional. If there is an NCAA tournament this year, and the CAA is playing hoops there is no way "Alger pulls the plug" on winter sports. JMU needs athletics to compete and be successful in order to keep the University relevant. We have a better chance of cancelling spring football than we do Basketball.

I can't see us cancelling Spring FB either, but I can see Spring FB not happening (due to nothing we do or don't do).
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