This is a question I think is worthy of discussion. In future elections do you think the Democrats will react to a Republican president the same way they reacted to four years of Trump? Will this be the new standard for all Republicans or was this only about Trump?

(11-08-2020 05:39 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  This is a question I think is worthy of discussion. In future elections do you think the Democrats will react to a Republican president the same way they reacted to four years of Trump? Will this be the new standard for all Republicans or was this only about Trump?

You forget how they treated W in 2000 it was only slightly better in 2004. Dems forget this is NOT a democracy it is a representative republic. It is a Republic by design so all states would have a say in who is president. IF dems are serious, change they way electoral votes are awarded, basing it on congressional districts won by each presidential candidate. This gets closer to a popular vote but keeps the election nationwide not just an election controlled by the 10 largest cities.

It's all Republicans. You think they were nice to Bush? And now we have social media.

it didnt matter who we ran. They have always disparaged any conservative president as a uncaring racist who wants dirty air and water---just looking for a chance to push grandma over a cliff. Its the standard democrat trope for any Republican. The only difference this time is Trumps "drain the swamp" outsider status caused a unprecedented level of active resistance within the fat and happy moderately corrupt government bureaucracy (bureaucracies are always prone to protecting the status quo).

(11-08-2020 05:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  it didnt matter who we ran. They have always disparaged them as racist, uncaring, people who want dirty air and water---just looking for a chance to push grandma over a cliff. Its the standard democrat trope for any Republican. The only difference this time is Trumps "drain the swamp" outsider status caused a unprecedented level of active resistance within the fat and happy moderately corrupt government bureaucracy (bureaucracies are always prone to protecting the status quo).

^^^^^ Ditto this^^^^

Romney was a womanizing racist, McCain was racist.

I've thought for 4 years I've seen this exact same game under W Bush. The Dems & MSM treatment of & reaction to to Trump is NOT new. Do not kid yourself.

I'd even argue it was worse under W, social media just wasn't as big then

(11-08-2020 05:53 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I've thought for 4 years I've seen this exact same game under W Bush. The Dems treatment/reaction to Trump is NOT new.

What was new was because of Trump's outsider status, the deep state players got involved, along with all the usual players.

I don’t believe party has anything to do with the way social media devours anyone they label an enemy. What I think we’ll see is infighting in the Democratic Party for the next four years. They united against Trump, without the common goal of defeating him, I doubt you’ll see them working together.
I don’t believe the Democrats will do a very good job managing the peace. The Progressives are going to want to drag the party closer to Socialism while those only Left of Center stand against it. Don’t be surprised if you start hearing the Bernie Bros whining because they aren’t getting all the free stuff they were promised. AOC is already moaning.
If nothing the next two years are going to be interesting.

I guess the riots were new. I didn't see those under W, so there's that. Probably harder to organize w/out social media

(11-08-2020 05:39 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  This is a question I think is worthy of discussion. In future elections do you think the Democrats will react to a Republican president the same way they reacted to four years of Trump? Will this be the new standard for all Republicans or was this only about Trump?

They treated George HW and George W the same way. They just didn't have full control of the media then and left the really nasty stuff to Stingell and guys like that. Now Pelosi and Shumer do it.

They DO hate Trump even more than HW and W, but not by that much.

It's as bad as 2000 and 2004 when W was absolutely vilified.
It's just amplified because of social media.

(11-08-2020 05:39 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  This is a question I think is worthy of discussion. In future elections do you think the Democrats will react to a Republican president the same way they reacted to four years of Trump? Will this be the new standard for all Republicans or was this only about Trump?

No. I doubt seriously we will ever have another Trump. He is one of a kind.

when you start thinking everybody is out to get you it’s time to consider that maybe they’re not the problem... then go take a long look in the mirror

Quote:Nothing has changed since Friday night.

You might find that strange, given the media stampede to certify the election results for their man, but it’s crucial. The calls made Saturday morning are as arbitrary as they were last Tuesday, could just as easily have waited for Monday, and fly in the face of massive evidence of voter irregularities that, at minimum, should be heard in court before anyone considers calling the election.

Add pending lawsuits and official recounts in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin, and the conclusion is an attempt by the American media to pick our president and decide our election. The danger comes now, when in concert with Silicon Valley censors they use their own decree to dismiss and silence anyone who says otherwise.

For large swaths of the corporate media, the work to elect a Democratic president never ended. From before he even took office, attempts to delegitimize President Donald Trump’s administration employed tools ranging from innuendo to foreign disinformation, and from partisan conspiracies to laughably labeled “anonymous senior officials.” They did not stop Tuesday, holding calls on Republican wins like Florida for hours, and North Carolina for days, while recklessly rushing calls on states like Arizona for Team Blue.

Since Election Day itself, the irregularities have piled up. There were quick and continuing examples of Democratic Pennsylvanian cities illegally barring Republican poll watchers from watching polls from even as far as six feet away. There are multiple allegations of the long-dead voting in 2020. And on Friday, evidence was released that vote-counting software Dominion Voting Systems switched thousands of votes from Trump to former Vice President Joe Biden in just one county. While this software was rejected three times by the Texas election board for noticeable security vulnerabilities, it was used across Georgia and Michigan—two of the states subject to Republican lawsuits and, in Georgia, a recount.

None of this is proof the Democrats didn’t win the election, even if it strongly suggests illegal and undemocratic activity in states across the union. But it is a naked corporate attempt to exert control over what is happening in the United States. If just one thing, remember this: Corporations don’t get to pick our president—and they don’t decide our elections.

Donald Trump’s entire presidency is an affront to the media. His victory was an assertion that they are not in charge, we are. That’s why they hate him; that’s why they have to destroy him; and that’s what this power grab is about. It isn’t an election result, it is media elites reminding the people who is really in charge, and who gets to make the rules.

Nothing has changed since America went to bed Friday evening. There is a fight coming: After over a century of rule, the corruption of the big city Democratic machines will finally be examined in court. Every day, the media is going to call you crazy for demanding it.

Buckle up.

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I remember them treating W like garbage but it was nothing compared to what Trump has had to deal with.

Here's the difference between Trump and everyone else:

1) It was not beyond comprehension for W to beat Gore. It WAS beyond their comprehension for Trump to beat the hag.
2) W didn't criticize golden boy Clinton. Trump DID criticize golden boy Obama.
3) W put up with the MSM's crap. Trump called them out for what they are, incurring their poopstorm for 4 years.
4) Trump is an American. Dems are globalists.

I can't remember a Republican that hasn't been called a Nazi, fascist, racist, homophobe, sexist imperialist.

Bush, McCain, and Romney were treated like crap, Bush especially because he had the audacity to win

(11-08-2020 05:53 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I've thought for 4 years I've seen this exact same game under W Bush. The Dems & MSM treatment of & reaction to to Trump is NOT new. Do not kid yourself.

I'd even argue it was worse under W, social media just wasn't as big then

Yep, he wasn't getting the ugly response that Trump got on Google, Facepalm, Twatter. Not to forget the tv idiots that were all against Trump and weren't even hiding it. We had very little cable news outlets in Bush's time. If Bush was president during this time he would have been going through the same old crap even if Bush was a Globalist like his dad, things wouldn't have changed a bit. I don't think Bush would have been able to handle it like Trump did. Trump handled it because that was his nature and as a NYer he didn't shrink from it, he gave it as well as took it. Remember, that the Prog filth likes to dish it out but their feelings get hurt if you fight back.

The Democrats have that name for a reason, Demon Craps. They are Satans spawn, you can see it in the faces of his children aka rioters, looters, and murderers. They are what used to be called the "Unwashed".

(11-08-2020 07:06 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  when you start thinking everybody is out to get you it’s time to consider that maybe they’re not the problem... then go take a long look in the mirror

YOU should be watching other channels instead of The View and the Commie MSM. If you don't see it you shouldn't be administering drugs you might mess up a prescription, in other words, you have to be pretty blind not to see it or you just like to ignore it like the MSM did in Hunter's case. So don't play dumb unless you're not playing.

(11-08-2020 07:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 07:06 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  when you start thinking everybody is out to get you it’s time to consider that maybe they’re not the problem... then go take a long look in the mirror

YOU should be watching other channels instead of The View and the Commie MSM. If you don't see it you shouldn't be administering drugs you might mess up a prescription, in other words, you have to be pretty blind not to see it or you just like to ignore it like the MSM did in Hunter's case. So don't play dumb unless you're not playing.

I get my news from CSPAN, BBC, The Daily Memphian, The Commercial Appeal, and WMCTV Memphis.

I don't care about Hunter, his drug problem, or his delusions of power...he's not running for President.