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RE: Boise poster claiming that Boise to AAC is a done deal
Why does anyone have an issue with C. Austin Cox? He's the ultimate AAC fanboy. We need more people like him to prop the league up. Perception becomes reality.
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RE: Boise poster claiming that Boise to AAC is a done deal
(Yesterday 10:32 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Which poster on here is C. Austin Cox anyway? He claims to be a Cincinnati grad, but I've never heard of the guy until a couple years ago and most of his stuff is pumping up Memphis and some other schools in the AAC.

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RE: Boise poster claiming that Boise to AAC is a done deal
(12-01-2020 09:08 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
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(11-28-2020 10:57 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Jed, Jed, Jed....

Okay, I guess I have to re-post the content of post #410 that you selectively edited out. We were talking about conference controlled games and intra-conference games over 1,000,000 viewers. '15-'20 AAC had 53 conference controlled games over a million - Marshall and the rest of the CUSA 1. '15-'20 AAC had 23 intra-conference games over a million - Marshall and the rest of the CUSA 0. 53 to 1. 23 to 0.

Why not before 2015? Well, I'm a Navy fan. In addition to the question of how do you treat Navy games from before 2015, what credit do you give to Louisville, Rutgers, others who played with the AAC patch on their jerseys before leaving? I'll look at current AAC makeup to address the bowls later on, but not to re-create those regular seasons.

And I don't really have to anyway.
You listed 15 datapoints.

#13 and #15 were already included in my post #410.
Then you added a slew that moved the goalposts from a million down to 435,000. (I know you SAID you were counting 450k + but you listed two lower than your own changed arbitrary threshhold. Jed gotta Jed). I can't fathom why you picked that, but it goes along with your imaginary "Top 35" I guess. Anyway, let's take a look...
#2 was at VT - not conference controlled. I would add another 27 non-AAC-controlled games over a million from '15-'20, moving from a 53-1 advantage to 80-2...but this one wasn't even over a million...
#1, 4, 5, 7, 9, and 14 are conference controlled, even intra-conference games but under a million. How many would I add to lower the bar for AAC games? Well, in 2020 so far I count 8 AAC controlled games between 435K and one million. 6 in 2019, 7 in 2018. 53-1 turns into at least 74-6. Missing three years of 435k-1M and that's already more than 11-1, so below average of the AAC.

Your #3, 6, 8, 10, 11, and 12 are bowl games. I directly addressed four of the six in post #403. I'll paste that in and add a comparison to the bowl viewership of the current 11 AAC members in 2014 and 2013.
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In 2019, the Gasparilla Bowl vs Marshall was the dead last worst viewed AAC bowl. 2019 AAC bowls averaged 1.97 million viewers without Memphis' Cotton Bowl, 2.57 million with it.
In 2018, the Gasparilla Bowl vs Marshall was the dead last worst viewed AAC bowl. 2018 AAC bowls averaged 2.26 million without UCF's Fiesta Bowl, 3.299 million with the Fiesta.
In 2017 AAC bowls averaged 2.303 million viewers without UCF's Peach Bowl, 3.171 million with the Peach.
In 2016 AAC bowls averaged 2.145 million viewers.
In 2015 UConn's St Petersburg Bowl vs Marshall with 2.4 million viewers was the fourth best viewership of the AAC's eight bowls. Ahead of the 2.166 million viewer average without Houston's Peach Bowl. AAC bowls including the Peach averaged 2.596 million viewers.
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In 2014 Marshall NIU bowl drew 2.25 million viewers. The 11 current AAC members were in six bowls that year, averaging 2.76 million viewers
In 2013 Marshall Maryland bowl drew 2.58 million viewers. The 11 current AAC members were in six bowls that year, averaging 3.94 million viewers (five averaged 2.466 million IF you exclude UCF's Fiesta).
For the most part, bowl games are gonna get the audience that they're gonna get. A handful of blue-bloods will change a bowl game's numbers, e.g. Notre Dame in the Citrus Bowl jumping its ratings/viewership over non-semifinal NY6 games. Generally highly dependent on timeslot. More importantly, bowls are completely separate from the conference's media rights deal. But the bottom line on those six Marshall bowls, though, are that they don't prove any additive value.

You listed fifteen examples overall that do nothing to refute my points or advance the argument that Marshall - or any G4 of similar profile - would be a net add to the AAC.

You also added an extra-small note predicting that Marshall's CUSA CCG might get over one million viewers. First, we'll never know - it's on CBSSN. Second, no track record to say so - at least two of your long list of Marshall games failing to get over one million viewers were CUSA CCGs at 449k and 725k; that's OK, Boise's mwc CCGs rarely get over a million, just like all the other G4 CCGs. Which gets us to the third point - IF they got over a million, AAC CCG will probably get over 3 million, so it makes MY case, not yours.


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I almost went to look for the numbers and I was like nah, SLH already has them. As always an authoritative source on the the facts and figures.

I am sure that I am not the only one on this board who appreciates your accumulation of accurate data. It's useful and creates interesting comparisons to see the progress of the football side of the conference as we push to try and catch up with the A5.

Didn't I say something very similar about SLH not long ago and you gave me some **** about it? 04-cheers03-lmfao

He is the analytics master of AAC viewership.

Pretty sure not. I usually leave links to his post in these type threads if he doesn't show up and people are talking numbers. When I am really lazy I just tell people to search the board for them lol. I think I even did it in an earlier post in this thread when fanhoods VPN sock was just running off.

It's not just viewership, he tracks are records vs p5 and g5, attendance and recruiting some. His history on the entire conference is pretty solid too when it comes to football.

I know he doesn't check the basketball threads really but I'll toss in a bball shout out to Navy for playing quite well so far this year. Army is looking impressive as well. Might be a fun patriot league year.
I think he said "I trust slh and Pony" and you or someone else wanted to be short-listed, ha ha.

Since there is little point in talking about the Boise guy's info...

Patriot League hoops will be interesting. We're going pods - we have H&H Bucknell and H&H Lafayette, then H&H&H&H with Army, American, and Loyola. ALL of those are consecutive night H&Hs. WBB flipped from MBB.
COVID silver lining - we got previously unscheduled locals with GWU, Maryland, Mt St Mary's and Georgetown and went 3-1. (Morgan State and Delaware in Annapolis still to come). I'm more excited about Navy basketball than I typically am in December

If I’m honest Attack and gulfcoastgal are as solid as you with real info slh. That’s the shortlist.

I don’t see forever being added. Sorry buddy. 04-cheers
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RE: Boise poster claiming that Boise to AAC is a done deal
(Yesterday 11:56 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  Why does anyone have an issue with C. Austin Cox? He's the ultimate AAC fanboy. We need more people like him to prop the league up. Perception becomes reality.

Yeah I don't really get it either. Yes, he's a troll, but he seems to troll all the other conferences. He also jumps the gun on rumors without double-checking his sources. All that said, I've never seen him say anything bad about the AAC.
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RE: Boise poster claiming that Boise to AAC is a done deal
(Yesterday 03:07 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 09:08 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 08:53 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(11-28-2020 11:55 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(11-28-2020 12:24 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  [Image: tenor.gif?itemid=8631973]


I almost went to look for the numbers and I was like nah, SLH already has them. As always an authoritative source on the the facts and figures.

I am sure that I am not the only one on this board who appreciates your accumulation of accurate data. It's useful and creates interesting comparisons to see the progress of the football side of the conference as we push to try and catch up with the A5.

Didn't I say something very similar about SLH not long ago and you gave me some **** about it? 04-cheers03-lmfao

He is the analytics master of AAC viewership.

Pretty sure not. I usually leave links to his post in these type threads if he doesn't show up and people are talking numbers. When I am really lazy I just tell people to search the board for them lol. I think I even did it in an earlier post in this thread when fanhoods VPN sock was just running off.

It's not just viewership, he tracks are records vs p5 and g5, attendance and recruiting some. His history on the entire conference is pretty solid too when it comes to football.

I know he doesn't check the basketball threads really but I'll toss in a bball shout out to Navy for playing quite well so far this year. Army is looking impressive as well. Might be a fun patriot league year.
I think he said "I trust slh and Pony" and you or someone else wanted to be short-listed, ha ha.

Since there is little point in talking about the Boise guy's info...

Patriot League hoops will be interesting. We're going pods - we have H&H Bucknell and H&H Lafayette, then H&H&H&H with Army, American, and Loyola. ALL of those are consecutive night H&Hs. WBB flipped from MBB.
COVID silver lining - we got previously unscheduled locals with GWU, Maryland, Mt St Mary's and Georgetown and went 3-1. (Morgan State and Delaware in Annapolis still to come). I'm more excited about Navy basketball than I typically am in December

If I’m honest Attack and gulfcoastgal are as solid as you with real info slh. That’s the shortlist.

I don’t see forever being added. Sorry buddy. 04-cheers

Ah, yes it was Attackcoog, not Pony94
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RE: Boise poster claiming that Boise to AAC is a done deal
(Yesterday 03:58 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:07 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 09:08 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 08:53 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(11-28-2020 11:55 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  Didn't I say something very similar about SLH not long ago and you gave me some **** about it? 04-cheers03-lmfao

He is the analytics master of AAC viewership.

Pretty sure not. I usually leave links to his post in these type threads if he doesn't show up and people are talking numbers. When I am really lazy I just tell people to search the board for them lol. I think I even did it in an earlier post in this thread when fanhoods VPN sock was just running off.

It's not just viewership, he tracks are records vs p5 and g5, attendance and recruiting some. His history on the entire conference is pretty solid too when it comes to football.

I know he doesn't check the basketball threads really but I'll toss in a bball shout out to Navy for playing quite well so far this year. Army is looking impressive as well. Might be a fun patriot league year.
I think he said "I trust slh and Pony" and you or someone else wanted to be short-listed, ha ha.

Since there is little point in talking about the Boise guy's info...

Patriot League hoops will be interesting. We're going pods - we have H&H Bucknell and H&H Lafayette, then H&H&H&H with Army, American, and Loyola. ALL of those are consecutive night H&Hs. WBB flipped from MBB.
COVID silver lining - we got previously unscheduled locals with GWU, Maryland, Mt St Mary's and Georgetown and went 3-1. (Morgan State and Delaware in Annapolis still to come). I'm more excited about Navy basketball than I typically am in December

If I’m honest Attack and gulfcoastgal are as solid as you with real info slh. That’s the shortlist.

I don’t see forever being added. Sorry buddy. 04-cheers

Ah, yes it was Attackcoog, not Pony94

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RE: Boise poster claiming that Boise to AAC is a done deal
(Yesterday 04:50 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:58 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:07 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 09:08 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 08:53 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Pretty sure not. I usually leave links to his post in these type threads if he doesn't show up and people are talking numbers. When I am really lazy I just tell people to search the board for them lol. I think I even did it in an earlier post in this thread when fanhoods VPN sock was just running off.

It's not just viewership, he tracks are records vs p5 and g5, attendance and recruiting some. His history on the entire conference is pretty solid too when it comes to football.

I know he doesn't check the basketball threads really but I'll toss in a bball shout out to Navy for playing quite well so far this year. Army is looking impressive as well. Might be a fun patriot league year.
I think he said "I trust slh and Pony" and you or someone else wanted to be short-listed, ha ha.

Since there is little point in talking about the Boise guy's info...

Patriot League hoops will be interesting. We're going pods - we have H&H Bucknell and H&H Lafayette, then H&H&H&H with Army, American, and Loyola. ALL of those are consecutive night H&Hs. WBB flipped from MBB.
COVID silver lining - we got previously unscheduled locals with GWU, Maryland, Mt St Mary's and Georgetown and went 3-1. (Morgan State and Delaware in Annapolis still to come). I'm more excited about Navy basketball than I typically am in December

If I’m honest Attack and gulfcoastgal are as solid as you with real info slh. That’s the shortlist.

I don’t see forever being added. Sorry buddy. 04-cheers

Ah, yes it was Attackcoog, not Pony94

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RE: Boise poster claiming that Boise to AAC is a done deal
(Yesterday 10:32 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Which poster on here is C. Austin Cox anyway? He claims to be a Cincinnati grad, but I've never heard of the guy until a couple years ago and most of his stuff is pumping up Memphis and some other schools in the AAC.

He covered the big Xii for a while, so he has some Texas media connections that I think he gets half of it from, the other half seems to be from memphis people. He isn't terrible if you don't take him too serious. Every top level has that one media guy, he's becoming the AAC's.

I think of it as another sign we are more like the p5 than the g5, dedicated media. If you want real info the WSU beat writer is who to pay attention to, that guy is on top of stuff and very accurate.
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RE: Boise poster claiming that Boise to AAC is a done deal
(Yesterday 04:56 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:50 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:58 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:07 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 09:08 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I think he said "I trust slh and Pony" and you or someone else wanted to be short-listed, ha ha.

Since there is little point in talking about the Boise guy's info...

Patriot League hoops will be interesting. We're going pods - we have H&H Bucknell and H&H Lafayette, then H&H&H&H with Army, American, and Loyola. ALL of those are consecutive night H&Hs. WBB flipped from MBB.
COVID silver lining - we got previously unscheduled locals with GWU, Maryland, Mt St Mary's and Georgetown and went 3-1. (Morgan State and Delaware in Annapolis still to come). I'm more excited about Navy basketball than I typically am in December

If I’m honest Attack and gulfcoastgal are as solid as you with real info slh. That’s the shortlist.

I don’t see forever being added. Sorry buddy. 04-cheers

Ah, yes it was Attackcoog, not Pony94

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RE: Boise poster claiming that Boise to AAC is a done deal
(Yesterday 03:07 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 09:08 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 08:53 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(11-28-2020 11:55 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(11-28-2020 12:24 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  [Image: tenor.gif?itemid=8631973]


I almost went to look for the numbers and I was like nah, SLH already has them. As always an authoritative source on the the facts and figures.

I am sure that I am not the only one on this board who appreciates your accumulation of accurate data. It's useful and creates interesting comparisons to see the progress of the football side of the conference as we push to try and catch up with the A5.

Didn't I say something very similar about SLH not long ago and you gave me some **** about it? 04-cheers03-lmfao

He is the analytics master of AAC viewership.

Pretty sure not. I usually leave links to his post in these type threads if he doesn't show up and people are talking numbers. When I am really lazy I just tell people to search the board for them lol. I think I even did it in an earlier post in this thread when fanhoods VPN sock was just running off.

It's not just viewership, he tracks are records vs p5 and g5, attendance and recruiting some. His history on the entire conference is pretty solid too when it comes to football.

I know he doesn't check the basketball threads really but I'll toss in a bball shout out to Navy for playing quite well so far this year. Army is looking impressive as well. Might be a fun patriot league year.
I think he said "I trust slh and Pony" and you or someone else wanted to be short-listed, ha ha.

Since there is little point in talking about the Boise guy's info...

Patriot League hoops will be interesting. We're going pods - we have H&H Bucknell and H&H Lafayette, then H&H&H&H with Army, American, and Loyola. ALL of those are consecutive night H&Hs. WBB flipped from MBB.
COVID silver lining - we got previously unscheduled locals with GWU, Maryland, Mt St Mary's and Georgetown and went 3-1. (Morgan State and Delaware in Annapolis still to come). I'm more excited about Navy basketball than I typically am in December

If I’m honest Attack and gulfcoastgal are as solid as you with real info slh. That’s the shortlist.

I don’t see forever being added. Sorry buddy. 04-cheers

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(Yesterday 03:58 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:07 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 09:08 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-01-2020 08:53 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(11-28-2020 11:55 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  Didn't I say something very similar about SLH not long ago and you gave me some **** about it? 04-cheers03-lmfao

He is the analytics master of AAC viewership.

Pretty sure not. I usually leave links to his post in these type threads if he doesn't show up and people are talking numbers. When I am really lazy I just tell people to search the board for them lol. I think I even did it in an earlier post in this thread when fanhoods VPN sock was just running off.

It's not just viewership, he tracks are records vs p5 and g5, attendance and recruiting some. His history on the entire conference is pretty solid too when it comes to football.

I know he doesn't check the basketball threads really but I'll toss in a bball shout out to Navy for playing quite well so far this year. Army is looking impressive as well. Might be a fun patriot league year.
I think he said "I trust slh and Pony" and you or someone else wanted to be short-listed, ha ha.

Since there is little point in talking about the Boise guy's info...

Patriot League hoops will be interesting. We're going pods - we have H&H Bucknell and H&H Lafayette, then H&H&H&H with Army, American, and Loyola. ALL of those are consecutive night H&Hs. WBB flipped from MBB.
COVID silver lining - we got previously unscheduled locals with GWU, Maryland, Mt St Mary's and Georgetown and went 3-1. (Morgan State and Delaware in Annapolis still to come). I'm more excited about Navy basketball than I typically am in December

If I’m honest Attack and gulfcoastgal are as solid as you with real info slh. That’s the shortlist.

I don’t see forever being added. Sorry buddy. 04-cheers

Ah, yes it was Attackcoog, not Pony94

Pony’s a troll. COGS
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