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(11-03-2020 08:44 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(11-02-2020 10:30 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  He got bad advice for sure. Not playing last year creates more questions about his heart, desire to play, compete at a high level and leadership qualities.

He got bad advice in High School and in college before he was suspended but I am not sure the advice not to play was bad advice when he is predicted to be a top 3 pick.

Depends on your expectations. If you think you can play your way into a clear #1 pick, that's worth about $4M more (or 25% more) than going #3. That ain't nothing. And that's the contract alone, let alone endorsements that are much more readily available for the #1 pick.

But if your expectation is to go below #1 to begin with, then okay. Sit it out.
11-03-2020 12:08 PM
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(11-03-2020 12:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-03-2020 08:44 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(11-02-2020 10:30 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  He got bad advice for sure. Not playing last year creates more questions about his heart, desire to play, compete at a high level and leadership qualities.

He got bad advice in High School and in college before he was suspended but I am not sure the advice not to play was bad advice when he is predicted to be a top 3 pick.

Depends on your expectations. If you think you can play your way into a clear #1 pick, that's worth about $4M more (or 25% more) than going #3. That ain't nothing. And that's the contract alone, let alone endorsements that are much more readily available for the #1 pick.

But if your expectation is to go below #1 to begin with, then okay. Sit it out.

Edwards is predicted by many to go #1 and that is not based on his college performace...He didn't have a great year efficiency wise.
11-03-2020 01:09 PM
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(11-03-2020 01:09 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(11-03-2020 12:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-03-2020 08:44 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(11-02-2020 10:30 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  He got bad advice for sure. Not playing last year creates more questions about his heart, desire to play, compete at a high level and leadership qualities.

He got bad advice in High School and in college before he was suspended but I am not sure the advice not to play was bad advice when he is predicted to be a top 3 pick.

Depends on your expectations. If you think you can play your way into a clear #1 pick, that's worth about $4M more (or 25% more) than going #3. That ain't nothing. And that's the contract alone, let alone endorsements that are much more readily available for the #1 pick.

But if your expectation is to go below #1 to begin with, then okay. Sit it out.

Edwards is predicted by many to go #1 and that is not based on his college performace...He didn't have a great year efficiency wise.

Maybe but most understand the talent around Edward's was brutal which hurt his efficiency.
11-03-2020 02:03 PM
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(11-03-2020 02:03 PM)dwash Wrote:  
(11-03-2020 01:09 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(11-03-2020 12:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-03-2020 08:44 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(11-02-2020 10:30 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  He got bad advice for sure. Not playing last year creates more questions about his heart, desire to play, compete at a high level and leadership qualities.

He got bad advice in High School and in college before he was suspended but I am not sure the advice not to play was bad advice when he is predicted to be a top 3 pick.

Depends on your expectations. If you think you can play your way into a clear #1 pick, that's worth about $4M more (or 25% more) than going #3. That ain't nothing. And that's the contract alone, let alone endorsements that are much more readily available for the #1 pick.

But if your expectation is to go below #1 to begin with, then okay. Sit it out.

Edwards is predicted by many to go #1 and that is not based on his college performace...He didn't have a great year efficiency wise.

Maybe but most understand the talent around Edward's was brutal which hurt his efficiency.

Agreed...

But it still boils down to the fact that he is being evaluated on his potential and not his performance.

Only guy I can think of that shot up the draft boards based on performance is Toppin
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TTOTYC
11-03-2020 02:21 PM
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(11-03-2020 01:09 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(11-03-2020 12:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-03-2020 08:44 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(11-02-2020 10:30 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  He got bad advice for sure. Not playing last year creates more questions about his heart, desire to play, compete at a high level and leadership qualities.

He got bad advice in High School and in college before he was suspended but I am not sure the advice not to play was bad advice when he is predicted to be a top 3 pick.

Depends on your expectations. If you think you can play your way into a clear #1 pick, that's worth about $4M more (or 25% more) than going #3. That ain't nothing. And that's the contract alone, let alone endorsements that are much more readily available for the #1 pick.

But if your expectation is to go below #1 to begin with, then okay. Sit it out.

Edwards is predicted by many to go #1 and that is not based on his college performace...He didn't have a great year efficiency wise.

Edwards scored 19+ per game as an 18-yr old. Led all freshmen in scoring - not even close. He proved he could play and was rewarded by it. He claimed the #1 projection with a big performance in a Thanksgiving tourney last year (Maui?).

For sure, his potential is the biggest driver. But he legitimized it with a year of competitive ball. Could Wiseman have locked down #1 by absolutely dominating the game all year? Possibly. But yeah, #3 is a good spot. He minimized his risk and still got a good payout.
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If he drops to 9 he'll be a wizard, they're more excited about the Dude than the were with Kame Brown
11-05-2020 01:10 PM
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espn nba mock draft show last night

#2 wiseman
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(11-02-2020 10:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I'd love to see him get buried in Cleveland or Detroit. NBADraft.net has him going 9th. I can't see him dropping that much. I hope he does.

So hostile
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I Hope he goes to Golden state so he only has to be a great rookie and he can get a ring.
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(11-12-2020 10:41 PM)tigergeorge55 Wrote:  I Hope he goes to Golden state so he only has to be a great rookie and he can get a ring.
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Golden State ain't going to be nowhere near close enough to even sniff at a ring this next season.
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(11-12-2020 10:57 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 10:41 PM)tigergeorge55 Wrote:  I Hope he goes to Golden state so he only has to be a great rookie and he can get a ring.
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Golden State ain't going to be nowhere near close enough to even sniff at a ring this next season.

I hope you are right...But if Klay comes back 100% they will be formidable.
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(11-12-2020 12:39 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(11-02-2020 10:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I'd love to see him get buried in Cleveland or Detroit. NBADraft.net has him going 9th. I can't see him dropping that much. I hope he does.

So hostile

Hostile and pathetic.
11-13-2020 11:27 AM
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(11-12-2020 10:41 PM)tigergeorge55 Wrote:  I Hope he goes to Golden state so he only has to be a great rookie and he can get a ring.
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I agree. Not many 7 footers that can run the floor like him.
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