RE: Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
(11-02-2020 02:56 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote: A ton of presidential elections aren't called on election night. Why has this suddenly become a thing where we don't want to keep counting votes past Nov 3rd?
You can only really call it early if it is an obvious blowout and mathematically impossible for the other candidate to win, or the other candidate concedes because there is such a low chance of them winning. Assuming ballots were submitted correctly and post marked on time: they should be counted.
Well the last one hillary was black out drunk and wouldnt concede....but it was called. I dont recall a ton not being called.
Dems will try to see how many votes they need to win then drag it out by filling them out or finding them in trunks of cars.
(This post was last modified: 11-02-2020 03:09 PM by shere khan.)
RE: Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
(11-02-2020 02:56 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote: A ton of presidential elections aren't called on election night. Why has this suddenly become a thing where we don't want to keep counting votes past Nov 3rd?
You can only really call it early if it is an obvious blowout and mathematically impossible for the other candidate to win, or the other candidate concedes because there is such a low chance of them winning. Assuming ballots were submitted correctly and post marked on time: they should be counted.
I dont think anyone has an issue if it takes several days to get all the properly cast votes totaled. The problem I see is counting votes that were cast AFTER Nov 3rd. We've never done that. The polls have always closed at the appointed time and unless you were in line prior to that time--you were no longer allowed to cast a vote. If its not postmarked by Nov-3rd---I dont think we should be counting it. Everyone has known for a year what date the polls closed. Everyone has had over a week of early voting opportunities including ballots mailed to your home. If you didnt vote by 7pm November 3rd--thats not because you didnt have ample opportunities to vote--its because you simply failed to take the time to do it.
(This post was last modified: 11-02-2020 03:13 PM by Attackcoog.)
RE: Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
So I got two texts from two very good friends that I've had since I was young. Both are staunch democrats, but they do their best to hear me out and I them. One specifically asked "how much do your religious views play into my voting." I told him 0% because they don't. My priorities for what governs my choice of electing a President focus on domestic economic policy, foreign relations economic policies, domestic law and order, and finally... foreign policy from a national defense lense. The rest is cannon fodder for the masses. Getting all worked up about social justice issues just doesn't do anything for me. All that stuff is litigated and decided by the courts anyways. The media and campaigns just use those as tools to get people to the voting booth. The 2nd message I received concerned a "I think your boy Trump will win re-election and it's a very concerning viewpoint that 50-60% of Americans want to go back to the 1950s and 1960s."
It's very easy to see what's happening, if you read between the lines of their text. They're looking for "groups" of people to blame for what they think will be a Trump win. The first friend is looking to blame the church for conservatives. The 2nd friend is looking to blame white Americans and paint them all as racists if Trump wins. Why? Because those are the segments of the population that the media has been looking the cast blame on. What concerns me about these texts, is that they come from two of my closest friends in my lifetime. They weren't outright, vicious attacks on me... but it sets the stage for what they see in me to find fault and "fix" somehow. I'm a student of history. I was a history major in college. I know full well what this kind of mentality is doing, and the role the media plays in it.
Folks, if Trump wins re-election (whether it's tomorrow night, 3 weeks from now or 3 months from now like it was for GWB in 2000) we are hitting some very dangerous benchmarks for acceptable behaviors of those who don't like President Trump. I hate sounding like "this might be it", but after the last 3 years and especially the last 6-7 months... I'm not optimistic about what's coming.
RE: Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
(11-02-2020 03:29 PM)banker Wrote:
(11-02-2020 02:32 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(11-02-2020 02:19 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:
(11-02-2020 02:11 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:
17 battleground states
LULZ
Utah is in PLAY!
Really funny thing about that tweet - republicans historically do better than 60% of in person voting. He’s admitting likely defeat.
hahahaha I didnt even see that in her tweet. Yea, if she believes its going to be 60/40 for republicans on any election, she's dreaming. But in this cycle, when dems said they were going to early vote by more than 80%, they are going to be waaaaaay short.
Its one reason why dems need to be able to keep counting ballots that come in waaaaaay after tomorrow.
RE: Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
(11-02-2020 03:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(11-02-2020 02:56 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote: A ton of presidential elections aren't called on election night. Why has this suddenly become a thing where we don't want to keep counting votes past Nov 3rd?
You can only really call it early if it is an obvious blowout and mathematically impossible for the other candidate to win, or the other candidate concedes because there is such a low chance of them winning. Assuming ballots were submitted correctly and post marked on time: they should be counted.
I dont think anyone has an issue if it takes several days to get all the properly cast votes totaled. The problem I see is counting votes that were cast AFTER Nov 3rd. We've never done that. The polls have always closed at the appointed time and unless you were in line prior to that time--you were no longer allowed to cast a vote. If its not postmarked by Nov-3rd---I dont think we should be counting it. Everyone has known for a year what date the polls closed. Everyone has had over a week of early voting opportunities including ballots mailed to your home. If you didnt vote by 7pm November 3rd--thats not because you didnt have ample opportunities to vote--its because you simply failed to take the time to do it.
I completely agree with you here.
Problem is, there are some states that won't count ballots that arrive after Nov. 3rd. So if you mailed your vote on Oct. 28th, yet for some reason or another, it doesn't arrive on time, it doesn't count.
RE: Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
(11-02-2020 03:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(11-02-2020 02:56 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote: A ton of presidential elections aren't called on election night. Why has this suddenly become a thing where we don't want to keep counting votes past Nov 3rd?
You can only really call it early if it is an obvious blowout and mathematically impossible for the other candidate to win, or the other candidate concedes because there is such a low chance of them winning. Assuming ballots were submitted correctly and post marked on time: they should be counted.
I dont think anyone has an issue if it takes several days to get all the properly cast votes totaled. The problem I see is counting votes that were cast AFTER Nov 3rd. We've never done that. The polls have always closed at the appointed time and unless you were in line prior to that time--you were no longer allowed to cast a vote. If its not postmarked by Nov-3rd---I dont think we should be counting it. Everyone has known for a year what date the polls closed. Everyone has had over a week of early voting opportunities including ballots mailed to your home. If you didnt vote by 7pm November 3rd--thats not because you didnt have ample opportunities to vote--its because you simply failed to take the time to do it.
I don't know many people, Democrat or Republican, who have a problem with the deadline being the deadline for voting. As long as you vote in person by Nov 3rd or your mail in ballot is postmarked by Nov 3rd, it should be counted.
Trump has repeatedly stated he doesn't think votes should be counted past Nov 3rd and that we should know the election final the same night. He isn't referring to votes cast after election day. It seems he just doesn't think states should still be counting any votes after Tuesday night.
I mean you can guess or make your own assumptions on why he's pushing this narrative around. Obviously with Covid and the amount of people submitting mail-in ballots we're probably going to have multiple states still counting votes well after Tuesday, probably going into the weekend if I had to guess.
RE: Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
(11-02-2020 03:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(11-02-2020 02:56 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote: A ton of presidential elections aren't called on election night. Why has this suddenly become a thing where we don't want to keep counting votes past Nov 3rd?
You can only really call it early if it is an obvious blowout and mathematically impossible for the other candidate to win, or the other candidate concedes because there is such a low chance of them winning. Assuming ballots were submitted correctly and post marked on time: they should be counted.
I dont think anyone has an issue if it takes several days to get all the properly cast votes totaled. The problem I see is counting votes that were cast AFTER Nov 3rd. We've never done that. The polls have always closed at the appointed time and unless you were in line prior to that time--you were no longer allowed to cast a vote. If its not postmarked by Nov-3rd---I dont think we should be counting it. Everyone has known for a year what date the polls closed. Everyone has had over a week of early voting opportunities including ballots mailed to your home. If you didnt vote by 7pm November 3rd--thats not because you didnt have ample opportunities to vote--its because you simply failed to take the time to do it.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but everyone has known for 233 years+ what date the polls will close.
Absentee voting, mail-in voting, early voting, day of voting and now late voting. It's making a mockery of the entire system, but of course that's the intent.
RE: Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
(11-02-2020 03:32 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: Hannity said last night that 20% of the dems in Pennsylvania who requested ballots did not mail them back in.
They will get returned with no postmark or signature after Tuesday.
RE: Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
Trafalgar latest...
(They have Trump winning PA, NC, OH, AZ, & MI... with Biden winning NV. Their site is overloaded at the moment... but the last one I saw from them also had Biden winning MN and WI.)
RE: Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
(11-02-2020 03:29 PM)banker Wrote:
(11-02-2020 02:32 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(11-02-2020 02:19 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:
(11-02-2020 02:11 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:
17 battleground states
LULZ
Utah is in PLAY!
Really funny thing about that tweet - republicans historically do better than 60% of in person voting. He’s admitting likely defeat.
This. I can only assume he is assuming 100% party affiliation votes. If they only have 53% of the early vote in NC went to the Dems, NC is Trump's by a long way. Pennsylvania is a good majority Democrat and Trump won it last time. He gets Moderate working class Democrat votes, especially in early voting, because those folks don't have a candidate in their party. Those numbers tell me Trump is most likely to win ALL of those states because we were told Democrats would outnumber Republicans 2 to 1 in early voting and vice versa on Election day. I would not be surprised if Republicans outnumber Democrats 3 to 1 tomorrow because Democrat voters were told they would basically die one way or another if they showed up on election day. No wonder all Biden and Obama said all weekend was "Vote, please Vote". They know their early voting numbers are not even close to what they were projecting, and they know their supporters won't show up to stand in line in a crowd of "Chump Deplorables" on election day. Best thing that ever happened for Republicans were Democrats overplaying an chest cold.
RE: Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
(11-02-2020 03:57 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:
(11-02-2020 03:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(11-02-2020 02:56 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote: A ton of presidential elections aren't called on election night. Why has this suddenly become a thing where we don't want to keep counting votes past Nov 3rd?
You can only really call it early if it is an obvious blowout and mathematically impossible for the other candidate to win, or the other candidate concedes because there is such a low chance of them winning. Assuming ballots were submitted correctly and post marked on time: they should be counted.
I dont think anyone has an issue if it takes several days to get all the properly cast votes totaled. The problem I see is counting votes that were cast AFTER Nov 3rd. We've never done that. The polls have always closed at the appointed time and unless you were in line prior to that time--you were no longer allowed to cast a vote. If its not postmarked by Nov-3rd---I dont think we should be counting it. Everyone has known for a year what date the polls closed. Everyone has had over a week of early voting opportunities including ballots mailed to your home. If you didnt vote by 7pm November 3rd--thats not because you didnt have ample opportunities to vote--its because you simply failed to take the time to do it.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but everyone has known for 233 years+ what date the polls will close.
Absentee voting, mail-in voting, early voting, day of voting and now late voting. It's making a mockery of the entire system, but of course that's the intent.
its the same crap as muh voter id. always an excude and wiggle room to cheat.
im telling you, this is the kinda crap that starts civil wars.
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Biden campaign sees a loss tomorrow, begins prepping for stealing the election
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