(11-02-2020 04:01 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(11-02-2020 03:20 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  I have CHANGED MY POSITION ON THIS!!! Be it known, and let it go forth from this time and place, that I believe the Tulsa player re-established ball control momentarily, knee hit the ground, and then the ball came out.
-pharaoh OUT.

The key is it has to be indisputable to overturn. Even you having to change your mind means its disputable to you. If you you slow it down from one angle you can rationalize that conclusion but in real time it's clear he never regained control. The AAC wouldn't come out and own the blunder unless it was clear an obvious error. The bigger issue is the aggregate culpability of all the different calls that went against ECU in order to make it possible for Tulsa to win.

If the other calls were wrong too I think they would have said so. Be thankful you actually got them to respond and apologize after the blown review. Tulsa never got such respect after Navy '16, Houston '16, the SMU half-a-high-step, or even the "fumble" at Tulane after our player never even caught the ball (Tulane returned it for a TD).

OK guys. Let's give it a rest. Sh!t happens. Great game and ECU shows signs of life. Tulsa avoided the classic Trap Game. Onward.

(11-02-2020 08:47 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  It’s called Home Cooking and it happens all the time. Ever been to Fayetteville?

I don’t know but our Fayetteville will kick their Fayetteville’s ass and it wouldn’t even be close.

(11-02-2020 09:17 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(11-02-2020 08:47 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  It’s called Home Cooking and it happens all the time. Ever been to Fayetteville?

I don’t know but our Fayetteville will kick their Fayetteville’s ass and it wouldn’t even be close.

It is called Fayettenam for a reason. My buddy used to kick FGs for Fayetteville State.

SVP on Sports Center just said bad beats on the way, possibly the worst of the year. I wonder which game he's alluding to?

Edit: Now he just confirmed bad beats in the American (ECU vs Tulsa), stay tuned.

Not sure if anyone else caught that segment but that was good stuff. SVP & Stanford Steve broke it down better than anyone else could. Said ECU was the better team all night. 3 total BS calls on one drive. "The fix is on." "Refs get your head in the game." I'll shut up about this now but that was beyond ridiculous. Bad beats also included Cincy vs Memphis hitting the over.

BITTER PILL
ECU beats Tulsa, doesn't get credit for win

There are gut-wrenching and gut-punch losses in sports, and there is what happened to East Carolina’s football team on Friday night at Tulsa. It was like ECU absorbed a body blow delivered by Mike Tyson in his prime in 1988.

The Pirates led 30-27 during the final few minutes when three questionable calls by officials all went against them during Tulsa’s game-winning touchdown drive that never should have played out to its completion. The American Athletic Conference confirmed that Saturday with a statement acknowledging an officiating error on a fumble that was clearly forced and recovered by the Pirates and initially ruled correctly in real time, yet was reviewed, and the replay official incorrectly overturned the call for Tulsa to retain possession.

https://www.reflector.com/sports/college...581f9.html

ECU will either fold like a cheap suit or get mad & lay the wood against Tulane this weekend. Either way, Saturday will reveal lot about the direction of the program.

Tulsa’s win deserves an asterisk. I hope the refs do not cause Cincy to lose or lessen their margin of victory without merit.

(11-03-2020 06:16 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Tulsa’s win deserves an asterisk. I hope the refs do not cause Cincy to lose or lessen their margin of victory without merit.

How about they just do their jobs a bit f@@king better?

(11-02-2020 04:01 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(11-02-2020 03:20 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  I have CHANGED MY POSITION ON THIS!!! Be it known, and let it go forth from this time and place, that I believe the Tulsa player re-established ball control momentarily, knee hit the ground, and then the ball came out.
-pharaoh OUT.

The key is it has to be indisputable to overturn. Even you having to change your mind means its disputable to you. If you you slow it down from one angle you can rationalize that conclusion but in real time it's clear he never regained control. The AAC wouldn't come out and own the blunder unless it was clear an obvious error. The bigger issue is the aggregate culpability of all the different calls that went against ECU in order to make it possible for Tulsa to win.

HOW DARE YOU CONTRADICT PHARAOH!!! The name of ... what is his name, servant? ... ah, yes... Indiana Bones... shall be stricken... from all plaques... and breast plates... and lintels... and obelisks... and mail boxes... and party guest lists... and community message boards... and bridge overpasses...

Let the name of.... what was it again? ... ah yes, Indiana Bones... be spoken... no more.

Doesn't get any more heinous than this.

East Carolina fans may want to close their eyes for this Bad Beat | SC with SVP

Sorry dude. I agree that was probably a fumble, although I would make a case that it was not if I were a Tulsa fan. But that pass 4th down was a catch. I had only seen the still shot before. Now that I see the film, I see why it was a reception. He pinned the ball against his leg BEFORE the ball touched the ground. As long as he maintained control through the ground after that, that's a catch.

(11-03-2020 10:17 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Sorry dude. I agree that was probably a fumble, although I would make a case that it was not if I were a Tulsa fan. But that pass 4th down was a catch. I had only seen the still shot before. Now that I see the film, I see why it was a reception. He pinned the ball against his leg BEFORE the ball touched the ground. As long as he maintained control through the ground after that, that's a catch.

Yeah. That was confirmed.

Mike Aresco puts it on the record:

https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...156047011/

“We decided as a conference office that essentially the word would be man up and make a statement in admitting we were wrong,” Aresco said on Pirate Radio. “If you look at the video, it was ruled a fumble on the field and the ball was never really regained by the (ball-carrier). So we felt we had to do that. It’s unfortunate. There were a couple of other calls in that game that went against ECU. It was tough in that last drive, a couple ways they could’ve potentially won the game. You feel bad when that happens, but again, the game is over, and not much you can do. But as a conference, we should point out that’s how we felt.”

Aresco was asked if the replay official from the Tulsa game was let go or faced any punishment, but he would not address that situation.

“We don’t get into that, but we have processes to go through that,” Aresco said. “We hold our officials accountable, we absolutely do. We took a hard look at that one and took the appropriate steps. It was an issue we definitely dealt with.

“I watched it live and I watched a number of replays. We don’t usually issue a statement. In fact, in the almost nine years I’ve been doing this, not sure if we’ve even issued any statements or even had to. But in this case, we felt like it was an egregious situation because it was not a judgement call. We don’t talk about those, they happen. But we were concerned on that one because indisputable video evidence is the standard and consequently, we thought in this particular case it was pretty clear and pretty evident (they didn’t follow that guideline).”

(11-01-2020 01:28 AM)TigerJJ Wrote:  

(10-31-2020 08:05 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  Only one. That's more than most every other team in this league gets. Even Tulsa.

How do you think UCF won all of those games the last few years. It was better for the conference for them to win, therefore they won with some horrendous calls.

There it is

(11-02-2020 09:31 PM)B easy Wrote:  

(11-02-2020 09:17 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(11-02-2020 08:47 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  It’s called Home Cooking and it happens all the time. Ever been to Fayetteville?

I don’t know but our Fayetteville will kick their Fayetteville’s ass and it wouldn’t even be close.

It is called Fayettenam for a reason. My buddy used to kick FGs for Fayetteville State.

Get with the times B. Fayettenam was at least 6 conflicts ago. It is now Fayettestan.

(12-04-2020 10:22 AM)B easy Wrote:  Mike Aresco puts it on the record:

https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...156047011/

“We decided as a conference office that essentially the word would be man up and make a statement in admitting we were wrong,” Aresco said on Pirate Radio. “If you look at the video, it was ruled a fumble on the field and the ball was never really regained by the (ball-carrier). So we felt we had to do that. It’s unfortunate. There were a couple of other calls in that game that went against ECU. It was tough in that last drive, a couple ways they could’ve potentially won the game. You feel bad when that happens, but again, the game is over, and not much you can do. But as a conference, we should point out that’s how we felt.”

Aresco was asked if the replay official from the Tulsa game was let go or faced any punishment, but he would not address that situation.

“We don’t get into that, but we have processes to go through that,” Aresco said. “We hold our officials accountable, we absolutely do. We took a hard look at that one and took the appropriate steps. It was an issue we definitely dealt with.

“I watched it live and I watched a number of replays. We don’t usually issue a statement. In fact, in the almost nine years I’ve been doing this, not sure if we’ve even issued any statements or even had to. But in this case, we felt like it was an egregious situation because it was not a judgement call. We don’t talk about those, they happen. But we were concerned on that one because indisputable video evidence is the standard and consequently, we thought in this particular case it was pretty clear and pretty evident (they didn’t follow that guideline).”

@ Aresco - Joey Magnifico caught that football you sonofabitch...

Looked like a clean catch, it's a game on inches.