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(Yesterday 06:45 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  Today the AMA released a statement saying that the CDC’s Covid guidelines are confusing and need to be revised.

Another case of what us uneducated schleps have been saying for the last two years and getting criticized for doing so.

This is gaslighting. I criticized you for suggesting we could abolish the CDC. That's not the same as the (completely valid) criticism the CDC receives from health professionals, especially in regards to their public messaging.
 
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(Today 09:00 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  Also important to note about FL the choices are given to YOU. You want your kid to wear a mask at school? OK, no one stops you. School board mandates your kid wear a mask? Nope, not going to happen.

No, the government has decided that private entities can no longer mandate health restrictions for using their business. Schools have required vaccinations and other health requirements for ages. I've uploaded my immunization records to UC for 8 straight years now. By law they can rescind my enrollment for not doing so. That never happens because people have always recognized the value of medicine in protecting our public health, and the role that private entities play in instituting that change.

For instance, the Florida mandate that you mentioned has made it so hospitals are now limited in their ability to mandate masks for entry. Or vaccinations. We have ample data (read: proof) that these tools help reduce the burden of Covid on individuals and the broader public. Yet, the government is allowed to decide that hospitals can't use those tools to protect themselves (the business), their staff, and their patients? It's stupid, counterintuitive, anti-science, whatever you want to call it. DeSantis is supposedly a smart guy. That was a horrifically stupid decision.
 
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We're leading all developed nations in hospitalizations and deaths per millions of people. The good news is that cases are beginning to plateau and ICU capacity should go down soon too.
 
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Sounds like we’ve done a bang up job this past year.

35 times the deaths per million than India. Of course, they have widespread use of ivermectin. lol. The boogeyman of the covidians.

Or perhaps it’s just because we are a nation of fatsos and all the health problems that go hand in hand with obesity. Lots of low hanging fruit.
 
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(Today 12:57 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  [Image: 4Ea23hi.png]

Like, this is laughable. We're leading all developed nations in hospitalizations and deaths per millions of people.

I blame our president, he said he had a plan for covid but now we have far more weekly hospital admissions than we did in the second largest spike, and that was prior to us having widespread vaccine availability.
 
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(Today 01:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Sounds like we’ve done a bang up job this past year.

35 times the deaths per million than India. Of course, they have widespread use of ivermectin. lol. The boogeyman of the covidians.

Or perhaps it’s just because we are a nation of fatsos and all the health problems that go hand in hand with obesity. Lots of low hanging fruit.

You might be onto something...if only we were allowed to talk about obesity without the dangerous side effects of hurting peoples feelings. Below is a chart that just shows the US compared to Europe, which is the second fattest group on our planet.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share...Europe~USA

And here's the CDC saying that obesity triples your chance of hospitalization. Note, this doesn't include "overweight", just clinically obese. Obviously we have more overweight people also, and obviously they're at elevated risk from covid.

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity...id-19.html

So yeah, I think we do have the best healthcare in the world. We also have the unhealthiest population.

A whopping 36.2% of our population is obese. Europe is second at 23%. So a minimum of 13% of our population has an inherent 3-fold increase with their risk of hospitalization than the other developed countries that Cataclysmo referred to.

Instead of taxing tobacco even more maybe we should implement the sugar tax. If we're going to implement vaccine mandates to attend certain venues in the name of public health, perhaps we should mandate BMI mandates as well. You can't eat at McDonalds if your BMI is over x%.

I'll receive the response of "yeah but when you're obese you're only hurting yourself". Well, if you're unvaccinated you're only hurting yourself too right? The vaccinated still get covid, just at a reduced risk. But we are being told that the unvaccinated are filling up the hospitals. Aren't the obese doing the same? I'm sure there's a disproportionate percentage of obese in hospitals compared to healthy BMI people.

If the liberals are going to pump vaccine mandates, I assume they're also in favor of sugar taxes and BMI tests prior to buying junk food.
 
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Well, this is going to bum out the regular suspects:

Per The NY Times a CDC study admitted what many have said for a year plus.

Now according to the CDC, natural immunity from prior infection grants stronger levels of protection against the Delta variant than vaccines alone.

My shocked face….

Once again, the difference between anti science “conspiracy theories” and actual admitted fact is about 6-9 months.
 
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