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RE: Pope Francis, in Shift for Church, Voices Support for Same-Sex Civil Unions
(10-21-2020 09:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(10-21-2020 08:50 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  So let me see if I understand what most of you posting in this thread are saying...

if two men or two women want to live their life as a couple you are against them having the same right under the law as a man and woman living together? Both are not married.

I fully understand most of you see this as a sin but there's not a person on this board that's not sinning once a week if not every day they wake up.

A civil union is a legal term to protect each others rights and has nothing to do with what those people do behind closed doors. I dont care if your belief see's it as a sin, in American, every person should be entitled to the same rights as all US citizens.

A civil union is basically a legal contract between two people and the church and government should stay the hell out of it. Of course both should stay the hell out of a lot of things. But they dont. The Government more so than the church because a lot of this country invite the church into their life. But that's where it should end...to those that do invite it into their life.


As you can probably tell, I personally dont give a **** what two consenting adult want to do with their life. As long as they dont push it onto my life and dont expect special laws or treatment. If you want to be equal as a person...then be equal.

Gays can do all of that with a will and a living will. All of the first World has allowed gay marriage. Nobody has rioted and burned downed buildings over gay marriage. People are now rioting and burning downing buildings because White people actually exist on Planet Earth. Geez people call for whites to be genocided daily, no other race or ethnic group is subjected to this.

Quite the victim. As another victimized white guy...pm me I’ll send you food.
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RE: Pope Francis, in Shift for Church, Voices Support for Same-Sex Civil Unions
(10-22-2020 12:01 AM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  Not Catholic and not really religious but what they are probably saying is:

The Pope shouldn't be PONTIFICATING on gay unions at all. He's the freaking Pope, leader off a religion that considers homosexuality a sin.

This ^^^^^
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RE: Pope Francis, in Shift for Church, Voices Support for Same-Sex Civil Unions
I'm not catholic and have always looked at popes like I do the british royalty... as just a figurehead with no bearing on real life.

Now shame on this pope for being a miserable failure, but catholics everywhere can make their own choices and some guy over in the vatican does not speak for them. The pope does not stand between you and Jesus.
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Pope Francis, in Shift for Church, Voices Support for Same-Sex Civil Unions
Sounds like a person opinion on a state matter. This represents no shift in church teaching.


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RE: Pope Francis, in Shift for Church, Voices Support for Same-Sex Civil Unions
Pope Francis has proven time and time again that he is not even a Christian. Whats far worse than even this is that he not only openly supports gay marriage, but that he actually tells gays they do not need Jesus for salvation.

There is no scenario under heaven where a Christian leader can tell millions, even billions of people like Gays, Muslims and atheists that they do not need Jesus for salvation or redemption to God. Anyone who does that has REJECTED the Gospel completely and deceived billions of people into rejecting the Gospel.

A born again Christian filled with The Holy Spirit is incapable of doing such a thing, only a man who has never truly believed and received the Holy Spirit will or can say such a thing.

POPE FRANCIS IS NOT A CHRISTIAN. He is an Antichrist figure, a wolf in sheeps clothing who will have the blood of billions of deceived people on his hands on judgment day. Woe to pope Francis when he stands before Christ and the Father on that day. He is going to pay a terrible, terrible eternal price and those that cheer him on are going to pay it with him.

"You will know them by their fruits"
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I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own....But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. - Jesus Christ, the Gospel of John, chapter 10
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RE: Pope Francis, in Shift for Church, Voices Support for Same-Sex Civil Unions
“Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.

He who enters by the door is a shepherd of the sheep. To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice.

A stranger they simply will not follow, but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.”
- Gospel of John, chapter 10


Those who follow Jesus and hear His voice KNOW pope Francis is a stranger, and antichrist, a wolf in sheeps clothing. They will NOT follow Him but will flee from him.

Francis is a liar, a deceiver and a destroyer. He leads the wicked to perdition, and those who follow and support him will follow him down into hell for all eternity.
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RE: Pope Francis, in Shift for Church, Voices Support for Same-Sex Civil Unions
(10-22-2020 09:45 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.

He who enters by the door is a shepherd of the sheep. To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice.

A stranger they simply will not follow, but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.”
- Gospel of John, chapter 10


Those who follow Jesus and hear His voice KNOW pope Francis is a stranger, and antichrist, a wolf in sheeps clothing. They will NOT follow Him but will flee from him.

Francis is a liar, a deceiver and a destroyer. He leads the wicked to perdition, and those who follow and support him will follow him down into hell for all eternity.

from the above scripture, I can easily extrapolate as follows...

Jesus = democrat leadership
Sheeple = democrats
Strangers = republicans

reverse the order and it works out the same...

#moreIrony
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RE: Pope Francis, in Shift for Church, Voices Support for Same-Sex Civil Unions
(10-22-2020 09:56 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(10-22-2020 09:45 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.

He who enters by the door is a shepherd of the sheep. To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice.

A stranger they simply will not follow, but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.”
- Gospel of John, chapter 10


Those who follow Jesus and hear His voice KNOW pope Francis is a stranger, and antichrist, a wolf in sheeps clothing. They will NOT follow Him but will flee from him.

Francis is a liar, a deceiver and a destroyer. He leads the wicked to perdition, and those who follow and support him will follow him down into hell for all eternity.

from the above scripture, I can easily extrapolate as follows...

Jesus = democrat leadership
Sheeple = democrats
Strangers = republicans

reverse the order and it works out the same...

#moreIrony


Only a person who actually WANTS to believe a lie to would be dumb enough to believe that scripture is talking about Republicans or democrats.

Even you (EVEN YOU stink) understand full well the verse is speaking of Jesus and His followers, not political parties. You are not deceiving anyone, you are not even deceiving yourself.

You know full well what that scripture says, and you understand it perfectly.
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RE: Pope Francis, in Shift for Church, Voices Support for Same-Sex Civil Unions
(10-22-2020 10:09 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(10-22-2020 09:56 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(10-22-2020 09:45 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.

He who enters by the door is a shepherd of the sheep. To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice.

A stranger they simply will not follow, but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.”
- Gospel of John, chapter 10


Those who follow Jesus and hear His voice KNOW pope Francis is a stranger, and antichrist, a wolf in sheeps clothing. They will NOT follow Him but will flee from him.

Francis is a liar, a deceiver and a destroyer. He leads the wicked to perdition, and those who follow and support him will follow him down into hell for all eternity.

from the above scripture, I can easily extrapolate as follows...

Jesus = democrat leadership
Sheeple = democrats
Strangers = republicans

reverse the order and it works out the same...

#moreIrony


Only a person who actually WANTS to believe a lie to would be dumb enough to believe that scripture is talking about Republicans or democrats.

Even you (EVEN YOU stink) understand full well the verse is speaking of Jesus and His followers, not political parties. You are not deceiving anyone, you are not even deceiving yourself.

You know full well what that scripture says, and you understand it perfectly.

in context, of course I do....however, like nostradamus/islam/any cult/politics/etc, interpretation can be skewed/manipulated based on culture within 'times'...

that's the point of "extrapolation"...those in control are pretty good at doing such over time....hence, today's version of the Pope...
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RE: Pope Francis, in Shift for Church, Voices Support for Same-Sex Civil Unions
(10-22-2020 10:51 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(10-22-2020 10:09 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(10-22-2020 09:56 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(10-22-2020 09:45 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.

He who enters by the door is a shepherd of the sheep. To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice.

A stranger they simply will not follow, but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.”
- Gospel of John, chapter 10


Those who follow Jesus and hear His voice KNOW pope Francis is a stranger, and antichrist, a wolf in sheeps clothing. They will NOT follow Him but will flee from him.

Francis is a liar, a deceiver and a destroyer. He leads the wicked to perdition, and those who follow and support him will follow him down into hell for all eternity.

from the above scripture, I can easily extrapolate as follows...

Jesus = democrat leadership
Sheeple = democrats
Strangers = republicans

reverse the order and it works out the same...

#moreIrony


Only a person who actually WANTS to believe a lie to would be dumb enough to believe that scripture is talking about Republicans or democrats.

Even you (EVEN YOU stink) understand full well the verse is speaking of Jesus and His followers, not political parties. You are not deceiving anyone, you are not even deceiving yourself.

You know full well what that scripture says, and you understand it perfectly.

in context, of course I do....however, like nostradamus/islam/any cult/politics/etc, interpretation can be skewed/manipulated based on culture within 'times'...

that's the point of "extrapolation"...those in control are pretty good at doing such over time....hence, today's version of the Pope...



Scripture like that is not open for interpretation, the text itself tells you who the shepherd is and who the sheep are.

Interpretation and just flat out lying are two dramatically different things. Anyone trying to twist that verse to say anything else is a liar. Plain and simple.

Francis is a liar, a deceiver and a destroyer who has rejected the Gospel and is not a follower of Jesus.
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