Kent State Golden Flashes

Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Thanks Ty Linder
Author Message
KSUforever Offline
Bench Warmer
*

Posts: 115
Joined: Aug 2019
Reputation: 0
I Root For: Kent State Univ
Location:
Post: #41
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
Did Hannah Kotlarek keep her job as the "swag" coordinator for football?
10-27-2020 07:15 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
axeme Offline
Sage
*

Posts: 19,284
Joined: May 2002
Reputation: 107
I Root For: hoops
Location: Location: Location:

Folding@NCAAbbsDonatorsCrappiesCrappiesCrappiesCrappiesCrappies
Post: #42
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
There is a vast supply of freelance play by play announcers always looking to pick up whatever college games they can, especially during the week. Some would do it for the bare minimum just to add it to their resumes and for the experience, especially ones looking to establish themselves in the sports broadcast business. Definitely a buyer’s market, especially this year.
10-27-2020 07:02 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Doc KSU Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 391
Joined: Mar 2005
Reputation: 0
I Root For: Kent State
Location: The South
Post: #43
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
(10-27-2020 07:02 PM)axeme Wrote:  There is a vast supply of freelance play by play announcers always looking to pick up whatever college games they can, especially during the week. Some would do it for the bare minimum just to add it to their resumes and for the experience, especially ones looking to establish themselves in the sports broadcast business. Definitely a buyer’s market, especially this year.

Then they should rehire Ty this way
10-27-2020 07:55 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
thanksjim Online
1st String
*

Posts: 2,448
Joined: Mar 2008
Reputation: 19
I Root For: KSU
Location:
Post: #44
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
(10-24-2020 04:19 PM)AlphaFlash Wrote:  I'd love to write a letter to the president or AD, but I'd get the canned response of "times are tough now, COVID, budget crunch, etc.. All of which are good. The fact that I can turn on a well broadcasted network and listen to an OSU game, but won't be able to listen to the team 15 minutes away is mind blowing. Plus the fact that we had a guy that naturally liked Kent State instead of someone being paid to like to Kent State.

Good luck writing to Joel. It's only been a few business days, but haven't even got a canned response back from him.
10-28-2020 08:45 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DavidCarducci Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 761
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 18
I Root For: Hiram & Kent St
Location:
Post: #45
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
(10-28-2020 08:45 AM)thanksjim Wrote:  
(10-24-2020 04:19 PM)AlphaFlash Wrote:  I'd love to write a letter to the president or AD, but I'd get the canned response of "times are tough now, COVID, budget crunch, etc.. All of which are good. The fact that I can turn on a well broadcasted network and listen to an OSU game, but won't be able to listen to the team 15 minutes away is mind blowing. Plus the fact that we had a guy that naturally liked Kent State instead of someone being paid to like to Kent State.

Good luck writing to Joel. It's only been a few business days, but haven't even got a canned response back from him.

According to people in the department, Joel has basically MIA for well over a month. Facilities like the field house and golf center have fallen into disrepair, and as of a couple of days ago, his voicemail has been consistently full. He doesn't call back coaches. I guess it has been difficult to reach him, even on important decisions.

His house sold, and movers were there last weekend, according to friends in the department.

So, where exactly is Joel? Has the king abdicated his throne?

In honor of Ty, who like me grew up loving Disney's Robin Hood (my favorite movie when I was a child in the 1970s)... The King of Kent State Athletics is more reminiscent of the cartoon Prince John.

Oodelally!
10-28-2020 07:59 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
bopol Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,122
Joined: May 2004
Reputation: 16
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #46
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
If Joel's abandoned his job, it seems like a good way to save a lot of money quickly by making sure he stops getting paychecks.
10-28-2020 09:04 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DavidCarducci Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 761
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 18
I Root For: Hiram & Kent St
Location:
Post: #47
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
(10-28-2020 09:04 PM)bopol Wrote:  If Joel's abandoned his job, it seems like a good way to save a lot of money quickly by making sure he stops getting paychecks.

Well, to be fair... he was hard to find when he was in the building during the years I was at the M.A.C. Center.

Most coaches have stories of how it was like pulling teeth to get him to sign off on approving schedules.

And then there are the legendary stories about how he stepped into Danny O'Banion's office three times during her entire tenure as head women's basketball coach. All head football coaches told similar stories until Lewis was hired... I have no idea what their relationship is like. My crossover time with Lewis was short.
10-28-2020 09:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
dannyb73 Offline
MAC CHAMPS
*

Posts: 5,574
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 66
I Root For: Mem & Kent St
Location: Memphis
Post: #48
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
You guys are some funny birds. Joel is at work. Has been there all along since the pandemic started (with the exception being when he was taking vacation).
10-29-2020 03:37 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
thanksjim Online
1st String
*

Posts: 2,448
Joined: Mar 2008
Reputation: 19
I Root For: KSU
Location:
Post: #49
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
(10-29-2020 03:37 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  You guys are some funny birds. Joel is at work. Has been there all along since the pandemic started (with the exception being when he was taking vacation).

You are right. He is working overtime to further alienate the fan base...
10-29-2020 05:28 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
thanksjim Online
1st String
*

Posts: 2,448
Joined: Mar 2008
Reputation: 19
I Root For: KSU
Location:
Post: #50
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
The Kent State Athletics page just posted a video of the 2019 Football season recap, with the broadcast calls from Ty Linder.....that's a great look.


Fire the guy, but still make videos using his voice.
10-29-2020 05:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DavidCarducci Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 761
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 18
I Root For: Hiram & Kent St
Location:
Post: #51
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
(10-29-2020 03:37 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  You guys are some funny birds. Joel is at work. Has been there all along since the pandemic started (with the exception being when he was taking vacation).

Not meant to be funny Danny... It's what coaches and staff are saying...

I worked with him. And he was MIA most of the time then.

I wish you would stop defending him. Again, he doesn't deserve it.
(This post was last modified: 10-29-2020 05:48 PM by DavidCarducci.)
10-29-2020 05:35 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
dannyb73 Offline
MAC CHAMPS
*

Posts: 5,574
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 66
I Root For: Mem & Kent St
Location: Memphis
Post: #52
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
(10-29-2020 05:35 PM)DavidCarducci Wrote:  
(10-29-2020 03:37 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  You guys are some funny birds. Joel is at work. Has been there all along since the pandemic started (with the exception being when he was taking vacation).

Not funny Danny... It's what coaches and staff are saying...

I worked with him. And he was MIA most of the time then.

I wish you would stop defending him. Again, he doesn't deserve it.

How is me reporting that Joel is at work defending him? Several were speculating maybe he is gone from KSU, that he's not at work. We communicated this afternoon and he is, in fact, at work.
10-29-2020 05:37 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DavidCarducci Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 761
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 18
I Root For: Hiram & Kent St
Location:
Post: #53
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
(10-29-2020 05:37 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(10-29-2020 05:35 PM)DavidCarducci Wrote:  
(10-29-2020 03:37 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  You guys are some funny birds. Joel is at work. Has been there all along since the pandemic started (with the exception being when he was taking vacation).

Not funny Danny... It's what coaches and staff are saying...

I worked with him. And he was MIA most of the time then.

I wish you would stop defending him. Again, he doesn't deserve it.

How is me reporting that Joel is at work defending him? Several were speculating maybe he is gone from KSU, that he's not at work. We communicated this afternoon and he is, in fact, at work.

"you guys are funny"... Seems kind of like a defense of Joel. I think contradicting anything anyone says that is negative about Joel is inherently a defense of him.

It is nice that Joel is communicating with you... Maybe he should call back some of his coaches.

I'm sure Joel wouldn't say anything to you that was negative about himself. I'm sure if he hasn't been responsive to phone calls, he wouldn't admit that to you. I'm sure you have known people who might have been "at work," but were either hiding out or not responding.

Think George Costanza with the New York Yankees.

Come on back to Kent and take a look at the once-beautiful Kent State Golf Facility. Talk to the coaches who are miserable and ignored. Then you might get the real story. You won't get it from Joel.

As I've said to you before, he deserves to be held accountable by you in the same way you held coaches accountable and called for them to be fired in the past. I was certainly more defensive of those coaches because I had good relationships with those people. I understand you consider yourself close to Joel, but don't let that blind you to what he is. He is a bad guy who has been bad for Kent State.
(This post was last modified: 10-29-2020 05:54 PM by DavidCarducci.)
10-29-2020 05:48 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Albert Flasher Online
Bench Warmer
*

Posts: 210
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 3
I Root For: Kent State
Location: Southeast PA
Post: #54
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
(10-29-2020 05:48 PM)DavidCarducci Wrote:  
(10-29-2020 05:37 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(10-29-2020 05:35 PM)DavidCarducci Wrote:  
(10-29-2020 03:37 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  You guys are some funny birds. Joel is at work. Has been there all along since the pandemic started (with the exception being when he was taking vacation).

Not funny Danny... It's what coaches and staff are saying...

I worked with him. And he was MIA most of the time then.

I wish you would stop defending him. Again, he doesn't deserve it.

How is me reporting that Joel is at work defending him? Several were speculating maybe he is gone from KSU, that he's not at work. We communicated this afternoon and he is, in fact, at work.

"you guys are funny"... Seems kind of like a defense of Joel. I think contradicting anything anyone says that is negative about Joel is inherently a defense of him.

It is nice that Joel is communicating with you... Maybe he should call back some of his coaches.

I'm sure Joel wouldn't say anything to you that was negative about himself. I'm sure if he hasn't been responsive to phone calls, he wouldn't admit that to you. I'm sure you have known people who might have been "at work," but were either hiding out or not responding.

Think George Costanza with the New York Yankees.

Come on back to Kent and take a look at the once-beautiful Kent State Golf Facility. Talk to the coaches who are miserable and ignored. Then you might get the real story. You won't get it from Joel.

As I've said to you before, he deserves to be held accountable by you in the same way you held coaches accountable and called for them to be fired in the past. I was certainly more defensive of those coaches because I had good relationships with those people. I understand you consider yourself close to Joel, but don't let that blind you to what he is. He is a bad guy who has been bad for Kent State.

To me, I am looking at this as objectively as possible. It does not concern me whether people on this board have a relationship with the AD, or how much time the AD is spending, or not spending, at the office.

The AD has a position of leadership & producer of results. The lack of transparency from the AD is frustrating & not acceptable. The AD needs to be a cheerleader in these difficult times, but we have silence instead. As opposed to the KSU president who has been very vocal & visible with the COVID pandemic.

And the issue of "return on investment" from the AD has been discussed many times before so no need to go there again.

We all know that being a KSU sports fan is frustrating, but still we hang in there.

#GoFlashes
10-29-2020 07:53 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
burden Online
All American
*

Posts: 4,389
Joined: Nov 2005
Reputation: 13
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #55
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
One thing I find frustrating is how long its taken to do all this. Anytime Ive been involved in layoffs there was an effort to do it quickly and get it over with and get the organization looking ahead and not waiting for the grim reaper to arrive. For example if Ty was getting laid off why didn’t it happen in April or May. I’m used to it happening within a week. I’m sure Universities would take more time but six months?? Get it over with.
(This post was last modified: 10-30-2020 05:57 PM by burden.)
10-30-2020 05:57 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DavidCarducci Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 761
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 18
I Root For: Hiram & Kent St
Location:
Post: #56
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
(10-30-2020 05:57 PM)burden Wrote:  One thing I find frustrating is how long its taken to do all this. Anytime Ive been involved in layoffs there was an effort to do it quickly and get it over with and get the organization looking ahead and not waiting for the grim reaper to arrive. For example if Ty was getting laid off why didn’t it happen in April or May. I’m used to it happening within a week. I’m sure Universities would take more time but six months?? Get it over with.

I agree...

And Kent State Athletics' attempt to change the story about what it is or isn't doing with radio is to come out with an app...

https://kentstatesports.com/news/2020/10...fqRHIhlh0E

Dump the "Voice of the Golden Flashes" ... then make a big deal over an app with... wait for it... "Links to watch and listen to live events will also be available on each teams' schedule page."

Everyone in sports knows apps are a waste of time. I don't know if KSU spent any money on the app... probably not. It was probably a throw-in as part of Kent State extending its contract with Sidearm, the team's website provider.

The simple fact is everything that is available on the app was and will continue to be available on the mobile version of the athletics website... and people are going to still go to use the mobile version.

ESPN did the research... The ESPN app is specifically about giving people mobile access to watch games and other video content.

ESPN redesigned its website to make it more like a mobile experience with the idea that more people are accessing news through mobile devices.

To KSU's credit, Sidearm is a good contract that puts together quality websites. They do a good job of building websites that are responsive and translate well to mobile...

... So the question is why bother duplicating the experience by producing an app?

It will be interesting to see if people enjoy the app for more than a week or two considering studies say people don't want to bother with apps for sports news. Maybe things have changed in the business, but I still get my sports news without leaving safari on my iphone and losing the ability to quickly jump to other news sources without having to go from app to app.

I hope KSU did not spend a dime on that app.

If it did, that's one more dime that could have been spent to keep Ty.

Joel bills the app as "unique." Everything it offers seems to have already been easily available.
(This post was last modified: 10-30-2020 08:27 PM by DavidCarducci.)
10-30-2020 08:18 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
axeme Offline
Sage
*

Posts: 19,284
Joined: May 2002
Reputation: 107
I Root For: hoops
Location: Location: Location:

Folding@NCAAbbsDonatorsCrappiesCrappiesCrappiesCrappiesCrappies
Post: #57
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
How many KSU Sports apps does this make in the last 10 years or so? Each one is billed as being a convenient place to get all things KSU athletics. And how has that worked? Oh, I’ll download it after I delete the last one that was supposed to do exactly the same thing. I wonder how long it will take before they stop updating it regularly and the dept. loses interest in or or the person who does it moves on and there’s no one to take over keeping it running properly?

I wish I’d kept track of all the various KSU apps from different departments that we have cycled through over the years.
10-31-2020 05:10 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
axeme Offline
Sage
*

Posts: 19,284
Joined: May 2002
Reputation: 107
I Root For: hoops
Location: Location: Location:

Folding@NCAAbbsDonatorsCrappiesCrappiesCrappiesCrappiesCrappies
Post: #58
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
(10-31-2020 05:10 PM)axeme Wrote:  How many KSU Sports apps does this make in the last 10 years or so? Each one is billed as being a convenient place to get all things KSU athletics. And how has that worked? Oh, I’ll download it after I delete the last one that was supposed to do exactly the same thing. I wonder how long it will take before they stop updating it regularly and the dept. loses interest in or or the person who does it moves on and there’s no one to take over keeping it running properly?

I wish I’d kept track of all the various KSU apps from different departments that we have cycled through over the years.

So I download it, open it, create account. Then I attempt to login: “an unexpected error occurred.” Really, not all that unexpected actually. 07-coffee3
10-31-2020 05:22 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
JimJoyce Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,221
Joined: Oct 2008
Reputation: 7
I Root For: KT ST
Location:
Post: #59
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
Axeme that is precisely the issue. No one cares about the fans. That’s why attendance is down across all sports. That’s why interest in KSU sports is at an all-time low.

This is what happens when you put non-Kent State people in positions of power/administration.

The answer? Get rid of any and all who truly care about the place.

Hell of a business strategy.
10-31-2020 05:29 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
burden Online
All American
*

Posts: 4,389
Joined: Nov 2005
Reputation: 13
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #60
RE: Thanks Ty Linder
What a happy bunch we are. I think I’ll go to a corona virus statistics web site. It might be more uplifting.
(This post was last modified: 10-31-2020 07:19 PM by burden.)
10-31-2020 07:18 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2020 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2020 MyBB Group.