The fact Trump is spending 6x’s the money in GA as Biden should be a red flag for Republicans.

(10-20-2020 06:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The fact Trump is spending 6x’s the money in GA as Biden should be a red flag for Republicans.

Same bet as I made with that dude in 2016?

Georgia ban bet?

You take Biden. I’ll even spot you 1%

(10-20-2020 04:59 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 03:51 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Most surprising to me is GA. If Biden isnt spending there, then those two senate seats are likely safe for republicans as well. (Although there will almost certainly be a runoff in one. )

Not “almost.” Run-off for the Loeffler seat is as close to a 100% guarantee as any future-event can be in this life.

(10-20-2020 03:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  The Democrats seem to have unlimited money.

Why wouldn’t they? They are the party of globalism.

(10-20-2020 04:34 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Biden and PACs are outspending the right on such a grand scale I don’t know that it would tell you much. Remember Hillary outspent Trump and PACs by $400 million dollars in 2016.

It’s not easy to get precise data on these things. But from all the information I’ve seen in the past 4 years, I believe the Clinton campaign (+ proxies) outspent the Trump campaign (+ proxies) by an approximate ratio of 70/30 in the 2016 general election campaign.

For this year’s campaign, I think the ratio is approx. 60/40, again in the Democrats’ favor. Still an edge, but not as lopsided as 2016.

Final numbers came out to anout 600 million for Trump and PACs to 1billion for Clinton and PACs

(10-20-2020 04:32 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 03:04 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

I’m just thankful I don’t have to sit through his boring commercials. I feel sorry for those on the list. Being forced to listen to Amy McGrath ( who is trying to unseat Mitch McConnell) drone on about being the most progressive person in Kentucky and in the next breath talk about her faith is enough.

I doubt she finishes with 20 points of Mitch. Everyone in the state recognizes a liar.

Living in the Nati we are getting the McGrath v Mitch commercials too. Awful.
McGrath has one about how she keeps scripture quotes with her to read with her Dad at night...as if she is trying to paint herself as devoutly religious while she advoates for unfettered abortion.
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(10-20-2020 07:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 04:59 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  It’s not easy to get precise data on these things. But from all the information I’ve seen in the past 4 years, I believe the Clinton campaign (+ proxies) outspent the Trump campaign (+ proxies) by an approximate ratio of 70/30 in the 2016 general election campaign.

Final numbers came out to about 600 million for Trump and PACs to 1 billion for Clinton and PACs

“Final numbers” implies that there is some authoritative source with the competence to keep track of all campaign expenditures, and the integrity to publish an honest accounting of them. Needless to say, no such source exists.

There are only rough, ballpark estimates, made in good faith (or not). A ratio of $1b to $600m is by far the least-lopsided score I’ve heard of for the 2016 campaign. Seems hard to believe, but okay.

(10-20-2020 08:40 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  McGrath has one [commercial] about how she keeps scripture quotes with her to read with her Dad at night...as if she is trying to paint herself as devoutly religious while she advoates for unfettered abortion.

Most people I’ve ever heard express an opinion on the subject felt very conflicted about abortion. I suppose society will never completely resolve those conflicts. But it really is incredible to me that someone who professes to believe in the Bible can also believe that abortion should be legal throughout a pregnancy, for any reason at all so long as the mother says she wants it. And with the government picking up the tab, at least partially. That’s just something I’ll never understand.

(10-20-2020 03:04 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  This aligns with what we heard last week where Trump was pulling ad money out of OH (not needed, well up), Biden pulling money out of GA (no chance), etc. WHat this spending really shows is that the Biden camp doesnt see a blue wave. They are basically putting money on 3 democratic states (PA, MI, and WI), 1 purple state (FL) and 1 republican state (AZ) to try to flip enough of them out of that group to get to 270.

This is entirely rational.

It's not that Biden doesn't think he has a chance in Ohio. It's that Ohio won't tip the election. In any realistic scenario, Biden won't win Ohio unless he's already won PA, MI, MN, and WI (in order from what I think is easiest to hardest for Biden). And if he wins PA, MI, MN, and WI, then election is over (unless Trump picks up both New Hampshire and Nevada).

Biden wants to win the election. Winning Ohio won't get him any closer to that goal. Better to spend the money protecting New Hampshire.


* edit - to be clear, I think Biden has zero shot in Ohio. The media's response to the Covington Catholic kid struck a lot of nerves among independents in Cincinnati/Dayton. CNN and the rest spent weeks fishing and "reporting" stories that called the whole Cincinnati Catholic high school community racists. About 20% of locals went to Catholic high schools, the second highest of any city in the country.

(10-20-2020 07:07 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 06:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The fact Trump is spending 6x’s the money in GA as Biden should be a red flag for Republicans.

Same bet as I made with that dude in 2016?

Georgia ban bet?

You take Biden. I’ll even spot you 1%

He’s having to dedicate 25 mil in GA to hold onto a state he should win by 7-8 points.

Biden is able to competitively play in states like GA, TX & AZ... states in 2016 Trump was leading, at this point, by 5 to 15% points.

(10-21-2020 06:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 07:07 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 06:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The fact Trump is spending 6x’s the money in GA as Biden should be a red flag for Republicans.

Same bet as I made with that dude in 2016?

Georgia ban bet?

You take Biden. I’ll even spot you 1%

He’s having to dedicate 25 mil in GA to hold onto a state he should win by 7-8 points.

Biden is able to competitively play in states like GA, TX & AZ... states in 2016 Trump was leading, at this point, by 5 to 15% points.

You accepting the bet or not?

(10-21-2020 06:49 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-21-2020 06:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 07:07 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 06:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The fact Trump is spending 6x’s the money in GA as Biden should be a red flag for Republicans.

Same bet as I made with that dude in 2016?

Georgia ban bet?

You take Biden. I’ll even spot you 1%

He’s having to dedicate 25 mil in GA to hold onto a state he should win by 7-8 points.

Biden is able to competitively play in states like GA, TX & AZ... states in 2016 Trump was leading, at this point, by 5 to 15% points.

You accepting the bet or not?

Trump should win GA, but you’re missing the point. Go back and look at the RCP averages for those states in 2016 and compare them to 2020. Trump is fighting like heck to hold onto states he easily won in 2016... and polling projected him easily winning those states. Biden has expanded the map and forced a cash strapped campaign to pour money into defending states they didn’t have to defend last election.

(10-21-2020 06:49 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-21-2020 06:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 07:07 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 06:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The fact Trump is spending 6x’s the money in GA as Biden should be a red flag for Republicans.

Same bet as I made with that dude in 2016?

Georgia ban bet?

You take Biden. I’ll even spot you 1%

He’s having to dedicate 25 mil in GA to hold onto a state he should win by 7-8 points.

Biden is able to competitively play in states like GA, TX & AZ... states in 2016 Trump was leading, at this point, by 5 to 15% points.

You accepting the bet or not?

Obviously, he isn't. He won't even directly acknowledge your question.

I'd be willing to offer that bet to some other folks here, but I haven't done it because, like the last guy, I don't think they have the integrity to honor their bet.

(10-21-2020 07:53 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(10-21-2020 06:49 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-21-2020 06:36 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 07:07 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 06:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The fact Trump is spending 6x’s the money in GA as Biden should be a red flag for Republicans.

Same bet as I made with that dude in 2016?

Georgia ban bet?

You take Biden. I’ll even spot you 1%

He’s having to dedicate 25 mil in GA to hold onto a state he should win by 7-8 points.

Biden is able to competitively play in states like GA, TX & AZ... states in 2016 Trump was leading, at this point, by 5 to 15% points.

You accepting the bet or not?

Obviously, he isn't. He won't even directly acknowledge your question.

I'd be willing to offer that bet to some other folks here, but I haven't done it because, like the last guy, I don't think they have the integrity to honor their bet.

"never wager in earnest with a donk" - stinkfist

(10-20-2020 07:07 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-20-2020 06:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The fact Trump is spending 6x’s the money in GA as Biden should be a red flag for Republicans.

Same bet as I made with that dude in 2016?

Georgia ban bet?

You take Biden. I’ll even spot you 1%

Damn