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RE: Defense
(10-22-2020 11:53 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (10-21-2020 11:46 AM)Stammers Wrote: (10-20-2020 11:08 PM)hartlessnhere Wrote: (10-20-2020 08:01 PM)Stammers Wrote: (10-20-2020 07:27 PM)Keeper Wrote: Maybe if cops stopped murdering unarmed black citizens we could all be as focused as you are.
IKR, what's wrong with those racist cops? If I ever get stopped by the cops, here is a list of things I will do.
1. Not listen to them
2. Fight with them
3. Reach for one of their weapons
4. If I can't reach one of their weapons, get one of my own
5. Run away
6. Bonus points if my kids are in the car when I'm reaching for my weapon
I hate it when I'm trying to mind my own business trying to pass counterfeit cash, violating a restraining order, or falling asleep drunk in a drive thru lane and the cops bug me for no reason.
Yeah... cause I know the police have the right to be judge, jury, and executioner by taking a Black life cause All Lives Matter.
What are their names? Breonna Taylor. What she was doing? Asleep at home.
Alatianna Jefferson/ At home.
Aura Rosser/ At home
Stephon Clark/ Standing in his grandmother's backyard.
Botham Jean/ Seated on his sofa at home, eating ice cream.
Philando Castille/ Pulled over for a traffic stop.
Alton Sterling/ Selling CDs and DVDs
Michelle Cusseaux/ At home.
Freddie Gray/ In a police van.
Tanisha Fonville/ At home.
Eric Garner/ Allegedly selling loose cigarettes.
Akai Gurley/ Walking down the stairs in the building where he lived.
Gabriella Nevarez/ Driving
Tamir Rice/ Playing with a toy gun in the park.
Michael Brown/ Walking with a friend.
Tanisha Anderson/ Family called 911 for help because Tanisha, who is bi-polar, was restless and trying to leave the house.
Rashard Brooks/ Fell asleep in his car, blocking the drive-through lane at a fast food restaurant.
Daniel Prude/ He had run on to the street, naked, while experiencing a 'mental health episode'.
George Floyd/ Allegedly tried to use a counterfeit $20 dollar bill.
There are many, many more.
Manipulators begin to dehumanize and vilify a particular group with otherizing language, with more stereotypes, with phony statistics and manufactured stories and edited fake news; all while painting the picture of human beings they begin to see as less than human.
Sounds familiar? It was Nazi Germany who did the same thing before the holocaust. Yet, understand this has all been foretold and nothing can stop the retribution.
Atatianna Dean
Quote:Police body camera footage showed that when she came to her window to observe police outside her home, Officer Aaron Dean shot through it and killed her.[2] Police stated that they found a handgun near her body, which according to her 8-year-old nephew, she was pointing toward the window before being shot
Aura Rosser
Quote:Late one evening in November 2014, Ann Arbor police officers were summoned to the home of Aura Rosser, a 40-year-old African American woman. According to police, she had been engaged in a protracted argument with her boyfriend, and when two officers entered the house, Ms. Rosser approached them with a knife.
Stephon Clark
Quote:Stephon Clark, a 22-year-old African-American man, was shot and killed in Meadowview, Sacramento, California by Terrence Mercadal and Jared Robinet, two officers of the Sacramento Police Department in the backyard of his grandmother's house while he had a phone in his hand, officers believed he had been pointing a gun at them. On March 16, a neighbor called the police to report on behalf of Salena Mohamed Manni, the mother of Clark’s child, to report that the two had been arguing and the argument had turned violent. When police arrived at their apartment, Clark was not present, but officers found Manni with extensive injuries to her face and a hole in the wall of the apartment. Clark, on probation from two domestic violence convictions and one conviction of assault with a deadly weapon, evaded police in the days leading up to the shooting. According to the investigation, Clark had searched online for ways to commit suicide.
Botham Jean
Quote:On September 6, 2018, off-duty Dallas Police Department patrol officer Amber Guyger entered the Dallas, Texas, apartment of 26-year-old accountant Botham Jean and fatally shot him. Guyger said that she had entered the apartment believing it was her own and that she shot Jean believing he was a burglar. Obviously not racially motivated and she was convicted and got 10 years.
Philando Castille
Quote:Shot by Jeronimo Yanez who is Hispanic, so at best it wasn't racially motivated, and at worst, he wasn't killed by a white person. In a press briefing at the scene, St. Anthony's interim police chief Jon Mangseth said that the shooting was the first officer-involved shooting that the department had experienced in at least thirty years.
Alton Sterling
Quote:Alton Sterling, a 37-year-old black man, was shot dead at close range by two Baton Rouge Police Department officers in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The officers were attempting to control Sterling's arms, and Sterling was shot by them while allegedly reaching for the loaded handgun in his pants pocket. Police were responding to a report that a man in a red shirt was selling CDs and that he had used a gun to threaten a man outside a convenience store
Michelle Cusseaux
Quote:Police were called to the apartment Michelle Cusseaux was renting after she threatened to kill mental health workers. When confronted by officers Cusseaux reportedly grabbed a hammer and raised it above her head. Sergeant Dupra then opened fire killing Cusseaux.
Freddie Gray
Quote:3 of the 6 officers are black, including a black woman.
Tanisha Fonville
Quote:"Officers went inside the apartment to speak with the female who was armed with a knife," according to the release. "After being ordered several times to drop the knife, the female refused their commands and lunged at the officers."
Eric Garner
Quote:Murdered by police, but even in this case the circumstances weren't clear cut.
He had been arrested over 30 times, and asthma, heart disease, and obesity were cited as contributing factors.
Akai Gurley
Quote:The cop who shot Gurley was Asian. He said that the stairway was pitch black (the light was broken) and that he was startled by a noise and his gun went off by accident. Police say that Gurley was an innocent victim.
Gabriela Nevarez
Quote:Gabriella and her grandmother were in a heated discussion and after this discussion she took her grandmothers car and that’s when her grandmother called the police. Citrus Heights Police said they received a call for a stolen vehicle and tracked the car.
Police said Nevarez evaded them by ramming one patrol car then speeding away at over 70 miles per hour, and occasionally traveling on the wrong side of the road. Police said they opened fire on Nevarez after she rammed another patrol car.
Tamir Rice
Quote:Two officers, Loehmann and 46-year-old Frank Garmback, were responding to a police dispatch call regarding a male who had a gun. A caller reported that a male was pointing "a pistol" at random people at the Cudell Recreation Center, a park in the City of Cleveland's Public Works Department. At the beginning of the call and again in the middle, he says of the pistol "it's probably fake. Toward the end of the two-minute call, the caller states that "he is probably a juvenile"; however, this information was not relayed to officers Loehmann and Garmback on the initial dispatch. The officers reported that upon their arrival, they both continuously yelled "show me your hands" through the open patrol car window. Loehmann further stated that instead of showing his hands, it appeared as if Rice was trying to draw: "I knew it was a gun and I knew it was coming out.
Michael Brown
Quote:Wilson said that an altercation ensued when Brown attacked Wilson in his police vehicle for control of Wilson's gun until it was fired. Johnson said that Wilson initiated a confrontation by grabbing Brown by the neck through his car window, threatening him and then shooting at him. At this point, both Wilson and Johnson state that Brown and Johnson fled, with Wilson pursuing Brown shortly thereafter. Wilson stated that Brown stopped and charged him after a short pursuit. Johnson contradicted this account, stating that Brown turned around with his hands raised after Wilson shot at his back. According to Johnson, Wilson then shot Brown multiple times until Brown fell to the ground. In the entire altercation, Wilson fired a total of twelve bullets, including twice during the struggle in the car; the last was probably the fatal shot. Brown was struck six times, all in the front of his body
Tanisha Anderson
Quote:A complete mess, at least partially due to police not being properly equipped to handle cases involving mental illness. Montgomery County Corner Dr. Kent Harshbarger was asked to review the autopsy and make a ruling on Anderson's death.
Harshbarger, according to the attorney general, found that she died from a "cardiac event." He found that one of Anderson's arteries was 70 to 80 percent closed and another was 50 percent closed. Anderson suffered from heart disease and was taking prescription medication -- Resperidol/risperidone-- that increased her risk of a heart attack.
Rayshard Brooks
Quote:Enough has been said about this piece of ****. Domestic abuser, child abuse, false imprisonment, fights with police, steals their taser and tries to shoot them. The Fulton County DA; piece of **** Paul Howard says that Brooks was cordial and cooperative.
Daniel Prude
Quote:Horrible.
George Floyd
Quote:Minnesota Attorney General, Keith Ellison hid the original video for 3 months, which shows Floyd high as a kite, refusing to get in the police car, AND saying that he couldn't breathe even when nothing was obstructing his breathing. Floyd shouldn't have died, but it is noteworthy, that this is the piece of **** that pointed a gun at a pregnant woman's belly during a home invasion. Does Keith Ellison's name sound familiar? It should. He is a democrat accused of domestic abuse by two women; conveniently ignored by democrats.
You managed to leave Elijah McClain off of your list. That is the one case that was truly horrible; truly heartbreaking.
The bottom line is that we all know what we are dealing with. You are a typical of trash that make arguments consisting entirely of "selling CDs and DVDs, leaving out minor details about threatening people with a gun and reaching for a gun. You leave out all the details about weapons, violent threats, reaching for cops' weapons, fighting with cops, resisting arrest, cops that are Black, Hispanic or Asian being involved, literally everything important. In at least 15 of your 18 cases you can argue either that the reaction was justified, or it had nothing to do with race, or both.
And through all that, you don't give a crap about the thousands of kids murdered, the tens of thousand of blacks killed by blacks.
Breonna wasn't asleep at home, either. It's a flat out lie that continues to get repeated - somehow without any Big Brother fact checking.
They were in bed, awake, and heard the knocking. When her boyfriend started shooting at cops they were in the hallway. The boyfriend evidently used her as a shield because he was never hit by any of the 8 rounds. The reason the cops were there with the warrant, is because she continued to allow her drug kingpin ex-boyfriend to come over and pickup packages.
It went terribly wrong. But it was because her boyfriend shot a cop in the leg - not because of racism.
What doesn't get reported is that in addition to the deliveries to her place, one being the day before she was killed, Taylor was holding $14,000 of the drug dealer's money, and that they ended a phone conversation in January by both saying "I love you,"
Also, the narrative that they didn't find any drugs or money is being peddled the liberal media with the complete knowledge, that after the shootings, the cops stopped looking. In essence, there was no search for money or drugs which liberal media is fully aware of.
Then you have people trying pass off moronic crap, like someone was just out driving minding their own business, when they were driving a stolen car, ramming multiple police cars and driving at 70mph on the wrong side of the road.
And that's not only for the stuff that a lot of people won't check on. The clown also lists Brooks as "fell asleep in his car," failing to mention being drunk, fighting with two cops, stealing their weapon and trying to shoot them.
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