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(Today 08:40 AM)ZachMan Wrote:  The sign of a good coach is he develops schemes based on his talent, this guy just runs whatever he has always run at several different stops, the 3-4. We don't have the speed to run that, it's like watching Chris ball all over again. I was very excited when he hired this guy, really hope he isn't here long, worst D we have had yet.

I hate saying this because we have some guys that are busting their ass and I love watching, like OB Goodson, but their coach puts them in tough situations.

Goodson is special. He's fun to watch.
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They should have focused on football some this summer. When the focus is on color of skin, covid, and politics you get what you get. Luckily we have more talent than our opponents.
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(Yesterday 04:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:28 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Let's keep it real. There wasn't a lot of effort put into the defense when Norvell was here. Defense has been plaguing us for years. Coach Silverfield will have to catch up

Yeah...

We haven't had a good defense since Odom left (Ranked 28th his last year)

Through 3 coaches...

Fuentes last year
Every Norvell year
and This year.

I thought the impact of losing Fuller would compare to losing Norvell or be even greater. We went from #89 in 2018 to #61 last year, and we would have continued to improve.
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(Yesterday 04:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:28 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Let's keep it real. There wasn't a lot of effort put into the defense when Norvell was here. Defense has been plaguing us for years. Coach Silverfield will have to catch up

Yeah...

We haven't had a good defense since Odom left (Ranked 28th his last year)

Through 3 coaches...

Fuentes last year
Every Norvell year
and This year.

I believe Fuller is a good coach. Had he been here 3 years, you would see a solid unit.

My fear is that McCarthy gets the HC bug as soon as the Colorado severance run out (2021 I think). Then we're back to looking for our 4th DC in 5 years.
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MacIntyre will be fine. Look around the country this year and defenses are struggling everywhere.

Need to remember it's a new defensive system and one where there was little to no spring practice to install and learn/practice the new system.

Another thing we won't see another offense like UCF the rest of the regular season.
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(Today 11:54 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  MacIntyre will be fine. Look around the country this year and defenses are struggling everywhere.

Need to remember it's a new defensive system and one where there was little to no spring practice to install and learn/practice the new system.

Another thing we won't see another offense like UCF the rest of the regular season.

We should match up pretty well against Cincinnati. Obviously we will match up better against everyone better than we did against UCF. Cincinnati isn't going to pile up a lot of points and we should be able to score against them just because we score on everyone.

It is extremely important to put Temple away early and to avoid injuries. We can't afford to get into a slugfest that is decided in the final minutes.
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(Yesterday 09:40 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(10-18-2020 09:58 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I repeat the players have talent, speed, and the give effort. It is the coaches job to put them in position to make plays. If the coaches have them out of position because of scheme or play calling it is on them and not the players. So far the DC hasn't coached up to his reputation.

I don't think they are just overly talented.

That is why small mistakes end up in such huge plays. They have to mentally know where to be ahead of time.

This is also why Hall made so many plays...He wasn't the most athletic...But he anticipated where he needed to be.

the coach calls the plays, if a player is out of position by doing what the coach told him to do and not by mistake, whose fault is it that the defense is so porous?
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(Today 08:40 AM)ZachMan Wrote:  The sign of a good coach is he develops schemes based on his talent, this guy just runs whatever he has always run at several different stops, the 3-4. We don't have the speed to run that, it's like watching Chris ball all over again. I was very excited when he hired this guy, really hope he isn't here long, worst D we have had yet.

I hate saying this because we have some guys that are busting their ass and I love watching, like OB Goodson, but their coach puts them in tough situations.

You are correct, sir.
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(Today 08:59 AM)gusrob Wrote:  They should have focused on football some this summer. When the focus is on color of skin, covid, and politics you get what you get. Luckily we have more talent than our opponents.

Maybe if cops stopped murdering unarmed black citizens we could all be as focused as you are.
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(Today 07:24 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(Yesterday 09:40 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(10-18-2020 09:58 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I repeat the players have talent, speed, and the give effort. It is the coaches job to put them in position to make plays. If the coaches have them out of position because of scheme or play calling it is on them and not the players. So far the DC hasn't coached up to his reputation.

I don't think they are just overly talented.

That is why small mistakes end up in such huge plays. They have to mentally know where to be ahead of time.

This is also why Hall made so many plays...He wasn't the most athletic...But he anticipated where he needed to be.

the coach calls the plays, if a player is out of position by doing what the coach told him to do and not by mistake, whose fault is it that the defense is so porous?

I think it is the coaches fault if players continuously make mistakes or if the coach calls the wrong plays.

There are going to be situations when you are just outclassed (Penn State) when you really cant do anything to stop the other team...But that rarely occurs.
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(Today 07:27 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(Today 08:59 AM)gusrob Wrote:  They should have focused on football some this summer. When the focus is on color of skin, covid, and politics you get what you get. Luckily we have more talent than our opponents.

Maybe if cops stopped murdering unarmed black citizens we could all be as focused as you are.

IKR, what's wrong with those racist cops? If I ever get stopped by the cops, here is a list of things I will do.

1. Not listen to them
2. Fight with them
3. Reach for one of their weapons
4. If I can't reach one of their weapons, get one of my own
5. Run away
6. Bonus points if my kids are in the car when I'm reaching for my weapon

I hate it when I have an outstanding arrest warrant and I'm trying to mind my own business trying to pass counterfeit cash, violating a restraining order, or falling asleep drunk in a drive thru lane and the cops bug me for no reason.
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(Today 08:59 AM)gusrob Wrote:  They should have focused on football some this summer. When the focus is on color of skin, covid, and politics you get what you get. Luckily we have more talent than our opponents.

^^^^THIS^^^^
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(Today 08:01 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(Today 07:27 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(Today 08:59 AM)gusrob Wrote:  They should have focused on football some this summer. When the focus is on color of skin, covid, and politics you get what you get. Luckily we have more talent than our opponents.

Maybe if cops stopped murdering unarmed black citizens we could all be as focused as you are.

IKR, what's wrong with those racist cops? If I ever get stopped by the cops, here is a list of things I will do.

1. Not listen to them
2. Fight with them
3. Reach for one of their weapons
4. If I can't reach one of their weapons, get one of my own
5. Run away
6. Bonus points if my kids are in the car when I'm reaching for my weapon

I hate it when I'm trying to mind my own business trying to pass counterfeit cash, violating a restraining order, or falling asleep drunk in a drive thru lane and the cops bug me for no reason.

^^^^THIS^^^^
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(Today 08:01 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(Today 07:27 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(Today 08:59 AM)gusrob Wrote:  They should have focused on football some this summer. When the focus is on color of skin, covid, and politics you get what you get. Luckily we have more talent than our opponents.

Maybe if cops stopped murdering unarmed black citizens we could all be as focused as you are.

IKR, what's wrong with those racist cops? If I ever get stopped by the cops, here is a list of things I will do.

1. Not listen to them
2. Fight with them
3. Reach for one of their weapons
4. If I can't reach one of their weapons, get one of my own
5. Run away
6. Bonus points if my kids are in the car when I'm reaching for my weapon

I hate it when I have an outstanding arrest warrant and I'm trying to mind my own business trying to pass counterfeit cash, violating a restraining order, or falling asleep drunk in a drive thru lane and the cops bug me for no reason.

haha.........people are so stupid. Blind mice.
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(Today 08:01 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(Today 07:27 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(Today 08:59 AM)gusrob Wrote:  They should have focused on football some this summer. When the focus is on color of skin, covid, and politics you get what you get. Luckily we have more talent than our opponents.

Maybe if cops stopped murdering unarmed black citizens we could all be as focused as you are.

IKR, what's wrong with those racist cops? If I ever get stopped by the cops, here is a list of things I will do.

1. Not listen to them
2. Fight with them
3. Reach for one of their weapons
4. If I can't reach one of their weapons, get one of my own
5. Run away
6. Bonus points if my kids are in the car when I'm reaching for my weapon

I hate it when I'm trying to mind my own business trying to pass counterfeit cash, violating a restraining order, or falling asleep drunk in a drive thru lane and the cops bug me for no reason.
Yeah... cause I know the police have the right to be judge, jury, and executioner by taking a Black life cause All Lives Matter.

What are their names? Breonna Taylor. What she was doing? Asleep at home.
Alatianna Jefferson/ At home.
Aura Rosser/ At home
Stephon Clark/ Standing in his grandmother's backyard.
Botham Jean/ Seated on his sofa at home, eating ice cream.
Philando Castille/ Pulled over for a traffic stop.
Alton Sterling/ Selling CDs and DVDs
Michelle Cusseaux/ At home.
Freddie Gray/ In a police van.
Tanisha Fonville/ At home.
Eric Garner/ Allegedly selling loose cigarettes.
Akai Gurley/ Walking down the stairs in the building where he lived.
Gabriella Nevarez/ Driving
Tamir Rice/ Playing with a toy gun in the park.
Michael Brown/ Walking with a friend.
Tanisha Anderson/ Family called 911 for help because Tanisha, who is bi-polar, was restless and trying to leave the house.
Rashard Brooks/ Fell asleep in his car, blocking the drive-through lane at a fast food restaurant.
Daniel Prude/ He had run on to the street, naked, while experiencing a 'mental health episode'.
George Floyd/ Allegedly tried to use a counterfeit $20 dollar bill.
There are many, many more.

Manipulators begin to dehumanize and vilify a particular group with otherizing language, with more stereotypes, with phony statistics and manufactured stories and edited fake news; all while painting the picture of human beings they begin to see as less than human.

Sounds familiar? It was Nazi Germany who did the same thing before the holocaust. Yet, understand this has all been foretold and nothing can stop the retribution.
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