(10-15-2020 03:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(10-15-2020 11:38 AM)schmolik Wrote:  It was mentioned in a recent thread that they wanted to rename Rutgers to the University of New Jersey but there was backlash from alumni so they stopped. I don't remember hearing about this. I would have loved and think it would make way more sense to name the school after the state than after some dead guy no one remembers.

I also didn't hear recently there has been some talk in New Jersey about renaming Rutgers because Rutgers owned slaves. A Trentonian writer supported the move.

https://newjersey.news12.com/story/42312...lave-owner

https://www.trentonian.com/news/change-t...c3dbf.html

On the other hand, the poll taken by News 12 in New Jersey had 79.5% say the name shouldn't be changed out of 6,996 votes.

I don't really want to get into the whole "owned slaves" issue. I just think the name of the school should be something the university, the state of New Jersey, and the rest of the Big Ten should be proud of. If nobody knows who the heck Rutgers is, they're an embarrassment to our conference and the name should be changed. It's not even like Clemson or Auburn and it's the city the school is from.

Purdue was also named after "some dead guy no one remembers."

So were Baylor, Butler, Bradley, Babson, Bentley, Case Western, Creighton, Cornell, Dartmouth, Drexel, Duke, Harvard, Hofstra, Johns Hopkins, Pepperdine, Rensselaer Polytech, Rice, Tufts, Tulane, Vassar, Wheaton, Yale, and many others. Baylor, Hopkins, Duke, Rensselaer, and Rice owned slaves. Yale was a slave trader. Rice even served on the Slave Patrol for a time, returning runaway slaves to their owners.

Purdue is a land grant school, just like Rutgers.
Purdue is in the Big Ten, just like Rutgers.
No one is arguing that Purdue should change their name.

Most of the schools you mentioned are private schools. Rutgers is a public/state university (or they would want people to think that). Most other schools like Purdue, Clemson, and Auburn can't name themselves after their states because there already are state universities in their states (and Indiana State, South Carolina State, and Alabama State are all taken too). There is no other flagship university in Jersey. Plus at least Clemson and Auburn are named after the cities they are in. Sure, they're rinky dink cities no one other than people affiliated with the university lives in but they're just like Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Louisville, and Houston in that aspect. Purdue at least sounds like the chicken company. Rutgers sounds like Buttgers.

Maybe the State of New Jersey should change its name to Rutgers.

(10-15-2020 07:52 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(10-15-2020 07:19 PM)NJMark Wrote:  Bill Cosby and Gov. Kean each did commercials touting the state (though these days, The Cos isn't a great endorsement). New Jersey and You - Perfect Together

That’s a tad ironic that Cosby was in advertisements for Rutgers since he played for their rival Temple.

It isn't, because he wasn't. He voiced TV and radio ads for New Jersey.

I actually find the named "Rutgers" fine.

(10-15-2020 09:05 PM)ken d Wrote:  Maybe the State of New Jersey should change its name to Rutgers.

Yes!

New York Giants should change their name to "New Jersey's Team".

New York Jets should change their name to "New Jersey's Backup Team".

Perhaps PSU should change its name to Sandusky University. That's the association it's best known for.

While you’re at it, rename Northwestern. I can see that confusing people.

The state of Northwestern must be huge if Nothwesterrn is near Chicago and Northwestern State is south of Shreveport.

It might confuse people today, but hordes of people underground know exactly what it means!

(10-15-2020 09:05 PM)ken d Wrote:  Maybe the State of New Jersey should change its name to Rutgers.

Might work better for Rutgers. People in the Northeast are snooty. They look down on state universities. Hence Rutgers is a better brand name for them.

(10-17-2020 10:03 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-15-2020 09:05 PM)ken d Wrote:  Maybe the State of New Jersey should change its name to Rutgers.

Might work better for Rutgers. People in the Northeast are snooty. They look down on state universities. Hence Rutgers is a better brand name for them.

No need to generalize or stereotype...there are many large, successful public universities in the northeast: Penn State, Rutgers, UConn, UMass, SUNY, URI, etc.
The northeast happens to also have a disproportionate share of private (including academically elite) universities. That’s probably more a vestige of the population concentration, relative wealth and being founded earlier than in other geographies.

(10-17-2020 10:03 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-15-2020 09:05 PM)ken d Wrote:  Maybe the State of New Jersey should change its name to Rutgers.

Might work better for Rutgers. People in the Northeast are snooty. They look down on state universities. Hence Rutgers is a better brand name for them.

So true, lol...

I know people who think the school lost academic prestige and standing after it upgraded from "college" to "university" status.

(10-17-2020 01:38 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(10-17-2020 10:03 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-15-2020 09:05 PM)ken d Wrote:  Maybe the State of New Jersey should change its name to Rutgers.

Might work better for Rutgers. People in the Northeast are snooty. They look down on state universities. Hence Rutgers is a better brand name for them.

No need to generalize or stereotype...there are many large, successful public universities in the northeast: Penn State, Rutgers, UConn, UMass, SUNY, URI, etc.
The northeast happens to also have a disproportionate share of private (including academically elite) universities. That’s probably more a vestige of the population concentration, relative wealth and being founded earlier than in other geographies.

Gee, thanks.

(10-17-2020 04:10 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  

(10-17-2020 10:03 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-15-2020 09:05 PM)ken d Wrote:  Maybe the State of New Jersey should change its name to Rutgers.

Might work better for Rutgers. People in the Northeast are snooty. They look down on state universities. Hence Rutgers is a better brand name for them.

So true, lol...

I know people who think the school lost academic prestige and standing after it upgraded from "college" to "university" status.

I don't know - I've never heard anyone say that, especially since most people just call it "Rutgers."

On the other hand, when I was an undergraduate, I did take a certain pride in noting that the unit I attended was "Rutgers College," so maybe there is something to that.

(10-17-2020 09:50 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  It might confuse people today, but hordes of people underground know exactly what it means!

Just like Rutgers made sense back in the day. I’m sure Temple made sense at some point too. My friend thought they were a Jewish university.

By the way I’m not advocating name changes. In fact, I’m pointing out how stupid it is to go on a crusade against learning history.

(10-18-2020 12:09 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(10-17-2020 09:50 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  It might confuse people today, but hordes of people underground know exactly what it means!

Just like Rutgers made sense back in the day. I’m sure Temple made sense at some point too. My friend thought they were a Jewish university.

By the way I’m not advocating name changes. In fact, I’m pointing out how stupid it is to go on a crusade against learning history.

Which is funny because our namesake is a Baptist temple

https://templeperformingartscenter.org/history

(10-18-2020 01:23 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-18-2020 12:09 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(10-17-2020 09:50 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  It might confuse people today, but hordes of people underground know exactly what it means!

Just like Rutgers made sense back in the day. I’m sure Temple made sense at some point too. My friend thought they were a Jewish university.

By the way I’m not advocating name changes. In fact, I’m pointing out how stupid it is to go on a crusade against learning history.

Which is funny because our namesake is a Baptist temple

https://templeperformingartscenter.org/history

Talk about another bad name. If I didn't know better, I'd think Temple was a Jewish school. Maybe they should rebrand themselves too.

Ironically recently in Philadelphia there was a "Philadelphia University" but they merged with Thomas Jefferson University and it's now called Jefferson. In the sports world, the university is famous for Herb Magee. Magee at Jefferson/formerly Philadelphia U has won 1,100 games at the Division II level.

https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/...91120.html

Did they make a mistake changing Philadelphia U's name (at least from a sports perspective, there were obviously other issues as well)?

Maybe Temple should become the new Philadelphia University or University of Philadelphia:)

(10-15-2020 11:38 AM)schmolik Wrote:  I also didn't hear recently there has been some talk in New Jersey about renaming Rutgers because Rutgers owned slaves. A Trentonian writer supported the move.

Who didn't back then?

(10-15-2020 04:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Wouldn’t Rutgers have to fight Duke for the University of New Jersey name?

No we would just have to move home games to Duke Island Park.

Duke Island Park -- Somerset County (NJ) Park Commission