Wichita State would do themselves well to be rid of that embarrassment. They are a fine program and should have zero trouble finding a replacement for this clown. They were a good program before this doufus. And they will be a good program after this doufus.
During the past several years, the coaching carousel has been spinning a lot. Yet Marshall never moved up to the big time, despite his name being tossed around a lot in public. The coaching community is a relatively small clique. I can't imagine that this sort of thing could be happening with no one knowing about it. I suspect that's not a coincidence.
(10-09-2020 05:14 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote: Marshall is an ass.
Wichita State would do themselves well to be rid of that embarrassment. They are a fine program and should have zero trouble finding a replacement for this clown. They were a good program before this doufus. And they will be a good program after this doufus.
Agree. He makes a good salary [thank you Koch Industries] and the program has good history and awesome/passionate fans to help attract a quality coach.
(10-09-2020 05:14 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote: Marshall is an ass.
Wichita State would do themselves well to be rid of that embarrassment. They are a fine program and should have zero trouble finding a replacement for this clown. They were a good program before this doufus. And they will be a good program after this doufus.
He’s not going to be able to recruit at the level they need after this. WSU is best off compiling an airtight case to fire him with cause and grab a slightly lesser coach who won’t be handcuffed recruiting.
(10-09-2020 06:05 PM)ken d Wrote: During the past several years, the coaching carousel has been spinning a lot. Yet Marshall never moved up to the big time, despite his name being tossed around a lot in public. The coaching community is a relatively small clique. I can't imagine that this sort of thing could be happening with no one knowing about it. I suspect that's not a coincidence.
No doubt. He also made 7 NCAA’s in 9 years at Winthrop yet his best offer was a then-mid major.
(10-09-2020 04:07 PM)SMUstang Wrote: There has never been a coach like John R Wooden. In any sport. Lou Holtz is the closest IMHO.
True, but there have been a few who have had similar qualities, including an intellectual, analytical approach to the game, a gentlemanly demeanor, an ability to inspire, and kindness toward his players.
Princeton's HC, Pete Carrill (innovator of the weave offense) is sometimes referred to in a similar way, and Marquette's Al McGuire also had many of these qualities. Utah's (and Billikens') HC Rick Majerus did, as well.
Whatever happens to Marshall, whether he is fired, whether he faces any kind of legal proceedings, etc., the man should definitely start seeing a therapist ASAP, if he hasn't already.
There is the possibility of recovery for people who have done things like this, if they're able to realize the errors of their ways and are willing to work hard enough to turn their lives around. One of his biggest challenges will be to overcome the empathy deficit that a lot of tyrannical or abusive individuals have.
Whether anyone would ever want to take the chance of hiring him to coach again in the future, or not is another matter, but for his own sake, this is a time for him to start working on a major rehaul.
(10-09-2020 06:05 PM)ken d Wrote: During the past several years, the coaching carousel has been spinning a lot. Yet Marshall never moved up to the big time, despite his name being tossed around a lot in public. The coaching community is a relatively small clique. I can't imagine that this sort of thing could be happening with no one knowing about it. I suspect that's not a coincidence.
No doubt. He also made 7 NCAA’s in 9 years at Winthrop yet his best offer was a then-mid major.
I always took that to mean he had to actually win a tournament game there to get that next job, and then one year Dick Vitale actually said as much on the air. Like it’s a known thing that if you win at one of these smaller schools, you’re gone. Prove you’re a winner.
But, yeah, he went farther at Wichita, and never moved beyond it. Could Koch money be so good there and better than anywhere else?
Makes me wonder about other coaches who stick around and not move higher. Marshall’s former conference colleague Ben Jacobson comes to mind. Like, is the epic blown game against TAMU the only reason the guy didn’t get a new gig after UNI did what they did that season?
(10-09-2020 06:05 PM)ken d Wrote: During the past several years, the coaching carousel has been spinning a lot. Yet Marshall never moved up to the big time, despite his name being tossed around a lot in public. The coaching community is a relatively small clique. I can't imagine that this sort of thing could be happening with no one knowing about it. I suspect that's not a coincidence.
No doubt. He also made 7 NCAA’s in 9 years at Winthrop yet his best offer was a then-mid major.
I always took that to mean he had to actually win a tournament game there to get that next job, and then one year Dick Vitale actually said as much on the air. Like it’s a known thing that if you win at one of these smaller schools, you’re gone. Prove you’re a winner.
But, yeah, he went farther at Wichita, and never moved beyond it. Could Koch money be so good there and better than anywhere else?
Makes me wonder about other coaches who stick around and not move higher. Marshall’s former conference colleague Ben Jacobson comes to mind. Like, is the epic blown game against TAMU the only reason the guy didn’t get a new gig after UNI did what they did that season?
Jacobson can’t recruit. His whole thing is picking up farmboys in the Plains everyone missed on. That won’t translate to the B1G/XII.
He has a future NBA’er now, but it’s the longtime assistant’s kid who wanted to go to UNI since middle school.
UNI pays him well though. $1.1M with a 10-year rolling contract.
(10-09-2020 04:07 PM)SMUstang Wrote: There has never been a coach like John R Wooden. In any sport. Lou Holtz is the closest IMHO.
Not a great comparison. Lou Holtz was always a step ahead of the NCAA sheriffs that came calling at Arkansas, Minnesota, Notre Dame, and South Carolina.
(10-09-2020 10:06 PM)jedclampett Wrote: Whether anyone would ever want to take the chance of hiring him to coach again in the future, or not is another matter, but for his own sake, this is a time for him to start working on a major rehaul.
The coaching fraternity takes care of its own. Not a single coach has spoken out about it. And he'll find another job, just like Bruce Pearl and Billy Gillispie and Rick Pitino did.
Bob Knight just started reattending games at IU after 20 years of not stepping on campus, and is apparently super jolly and positive in the stands now.
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Problems for Wichita St in hoops
