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Pretty damning article in The Athletic. What a lunatic. High school kids no longer want to play for this type of coach. Hopefully it doesn’t torpedo his recruiting...
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(10-08-2020 08:35 PM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Pretty damning article in The Athletic. What a lunatic. High school kids no longer want to play for this type of coach. Hopefully it doesn’t torpedo his recruiting...

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Are there indications that their recent teams have been under-performed (or that some players have under-performed or transferred out) as a result of these tendencies?

Overall, it has been somewhat surprising to some observers that Wichita State hasn't made a return trip to the Elite Eight since their remarkable season a number of seasons back.
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(10-08-2020 08:55 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 08:35 PM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Pretty damning article in The Athletic. What a lunatic. High school kids no longer want to play for this type of coach. Hopefully it doesn’t torpedo his recruiting...

Link?

What does the article allege, specifically?

Are there indications that their recent teams have been under-performed (or that some players have under-performed or transferred out) as a result of these tendencies?

Overall, it has been somewhat surprising to some observers that Wichita State hasn't made a return trip to the Elite Eight since their remarkable season a number of seasons back.
Just says the university is investigating because former players and staff members accuse him of physical and verbal abuse. Definitely looks bad. I wonder if his wife abuses them too, lol.

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If any of the allegations of physical altercations are true then he is gone.
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(10-08-2020 09:03 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  If any of the allegations of physical altercations are true then he is gone.
Agreed, and at that point we all shake our head at adding them to the conference as I'm not sure they recover for a very long time if ever.

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(10-08-2020 09:05 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 09:03 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  If any of the allegations of physical altercations are true then he is gone.
Agreed, and at that point we all shake our head at adding them to the conference as I'm not sure they recover for a very long time if ever.

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(10-08-2020 08:55 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 08:35 PM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Pretty damning article in The Athletic. What a lunatic. High school kids no longer want to play for this type of coach. Hopefully it doesn’t torpedo his recruiting...

Link?

What does the article allege, specifically?

Are there indications that their recent teams have been under-performed (or that some players have under-performed or transferred out) as a result of these tendencies?

Overall, it has been somewhat surprising to some observers that Wichita State hasn't made a return trip to the Elite Eight since their remarkable season a number of seasons back.


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Shocker.
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Jank gets abused by his players


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It is definitely damning. I don't think he makes it.

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(10-08-2020 09:19 PM)mlb Wrote:  It is definitely damning. I don't think he makes it.

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The two people I thought would be possible to replace Marshall when he retired were:
Forbes - off the table due to the new gig
Jans- can't touch him with his history right after this happens..

So yea .... Gonna be rough.

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(10-08-2020 09:20 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 09:19 PM)mlb Wrote:  It is definitely damning. I don't think he makes it.

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The two people I thought would be possible to replace Marshall when he retired were:
Forbes - off the table due to the new gig
Jans- can't touch him with his history right after this happens..

So yea .... Gonna be rough.

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Sorry to hear. I hope you guys can have a current coach take over and guide you through a tough season then find a good replacement next spring.

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(10-08-2020 09:23 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 09:20 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 09:19 PM)mlb Wrote:  It is definitely damning. I don't think he makes it.

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The two people I thought would be possible to replace Marshall when he retired were:
Forbes - off the table due to the new gig
Jans- can't touch him with his history right after this happens..

So yea .... Gonna be rough.

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Sorry to hear. I hope you guys can have a current coach take over and guide you through a tough season then find a good replacement next spring.

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Yea .. that would likely be Isaac Brown.

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isaid this in the basketball thread.. ill be shocked if he is fired..

if this was ucla and kentucky..he'd be fired..but marshall is synonymous with Wichita, and Marshall has been loyal to Wichita when he didnt have to be..money and legacy wise he means too much to Wichita

these allegation are from 3-6 years ago, they are fresh with current players..

my guess- an apology.. he promises to be better...wichita doesnt end up getting rid of the man who built them into a national power
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(10-08-2020 09:41 PM)pesik Wrote:  isaid this in the basketball thread.. ill be shocked if he is fired..

if this was ucla and kentucky..he'd be fired..but marshall is synonymous with Wichita, and Marshall has been loyal to Wichita when he didnt have to be..money and legacy wise he means too much to Wichita

these allegation are from 3-6 years ago, they are fresh with current players..

my guess- an apology.. he promises to be better...wichita doesnt end up getting rid of the man who built them into a national power
They have a quote from an unnamed player whom they said he came forward to let recruits know because he would have never played for Marshall had he known. Also have multiple witnesses of him shoving hitting Shaq Morris. I don't see him making it.

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(10-08-2020 09:05 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 09:03 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  If any of the allegations of physical altercations are true then he is gone.
Agreed, and at that point we all shake our head at adding them to the conference as I'm not sure they recover for a very long time if ever.

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Not so sure about that. Aren't they backed by Koch money? They'll likely find a suitable replacement, maybe even one that makes them perform better than they have the past couple years. If anything, their addition to the conference only made their future success easier/more likely. They're no longer a mid major, which will make finding another coach that much easier.
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(10-08-2020 09:08 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 08:55 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 08:35 PM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Pretty damning article in The Athletic. What a lunatic. High school kids no longer want to play for this type of coach. Hopefully it doesn’t torpedo his recruiting...

Link?

What does the article allege, specifically?

Are there indications that their recent teams have been under-performed (or that some players have under-performed or transferred out) as a result of these tendencies?

Overall, it has been somewhat surprising to some observers that Wichita State hasn't made a return trip to the Elite Eight since their remarkable season a number of seasons back.


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No rule against paraphrased highlights.

The worst accusations are from the 2015-16 season.

He allegedly shoved Shaq Morris in the back in practice for what he called a dirty play, cussed him out, kicked Morris out of practice, then followed him to the door and punched him hard in the back. An assistant intervened.

When unhappy with a preseason workout, he berated a staff member and put one hand around his neck.

Many instances of Marshall blocking in students who parked in his parking spot. Once, he was late blocking somebody, chased him in his car, blocked him at an intersection, and yelled to the student if he knew WTF he was.

Marshall texted The Athletic that he was aware of interviews, and looked forward to putting this behind him quickly, but he refused to answer any followup questions.

Here's the link for anybody with a subscription, or wanting to subscribe. They have a lot of good stories.

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I'd also say that if you aren't a subscriber you should be. Great writers, the coverage for UC is great. Of course I get reds and Bengals too.

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(10-08-2020 09:44 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 09:41 PM)pesik Wrote:  isaid this in the basketball thread.. ill be shocked if he is fired..

if this was ucla and kentucky..he'd be fired..but marshall is synonymous with Wichita, and Marshall has been loyal to Wichita when he didnt have to be..money and legacy wise he means too much to Wichita

these allegation are from 3-6 years ago, they are fresh with current players..

my guess- an apology.. he promises to be better...wichita doesnt end up getting rid of the man who built them into a national power
They have a quote from an unnamed player whom they said he came forward to let recruits know because he would have never played for Marshall had he known. Also have multiple witnesses of him shoving hitting Shaq Morris. I don't see him making it.

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from YEARS ago.. if this was at last weeks practice, id be there with you..
Marshall BUILT Wichita into a power. his legacy is cemented at Wichita..he is the TOP of rushmore at wichita..

he means to much to them
they will make him apologize, for a story thatll be forgotten in 2 weeks...and not risk the empire they built...marshall being a jerk also isnt new news to anyone, including the heads at Wichita
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(10-08-2020 09:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 09:44 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 09:41 PM)pesik Wrote:  isaid this in the basketball thread.. ill be shocked if he is fired..

if this was ucla and kentucky..he'd be fired..but marshall is synonymous with Wichita, and Marshall has been loyal to Wichita when he didnt have to be..money and legacy wise he means too much to Wichita

these allegation are from 3-6 years ago, they are fresh with current players..

my guess- an apology.. he promises to be better...wichita doesnt end up getting rid of the man who built them into a national power
They have a quote from an unnamed player whom they said he came forward to let recruits know because he would have never played for Marshall had he known. Also have multiple witnesses of him shoving hitting Shaq Morris. I don't see him making it.

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from YEARS ago.. if this was at last weeks practice, id be there with you..
Marshall BUILT Wichita into a power. his legacy is cemented at Wichita..he is the TOP of rushmore at wichita..

he means to much to them
they will make him apologize, for a story thatll be forgotten in 2 weeks...and not risk the empire they built...marshall being a jerk also isnt new news to anyone, including the heads at Wichita

Being a jerk won't get him fired, as long as he wins.

But hitting a player hard near the shoulders and neck from behind, and putting his hand around a staff member's throat go beyond jerk territory.
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