Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Make Your Predictions
Author Message
THE NC Herd Fan Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 16,168
Joined: Oct 2003
Reputation: 521
I Root For: Marshall
Location: Charlotte
Post: #61
RE: Make Your Predictions
Trump 278 Biden 258.
10-27-2020 06:12 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MileHighBronco Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 34,297
Joined: Mar 2005
Reputation: 1727
I Root For: Broncos
Location: Forgotten Time Zone
Post: #62
RE: Make Your Predictions
[Image: O646Z.png]
10-27-2020 06:18 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Bronco'14 Offline
WMU
*

Posts: 12,352
Joined: Aug 2012
Reputation: 201
I Root For: WMU Broncos
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Post: #63
RE: Make Your Predictions
^^^ Ohio going Blue but sweeping MN, WI, MI & PA?
10-27-2020 06:25 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MileHighBronco Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 34,297
Joined: Mar 2005
Reputation: 1727
I Root For: Broncos
Location: Forgotten Time Zone
Post: #64
RE: Make Your Predictions
That is what I see happening. I waffled on Ohio for awhile. Trump is a strong closer. Hard to close from one's basement.
10-27-2020 06:40 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Billy_Bearcat Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 18,859
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 401
I Root For: UC Bearcats
Location:

Donators
Post: #65
RE: Make Your Predictions
(10-27-2020 06:18 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  [Image: O646Z.png]

If Trump loses Ohio he loses the whole midwest
10-27-2020 06:41 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Bronco'14 Offline
WMU
*

Posts: 12,352
Joined: Aug 2012
Reputation: 201
I Root For: WMU Broncos
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Post: #66
RE: Make Your Predictions
yep
10-27-2020 06:44 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MileHighBronco Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 34,297
Joined: Mar 2005
Reputation: 1727
I Root For: Broncos
Location: Forgotten Time Zone
Post: #67
RE: Make Your Predictions
I don't think so.

I know that Ohio residents, like NYC residents believe that they are the center of the universe. The canard that you can't win the top job without winning Ohio may not be true anymore in the age of Trump.
10-27-2020 06:47 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
natibeast21 Offline
Banned

Posts: 2,481
Joined: Nov 2010
I Root For: UC, Ohio State
Location: Independent Thought
Post: #68
RE: Make Your Predictions
(10-27-2020 06:47 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I don't think so.

I know that Ohio residents, like NYC residents believe that they are the center of the universe. The canard that you can't win the top job without winning Ohio may not be true anymore in the age of Trump.

03-lmfao Get outta here with that non sense. Nothing like New Yorkers.
10-27-2020 06:50 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Billy_Bearcat Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 18,859
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 401
I Root For: UC Bearcats
Location:

Donators
Post: #69
RE: Make Your Predictions
(10-27-2020 06:50 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  
(10-27-2020 06:47 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I don't think so.

I know that Ohio residents, like NYC residents believe that they are the center of the universe. The canard that you can't win the top job without winning Ohio may not be true anymore in the age of Trump.

03-lmfao Get outta here with that non sense. Nothing like New Yorkers.

Yeah, someone is seriously Mile High if they believe Ohio thinks anything like NY. Reason I say he loses the midwest if he loses Ohio is that OH is the reddest state outside of Indiana in the Midwest.
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2020 06:54 PM by Billy_Bearcat.)
10-27-2020 06:53 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Bear Catlett Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 12,687
Joined: Jan 2020
Reputation: 1494
I Root For: UC
Location:
Post: #70
RE: Make Your Predictions
(10-27-2020 06:41 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  
(10-27-2020 06:18 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  [Image: O646Z.png]

If Trump loses Ohio he loses the whole midwest

No way Trump loses Ohio.
10-27-2020 06:56 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
rath v2.0 Offline
Wartime Consigliere
*

Posts: 51,147
Joined: Jun 2007
Reputation: 2147
I Root For: Civil Disobedience
Location: Tip Of The Mitt

Donators
Post: #71
RE: Make Your Predictions
(10-27-2020 06:25 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  ^^^ Ohio going Blue but sweeping MN, WI, MI & PA?

Yeah, there is probably a better argument for the inverse.
10-27-2020 07:23 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
THE NC Herd Fan Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 16,168
Joined: Oct 2003
Reputation: 521
I Root For: Marshall
Location: Charlotte
Post: #72
RE: Make Your Predictions
(10-27-2020 06:56 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
(10-27-2020 06:41 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  
(10-27-2020 06:18 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  [Image: O646Z.png]

If Trump loses Ohio he loses the whole midwest

No way Trump loses Ohio.

I don't see him winning if he doesn't carry OH and NC. In NC they're now tying Sen. Tom Tillis fortune to Trump in commercials featuring both as working together.
10-27-2020 07:36 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Crayton Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,328
Joined: Feb 2019
Reputation: 186
I Root For: Florida
Location:
Post: #73
RE: Make Your Predictions
(10-07-2020 07:30 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 05:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 04:04 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 03:42 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I predict we won't determine a winner until sometime in 2021.

Won't happen. We have to have a winner declared by December 14 at the latest.

So if they haven't resolved counts in swing states by then, they just flip a coin?

It took something like 32 days just to resolve a few hanging chads in Florida 20 years ago.

Dec 14 is when the electors cast votes. If there’s no winner I think it goes to the house. If I’m incorrect someone please correct me.

Some news (fear?) outlets have wondered if both Republicans and Democrats might submit electoral votes from certain states (the legislatures and governors validating separate sets of votes). The US Congress then must decide which votes to accept. Reconstruction was ended this way when one party conceded the presidency while the other withdrew the occupying force. Theoretically a state’s electoral votes could be thrown out by Congress and “270” would no longer be the number of votes required. If neither candidate gets a majority (270 or otherwise), the House picks the president with each state getting 1 vote. Mathematically this happens only if there is a tie or if faithless electors give their votes for a third person and no one gets 50+%.

Prediction:
Florida goes to Biden before 8pm and the election is put to bed early. If not... there will be lots of anxiety and violence and hopefully some soul searching as we wait for mail ballots to be fully counted.
10-27-2020 07:53 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Owl 69/70/75 Offline
Just an old rugby coach
*

Posts: 80,643
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 3192
I Root For: RiceBathChelsea
Location: Montgomery, TX

DonatorsNew Orleans Bowl
Post: #74
RE: Make Your Predictions
(10-27-2020 07:53 PM)Crayton Wrote:  Some news (fear?) outlets have wondered if both Republicans and Democrats might submit electoral votes from certain states (the legislatures and governors validating separate sets of votes). The US Congress then must decide which votes to accept. Reconstruction was ended this way when one party conceded the presidency while the other withdrew the occupying force. Theoretically a state’s electoral votes could be thrown out by Congress and “270” would no longer be the number of votes required. If neither candidate gets a majority (270 or otherwise), the House picks the president with each state getting 1 vote. Mathematically this happens only if there is a tie or if faithless electors give their votes for a third person and no one gets 50+%.

This was the unreported (by the MSM, because they didn't want to broadcast the implications) story of Florida in 2000. After James Baker went to Florida, Jeb Bush called the republican-dominated Florida legislature into session for the purpose of submitting a slate of republican electors. Had they gone through with that plan, the best Al Gore could have hoped to get was a recount in which he led (remember, not one of those ever happened), in which case there would be two slates of Florida electors, and congress would have to choose, both houses agreeing. These would be the newly elected congresses, but with Al Gore still as presiding officer in the senate. The house clearly goes for the republican electors in that case, leaving it up to the senate. The senate ended up 50-50, but would Gore have been disqualified from casting the deciding vote, and if so what would have happened? Or would Lieberman have also been disqualified, making it 50-49 republican, or would Jeffords have shifted earlier giving democrats a clear majority? Let's suppose Gore wins in the senate. You have one house going Bush and one Gore. By law, who breaks that deadlock? The governor of Florida, Jeb Bush.

So once the Florida legislature went into session there was no way for Gore to win the Florida electoral votes. That's why the Supreme Court shut things down so abruptly, because it didn't matter any more, and they didn't want to deal with the potential issues that could arise had it gone on.

What really angers me to this day is that GWB owed his election to the legal maneuvering orchestrated by James Baker, but he threw Baker to the curb to follow Cheney and Rummy to his peril.
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2020 08:10 PM by Owl 69/70/75.)
10-27-2020 08:06 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Crayton Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,328
Joined: Feb 2019
Reputation: 186
I Root For: Florida
Location:
Post: #75
RE: Make Your Predictions
Ohio is similar to Florida; if either goes to Biden he likely has it in the bag. There is not an analogous canary in the other direction. If Michigan or Virginia were already counting ballots and Trump was leading in one of those states by the end of Tuesday, he’d most likely continue as president.

But... many states like Michigan are waiting until the 3rd or later to count those ballots. Doubt a Trump victory can be declared until a couple days later.
10-27-2020 08:18 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Billy_Bearcat Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 18,859
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 401
I Root For: UC Bearcats
Location:

Donators
Post: #76
RE: Make Your Predictions
(10-27-2020 08:18 PM)Crayton Wrote:  Ohio is similar to Florida; if either goes to Biden he likely has it in the bag. There is not an analogous canary in the other direction. If Michigan or Virginia were already counting ballots and Trump was leading in one of those states by the end of Tuesday, he’d most likely continue as president.

But... many states like Michigan are waiting until the 3rd or later to count those ballots. Doubt a Trump victory can be declared until a couple days later.

Gotta know how many you need to generate before you start counting them
10-27-2020 08:37 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
solohawks Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 20,782
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 810
I Root For: UNCW
Location: Wilmington, NC
Post: #77
RE: Make Your Predictions
I believe one way or the other we are going to go into 2021 with one of the parties having a Trifecta of House, Senate, and Presidency. If its the Dems the filibuster is gone. If its the GOP, Trump and Cocaine Mitch are going to rumble
10-28-2020 06:26 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Jugnaut Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,874
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 482
I Root For: UCF
Location: Florida
Post: #78
RE: Make Your Predictions
Trump wins Florida, book it.
10-28-2020 07:03 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
No Bull Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 13,426
Joined: Jul 2008
Reputation: 820
I Root For: UCF
Location: Deadwood
Post: #79
RE: Make Your Predictions
(10-27-2020 08:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(10-27-2020 07:53 PM)Crayton Wrote:  Some news (fear?) outlets have wondered if both Republicans and Democrats might submit electoral votes from certain states (the legislatures and governors validating separate sets of votes). The US Congress then must decide which votes to accept. Reconstruction was ended this way when one party conceded the presidency while the other withdrew the occupying force. Theoretically a state’s electoral votes could be thrown out by Congress and “270” would no longer be the number of votes required. If neither candidate gets a majority (270 or otherwise), the House picks the president with each state getting 1 vote. Mathematically this happens only if there is a tie or if faithless electors give their votes for a third person and no one gets 50+%.

This was the unreported (by the MSM, because they didn't want to broadcast the implications) story of Florida in 2000. After James Baker went to Florida, Jeb Bush called the republican-dominated Florida legislature into session for the purpose of submitting a slate of republican electors. Had they gone through with that plan, the best Al Gore could have hoped to get was a recount in which he led (remember, not one of those ever happened), in which case there would be two slates of Florida electors, and congress would have to choose, both houses agreeing. These would be the newly elected congresses, but with Al Gore still as presiding officer in the senate. The house clearly goes for the republican electors in that case, leaving it up to the senate. The senate ended up 50-50, but would Gore have been disqualified from casting the deciding vote, and if so what would have happened? Or would Lieberman have also been disqualified, making it 50-49 republican, or would Jeffords have shifted earlier giving democrats a clear majority? Let's suppose Gore wins in the senate. You have one house going Bush and one Gore. By law, who breaks that deadlock? The governor of Florida, Jeb Bush.

So once the Florida legislature went into session there was no way for Gore to win the Florida electoral votes. That's why the Supreme Court shut things down so abruptly, because it didn't matter any more, and they didn't want to deal with the potential issues that could arise had it gone on.

What really angers me to this day is that GWB owed his election to the legal maneuvering orchestrated by James Baker, but he threw Baker to the curb to follow Cheney and Rummy to his peril.

James Baker would have served W much better than Cheney and Rumsfeld that is for sure
10-28-2020 09:56 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Owl 69/70/75 Offline
Just an old rugby coach
*

Posts: 80,643
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 3192
I Root For: RiceBathChelsea
Location: Montgomery, TX

DonatorsNew Orleans Bowl
Post: #80
RE: Make Your Predictions
(10-28-2020 09:56 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(10-27-2020 08:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(10-27-2020 07:53 PM)Crayton Wrote:  Some news (fear?) outlets have wondered if both Republicans and Democrats might submit electoral votes from certain states (the legislatures and governors validating separate sets of votes). The US Congress then must decide which votes to accept. Reconstruction was ended this way when one party conceded the presidency while the other withdrew the occupying force. Theoretically a state’s electoral votes could be thrown out by Congress and “270” would no longer be the number of votes required. If neither candidate gets a majority (270 or otherwise), the House picks the president with each state getting 1 vote. Mathematically this happens only if there is a tie or if faithless electors give their votes for a third person and no one gets 50+%.
This was the unreported (by the MSM, because they didn't want to broadcast the implications) story of Florida in 2000. After James Baker went to Florida, Jeb Bush called the republican-dominated Florida legislature into session for the purpose of submitting a slate of republican electors. Had they gone through with that plan, the best Al Gore could have hoped to get was a recount in which he led (remember, not one of those ever happened), in which case there would be two slates of Florida electors, and congress would have to choose, both houses agreeing. These would be the newly elected congresses, but with Al Gore still as presiding officer in the senate. The house clearly goes for the republican electors in that case, leaving it up to the senate. The senate ended up 50-50, but would Gore have been disqualified from casting the deciding vote, and if so what would have happened? Or would Lieberman have also been disqualified, making it 50-49 republican, or would Jeffords have shifted earlier giving democrats a clear majority? Let's suppose Gore wins in the senate. You have one house going Bush and one Gore. By law, who breaks that deadlock? The governor of Florida, Jeb Bush.
So once the Florida legislature went into session there was no way for Gore to win the Florida electoral votes. That's why the Supreme Court shut things down so abruptly, because it didn't matter any more, and they didn't want to deal with the potential issues that could arise had it gone on.
What really angers me to this day is that GWB owed his election to the legal maneuvering orchestrated by James Baker, but he threw Baker to the curb to follow Cheney and Rummy to his peril.
James Baker would have served W much better than Cheney and Rumsfeld that is for sure

Mutual friends have told me that Barbara Bush felt exactly that way and was incredibly annoyed about the way GWB treated Baker.

I was at a law continuing education seminar in Dallas several years ago. It was a pretty upscale event, two days and the two luncheon speakers were Mack McLarty and James Baker. I sat at a table with some Canadian attorneys for the Baker speech. After the speech, they were all going on about, "Why didn't Bush listen to him instead of Cheney and Rumsfeld?"
10-28-2020 09:59 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.