(01-14-2021 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:  Looking at the updated geographic footprint, can the WAC trade SU to the Big Sky for NAU? That would tighten up travel for both institutions and the footprint of both conferences. SU would still need affiliate membership for baseball and men's soccer, but still.

Sure would be handy, and completely logical. However, NAU has already announced publicly they are staying put.

(01-14-2021 01:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:  Looking at the updated geographic footprint, can the WAC trade SU to the Big Sky for NAU? That would tighten up travel for both institutions and the footprint of both conferences. SU would still need affiliate membership for baseball and men's soccer, but still.

Sure would be handy, and completely logical. However, NAU has already announced publicly they are staying put.

I give it three years before NAU changes their mind. Probably less if the WAC can get a better TV deal than the Big Sky.

(01-14-2021 01:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:  Looking at the updated geographic footprint, can the WAC trade SU to the Big Sky for NAU? That would tighten up travel for both institutions and the footprint of both conferences. SU would still need affiliate membership for baseball and men's soccer, but still.

Sure would be handy, and completely logical. However, NAU has already announced publicly they are staying put.

There is also the logistical problem that NAU and SFA would have to conduct an ESPN-style logging competition to determine the WAC's top Lumberjacks.

So, in 2022, with this announcement it Brings the WAC to 13 OLY Sports institutions, with 7 of those playing FCS Football in the WAC and 1 playing FBS football. IT sounds as if UTRGV is [planning to start football at the FCS level by as early as 2023 which would bring the conference to 8 Football playing members. My question is, what is the ideal number of football playing institutions in an FCS WAC that is looking to potentially move teh FBS as soon as possible?

GO AGGIES!!!

So I'm wondering, how do the NMSU fans here feel about the WAC's intention to place the Aggies in the new Western Division as opposed to the Southwestern Division? Practically it appears to make the most sense since it will help balance basketball strength between the divisions (with NMSU on one side and SFA on the other) and since there are more candidates for the 14th conference member in Texas than in the far western states. But if NMSU fans could have it either way what would your preference be?

UTRGV will probably add football in 2024.

(01-14-2021 01:58 PM)NMSUIndyAg Wrote:  So, in 2022, with this announcement it Brings the WAC to 13 OLY Sports institutions, with 7 of those playing FCS Football in the WAC and 1 playing FBS football. IT sounds as if UTRGV is [planning to start football at the FCS level by as early as 2023 which would bring the conference to 8 Football playing members. My question is, what is the ideal number of football playing institutions in an FCS WAC that is looking to potentially move teh FBS as soon as possible?

GO AGGIES!!!

(01-14-2021 01:49 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:  Looking at the updated geographic footprint, can the WAC trade SU to the Big Sky for NAU? That would tighten up travel for both institutions and the footprint of both conferences. SU would still need affiliate membership for baseball and men's soccer, but still.

Sure would be handy, and completely logical. However, NAU has already announced publicly they are staying put.

I give it three years before NAU changes their mind. Probably less if the WAC can get a better TV deal than the Big Sky.

It can already be argued that the WAC has a better TV deal than the Big Sky. I think if the WAC can show some stability plus improved basketball power numbers, NAU might think it over. 3 years though? Hard to say.

(01-14-2021 01:49 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:  Looking at the updated geographic footprint, can the WAC trade SU to the Big Sky for NAU? That would tighten up travel for both institutions and the footprint of both conferences. SU would still need affiliate membership for baseball and men's soccer, but still.

Sure would be handy, and completely logical. However, NAU has already announced publicly they are staying put.

I give it three years before NAU changes their mind. Probably less if the WAC can get a better TV deal than the Big Sky.

What does the Big Skys TV deal look like?

(01-14-2021 02:07 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:49 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:  Looking at the updated geographic footprint, can the WAC trade SU to the Big Sky for NAU? That would tighten up travel for both institutions and the footprint of both conferences. SU would still need affiliate membership for baseball and men's soccer, but still.

Sure would be handy, and completely logical. However, NAU has already announced publicly they are staying put.

I give it three years before NAU changes their mind. Probably less if the WAC can get a better TV deal than the Big Sky.

What does the Big Skys TV deal look like?

All homes games on PlutoTV. Conference tournament championship is on ESPNU/2

(01-14-2021 01:58 PM)NMSUIndyAg Wrote:  So, in 2022, with this announcement it Brings the WAC to 13 OLY Sports institutions, with 7 of those playing FCS Football in the WAC and 1 playing FBS football. IT sounds as if UTRGV is [planning to start football at the FCS level by as early as 2023 which would bring the conference to 8 Football playing members. My question is, what is the ideal number of football playing institutions in an FCS WAC that is looking to potentially move teh FBS as soon as possible?

GO AGGIES!!!

I believe you need 8 schools for an FBS conference. So the WAC would be right there if you include NMSU.

(01-14-2021 02:09 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 02:07 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:49 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:  Looking at the updated geographic footprint, can the WAC trade SU to the Big Sky for NAU? That would tighten up travel for both institutions and the footprint of both conferences. SU would still need affiliate membership for baseball and men's soccer, but still.

Sure would be handy, and completely logical. However, NAU has already announced publicly they are staying put.

I give it three years before NAU changes their mind. Probably less if the WAC can get a better TV deal than the Big Sky.

What does the Big Skys TV deal look like?

All homes games on PlutoTV. Conference tournament championship is on ESPNU/2

Pluto TV? Is that a streaming subscription service, cable or what?

(01-14-2021 01:58 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  So I'm wondering, how do the NMSU fans here feel about the WAC's intention to place the Aggies in the new Western Division as opposed to the Southwestern Division? Practically it appears to make the most sense since it will help balance basketball strength between the divisions (with NMSU on one side and SFA on the other) and since there are more candidates for the 14th conference member in Texas than in the far western states. But if NMSU fans could have it either way what would your preference be?

Good question. I actually think the travel in the west division is easier for NMSU. Large metros and major airports.

I like your comment about the basketball powers in each division, but the point is having the best teams play each other to boost their NET numbers for the NCAA seeding. There are probably going to be years when SFA and NMSU do not play each other or they only play each other once.

Bottom line, I'm fine being in the western division.

(01-14-2021 02:12 PM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 02:09 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 02:07 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:49 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Sure would be handy, and completely logical. However, NAU has already announced publicly they are staying put.

I give it three years before NAU changes their mind. Probably less if the WAC can get a better TV deal than the Big Sky.

What does the Big Skys TV deal look like?

All homes games on PlutoTV. Conference tournament championship is on ESPNU/2

Pluto TV? Is that a streaming subscription service, cable or what?

There you go. If you don’t even know what it is, that’s a problem.

PlutoTV is a OTT free service/app that you can get on Roku, Apple, and others. It has a ton of stuff. It’s free, but has commercials. I like it, but as a destination for sports fan, I don’t see it. However, every Big Sky game is shown live, for free. Good for BSC fans, but for others like you, doubt many are watching or even know it’s there.

(01-14-2021 01:58 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  So I'm wondering, how do the NMSU fans here feel about the WAC's intention to place the Aggies in the new Western Division as opposed to the Southwestern Division? Practically it appears to make the most sense since it will help balance basketball strength between the divisions (with NMSU on one side and SFA on the other) and since there are more candidates for the 14th conference member in Texas than in the far western states. But if NMSU fans could have it either way what would your preference be?

I think the western side fits best for NMSU. A lot more fans from NM could make the road trips to those schools than the schools on the other side of Texas. And because of our past conference history we have more familiarity with western schools.

Also it would be a shame to break up what I think is one of the best growing rivalries in the WAC in NMSU/GCU. Especially when GCU appears to be on the cusp of taking that next step up as a program. I like what I’m seeing from GCU, CBU and I think Seattle has huge potential. The Utah schools also appear to be solid adds, given time to grow. We still get to play teams in the other division, which I love because I’m currently located in S. Texas.

All things considered, the WAC made a good move with all this. I’m super satisfied with the way things turned out. Mr. Peanut would be proud.

(01-14-2021 04:27 PM)YesCubanB Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 01:58 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  So I'm wondering, how do the NMSU fans here feel about the WAC's intention to place the Aggies in the new Western Division as opposed to the Southwestern Division? Practically it appears to make the most sense since it will help balance basketball strength between the divisions (with NMSU on one side and SFA on the other) and since there are more candidates for the 14th conference member in Texas than in the far western states. But if NMSU fans could have it either way what would your preference be?

I think the western side fits best for NMSU. A lot more fans from NM could make the road trips to those schools than the schools on the other side of Texas. And because of our past conference history we have more familiarity with western schools.

Also it would be a shame to break up what I think is one of the best growing rivalries in the WAC in NMSU/GCU. Especially when GCU appears to be on the cusp of taking that next step up as a program. I like what I’m seeing from GCU, CBU and I think Seattle has huge potential. The Utah schools also appear to be solid adds, given time to grow. We still get to play teams in the other division, which I love because I’m currently located in S. Texas.

All things considered, the WAC made a good move with all this. I’m super satisfied with the way things turned out. Mr. Peanut would be proud.

Mr. Peanut would find a way to screw NMSU.

So happy we get to dust off the ole "Almost Christian" chant.

Last time I used it was when a father of an ACU girls basketballer was in the middle of the student section trying to pick a fight with everyone and got moved to the general admission seating.

(01-14-2021 04:39 PM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  So happy we get to dust off the ole "Almost Christian" chant.

Last time I used it was when a father of an ACU girls basketballer was in the middle of the student section trying to pick a fight with everyone and got moved to the general admission seating.

It will be so nice to have an actual rival that cares enough to chant crap about your school. :)

Can't wait to hear the Plowboys or is it the Purple Poo chant things that are more dumb than their name they want to be called by...

I like the additions today. I’m glad the WAC keeps fighting back. Selfishly I would have liked Denver to come back, or Metro would move up, so I could watch wac teams here.

So in volleyball there’d be no cross divisional games? But in hoops it’s twice in your division and once the other? So the western teams play more conference games? Or is basketball going with one league? I didn’t bother to read the release, so apologies.

(01-14-2021 04:47 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  Can't wait to hear the Plowboys or is it the Purple Poo chant things that are more dumb than their name they want to be called by...

Now you can have the Baptists vs the Church of Christers and both versus the Jesuits