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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-22-2020 03:15 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-22-2020 11:50 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-22-2020 09:34 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Things are heating up on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/jf...t_invites/

DavidS12 = David St?

How about my sources that has 20 schools joining the WAC!


I’m sure the WAC may have someone interested but with COVID around, things are being re-analyzed and slowed down.

It is almost certainly him. Same thought process, many of the same old ideas, and definitely the same poor writing style. How many more times can we hear the story about the West Tex A&M statement about being unhappy with D2 leadership. I mean, seriously? How many more???

And the number of times he states that West Texas A&M used to be D1. He also still thinks WTAMU has a 20,000 seat stadium. Kimbrough was sold in 2017 to Canyon ISD and has been re-named. The Buffaloes now play in their new 8,500 (expandable to 14,000) seat on-campus stadium.
10-23-2020 02:14 PM
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-23-2020 02:14 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(10-22-2020 03:15 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-22-2020 11:50 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-22-2020 09:34 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Things are heating up on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/jf...t_invites/

DavidS12 = David St?

How about my sources that has 20 schools joining the WAC!


I’m sure the WAC may have someone interested but with COVID around, things are being re-analyzed and slowed down.

It is almost certainly him. Same thought process, many of the same old ideas, and definitely the same poor writing style. How many more times can we hear the story about the West Tex A&M statement about being unhappy with D2 leadership. I mean, seriously? How many more???

And the number of times he states that West Texas A&M used to be D1. He also still thinks WTAMU has a 20,000 seat stadium. Kimbrough was sold in 2017 to Canyon ISD and has been re-named. The Buffaloes now play in their new 8,500 (expandable to 14,000) seat on-campus stadium.

I think the problem is that David exists outside of time. That's why it's so hard for him to keep track of what time we are all in.
10-23-2020 02:20 PM
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-23-2020 02:02 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 01:54 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 01:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 01:16 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 01:15 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  So if they're spending the same amount of money with 40 athletic+20 merit vs. 60 athletic, what's the advantage?

Different funding pots.

You mean it's an internal budgeting thing? Or is it a way to get around NCAA regulations?

Internal budgeting. Non-profit and governmental accounting standards are very strict. You can't just move money around, so this is a way to let you use academic funds to pay for athletics legitimately.

So why don't more schools do this?

I'm guessing because the awarding of academic merit scholarships is based on academic merit. So any athletes who receive that money will have to meet the associated academic standards. That reduces your flexibility from a recruiting and eligibility standpoint. It's not enough to ensure all of your scholarship players are meeting minimum academic requirements to be awarded or continue receiving their financial aid. Some of them will have to clear a higher bar.

To be clear, I'm not saying a typical FCS football roster only consists of kids who couldn't quality for academic merit scholarships. I'm saying that it probably takes a lot more planning and monitoring by the football staff and coordination with the financial aid office to ensure players receiving academic instead of athletic scholarships are meeting the applicable academic merit criteria.
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10-23-2020 02:42 PM
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-23-2020 02:42 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 02:02 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 01:54 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 01:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 01:16 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Different funding pots.

You mean it's an internal budgeting thing? Or is it a way to get around NCAA regulations?

Internal budgeting. Non-profit and governmental accounting standards are very strict. You can't just move money around, so this is a way to let you use academic funds to pay for athletics legitimately.

So why don't more schools do this?

I'm guessing because the awarding of academic merit scholarships is based on academic merit. So any athletes who receive that money will have to meet the associated academic standards. That reduces your flexibility from a recruiting and eligibility standpoint. It's not enough to ensure all of your scholarship players are meeting minimum academic requirements to be awarded or continue receiving their financial aid. Some of them will have to clear a higher bar.

To be clear, I'm not saying a typical FCS football roster only consists of kids who couldn't quality for academic merit scholarships. I'm saying that it probably takes a lot more planning and monitoring by the football staff and coordination with the financial aid office to ensure players receiving academic instead of athletic scholarships are meeting the applicable academic merit criteria.

Yep. Not only do you have to come in meeting certain benchmarks, you also have to maintain a certain GPA generally. Also, getting a full merit scholarship is rarer, so it is helpful to be able to give partial athletic aid which FCS schools can do but FBS can't.

I would guess that this is fairly common across the entire FCS, particularly at state schools. It's also how the Ivy League would technically count towards bowl eligibility if they chose to play those games.
10-23-2020 07:46 PM
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