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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-07-2020 09:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:04 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 07:57 PM)AZcats Wrote:  FBS does not allow a football-only conference to my understanding. Can someone verify this?

This is correct. It has to be a multisport conference with 8 full, FB-playing members.


Utah Valley and Grand Canyon could add football. Not sure how fast UVU gets to an FBS level that quickly. Grand Canyon could rent the University of Phoenix stadium for FBS games. Central Oklahoma and Midwestern State are close to FBS level stadiums.

Was it ever believed that UVU or Grand Canyon were prohibited from adding football?
To say they "could" add it kind of goes without saying.

The Football Fairy COULD also descend upon the Western US and magically create little FBS havens of happiness out of unicorn fur and gold dust. And the NFL could add an expansion team in every haven and provide a stadium for all of the little football fantasy lands. Well, they could lol.

I think Community Christian needs some additional monitoring. Please go take care of that for us, we're all dying to know about their latest branch.

They both have studied to add the sport. Adding football could raise their image, but they could get some body bag games with PAC 12, MWC and Big 12 and FBS Texas schools, they could bring in more money.

New Mexico State wants an FBS conference, and they could be spareheading the charge since they have senority there. I don't think adding SUU would help them getting and FBS WAC again. They could block them. The Texas schools and Central Oklahoma have raised money for upgrading their sports facilities in recent years. So have Dixie State.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-07-2020 11:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 09:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:04 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 07:57 PM)AZcats Wrote:  FBS does not allow a football-only conference to my understanding. Can someone verify this?

This is correct. It has to be a multisport conference with 8 full, FB-playing members.


Utah Valley and Grand Canyon could add football. Not sure how fast UVU gets to an FBS level that quickly. Grand Canyon could rent the University of Phoenix stadium for FBS games. Central Oklahoma and Midwestern State are close to FBS level stadiums.

Was it ever believed that UVU or Grand Canyon were prohibited from adding football?
To say they "could" add it kind of goes without saying.

The Football Fairy COULD also descend upon the Western US and magically create little FBS havens of happiness out of unicorn fur and gold dust. And the NFL could add an expansion team in every haven and provide a stadium for all of the little football fantasy lands. Well, they could lol.

I think Community Christian needs some additional monitoring. Please go take care of that for us, we're all dying to know about their latest branch.

They both have studied to add the sport. Adding football could raise their image, but they could get some body bag games with PAC 12, MWC and Big 12 and FBS Texas schools, they could bring in more money.

New Mexico State wants an FBS conference, and they could be spareheading the charge since they have senority there. I don't think adding SUU would help them getting and FBS WAC again. They could block them. The Texas schools and Central Oklahoma have raised money for upgrading their sports facilities in recent years. So have Dixie State.

GCU did a football feasibility study as a D2 looking at the possibility of adding the sport once they went D1. Current leadership at GCU has said countless times any level of football is of zero interest to them right now. Also does starting a football program in this current climate make the most sense to schools in higher ed?
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-08-2020 01:32 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 11:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 09:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:04 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  This is correct. It has to be a multisport conference with 8 full, FB-playing members.


Utah Valley and Grand Canyon could add football. Not sure how fast UVU gets to an FBS level that quickly. Grand Canyon could rent the University of Phoenix stadium for FBS games. Central Oklahoma and Midwestern State are close to FBS level stadiums.

Was it ever believed that UVU or Grand Canyon were prohibited from adding football?
To say they "could" add it kind of goes without saying.

The Football Fairy COULD also descend upon the Western US and magically create little FBS havens of happiness out of unicorn fur and gold dust. And the NFL could add an expansion team in every haven and provide a stadium for all of the little football fantasy lands. Well, they could lol.

I think Community Christian needs some additional monitoring. Please go take care of that for us, we're all dying to know about their latest branch.

They both have studied to add the sport. Adding football could raise their image, but they could get some body bag games with PAC 12, MWC and Big 12 and FBS Texas schools, they could bring in more money.

New Mexico State wants an FBS conference, and they could be spareheading the charge since they have senority there. I don't think adding SUU would help them getting and FBS WAC again. They could block them. The Texas schools and Central Oklahoma have raised money for upgrading their sports facilities in recent years. So have Dixie State.

GCU did a football feasibility study as a D2 looking at the possibility of adding the sport once they went D1. Current leadership at GCU has said countless times any level of football is of zero interest to them right now. Also does starting a football program in this current climate make the most sense to schools in higher ed?


Bluefield State just did. They have way less of cash than GCU does as well.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-08-2020 07:29 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 01:32 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 11:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 09:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Utah Valley and Grand Canyon could add football. Not sure how fast UVU gets to an FBS level that quickly. Grand Canyon could rent the University of Phoenix stadium for FBS games. Central Oklahoma and Midwestern State are close to FBS level stadiums.

Was it ever believed that UVU or Grand Canyon were prohibited from adding football?
To say they "could" add it kind of goes without saying.

The Football Fairy COULD also descend upon the Western US and magically create little FBS havens of happiness out of unicorn fur and gold dust. And the NFL could add an expansion team in every haven and provide a stadium for all of the little football fantasy lands. Well, they could lol.

I think Community Christian needs some additional monitoring. Please go take care of that for us, we're all dying to know about their latest branch.

They both have studied to add the sport. Adding football could raise their image, but they could get some body bag games with PAC 12, MWC and Big 12 and FBS Texas schools, they could bring in more money.

New Mexico State wants an FBS conference, and they could be spareheading the charge since they have senority there. I don't think adding SUU would help them getting and FBS WAC again. They could block them. The Texas schools and Central Oklahoma have raised money for upgrading their sports facilities in recent years. So have Dixie State.

GCU did a football feasibility study as a D2 looking at the possibility of adding the sport once they went D1. Current leadership at GCU has said countless times any level of football is of zero interest to them right now. Also does starting a football program in this current climate make the most sense to schools in higher ed?


Bluefield State just did. They have way less of cash than GCU does as well.

Bluefield is so small, just over 1200 students, that they are probably trying to use football to help boost their falling enrollment. I'll be surprised if they fully fund the D-2 scholarship limit.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-07-2020 11:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 09:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:04 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 07:57 PM)AZcats Wrote:  FBS does not allow a football-only conference to my understanding. Can someone verify this?

This is correct. It has to be a multisport conference with 8 full, FB-playing members.


Utah Valley and Grand Canyon could add football. Not sure how fast UVU gets to an FBS level that quickly. Grand Canyon could rent the University of Phoenix stadium for FBS games. Central Oklahoma and Midwestern State are close to FBS level stadiums.

Was it ever believed that UVU or Grand Canyon were prohibited from adding football?
To say they "could" add it kind of goes without saying.

The Football Fairy COULD also descend upon the Western US and magically create little FBS havens of happiness out of unicorn fur and gold dust. And the NFL could add an expansion team in every haven and provide a stadium for all of the little football fantasy lands. Well, they could lol.

I think Community Christian needs some additional monitoring. Please go take care of that for us, we're all dying to know about their latest branch.

They both have studied to add the sport. Adding football could raise their image, but they could get some body bag games with PAC 12, MWC and Big 12 and FBS Texas schools, they could bring in more money.

New Mexico State wants an FBS conference, and they could be spareheading the charge since they have senority there. I don't think adding SUU would help them getting and FBS WAC again. They could block them. The Texas schools and Central Oklahoma have raised money for upgrading their sports facilities in recent years. So have Dixie State.

GCU has zero, zilch, nunca interest in football. And you state here that they could play body bag games to generate money then in your next post acknowledged GCU has cash. There is seriously something wrong with you.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-07-2020 07:18 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 05:10 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 11:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 11:03 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(10-05-2020 12:51 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  The evasive nature of SUU's response is suspicious. If they are indeed moving to the WAC, then I'm thinking it has to be about saving money on football. An FCS WAC could be like the NEC of the west -- its FB members could all have roughly D2 numbers of FB scholarships. This would ease the burden of moving up from D2 for schools that wish to retain scholarship football (like Dixie and Tarleton), since they wouldn't actually have to increase their FB scholarship count much, if at all.

I think it might be they wanted UVU and Dixie St in the Big Sky and the Big Sky was a firm no to having 3 Utah schools in it.

That could be enough to drop out of the Big Sky.

Something more could be afoot. Maybe NMSU might be ready to move down and help build the WAC into an FCS football conference.

I sincerely doubt that SUU would be pushing for UVU and Dixie State in the Big Sky, and even if that were somehow true and the Big Sky refused, that it would compel them to leave the Big Sky.

NMSU is pretty much set on lingering in FBS. Like others have mentioned, as long as they have UNM and UTEP as annual opponents as well as some other indy hangers-on like UMass and Liberty, they can build at least a barely adequate FBS schedule around that. And if Idaho's fate is any lesson, it might be better to drop FB altogether than drop to FCS.

NMSU is not going FCS. "Barely adequate FBS schedule"? Have you seen our schedules? In 2021 alone, we play 7 games against the MWC plus UMASS, Kentucky and Alabama. Looks like a pretty good schedule to me. So do the rest of our schedules.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/new-mexico-state/

I said at least a barely adequate FBS schedule.

That makes it so much better. Our schedule is practically a MWC schedule (one game short of it). I guess the MWC at least puts out barely adequate schedules every year...
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
My understanding on the theories for a WAFC (football only conference):

The WAC doesn’t want to sponsor FCS football. If they do, that would likely make them no longer a FBS conference that could invite schools to call them up. Theoretically they may still have that ability.

Schools can’t go from division 2 to FBS very quickly. I don’t remember the exact time, but I believe it’s either 6 or 8 years of having to be FCS for the transition from D2 to allow another upgrade.

If you could get 4+ schools to join Tarleton and Dixie State, they could form a separate football conference, which would basically be a scheduling alliance.

Once enough time has passed, and if the schools are still wanting to, the WAC could then invite all members of the WAFC to join for football, and upgrade to FBS. They could also invite any other FCS schools to upgrade at the same time and join for all sports, so they get at least 8 full members playing FBS football.

This would seem to be a 10+ year plan, which makes it rather unlikely in my opinion, although fun to speculate about.

The ability for the WAC to invite a school to upgrade to FBS is of course a huge question mark as well.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-08-2020 07:29 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 01:32 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 11:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 09:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Utah Valley and Grand Canyon could add football. Not sure how fast UVU gets to an FBS level that quickly. Grand Canyon could rent the University of Phoenix stadium for FBS games. Central Oklahoma and Midwestern State are close to FBS level stadiums.

Was it ever believed that UVU or Grand Canyon were prohibited from adding football?
To say they "could" add it kind of goes without saying.

The Football Fairy COULD also descend upon the Western US and magically create little FBS havens of happiness out of unicorn fur and gold dust. And the NFL could add an expansion team in every haven and provide a stadium for all of the little football fantasy lands. Well, they could lol.

I think Community Christian needs some additional monitoring. Please go take care of that for us, we're all dying to know about their latest branch.

They both have studied to add the sport. Adding football could raise their image, but they could get some body bag games with PAC 12, MWC and Big 12 and FBS Texas schools, they could bring in more money.

New Mexico State wants an FBS conference, and they could be spareheading the charge since they have senority there. I don't think adding SUU would help them getting and FBS WAC again. They could block them. The Texas schools and Central Oklahoma have raised money for upgrading their sports facilities in recent years. So have Dixie State.

GCU did a football feasibility study as a D2 looking at the possibility of adding the sport once they went D1. Current leadership at GCU has said countless times any level of football is of zero interest to them right now. Also does starting a football program in this current climate make the most sense to schools in higher ed?


Bluefield State just did. They have way less of cash than GCU does as well.

Just because someone else does it and at a lower division none the less isn't a great argument for another school to do it.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-08-2020 10:06 AM)Phlipper33 Wrote:  My understanding on the theories for a WAFC (football only conference):

The WAC doesn’t want to sponsor FCS football. If they do, that would likely make them no longer a FBS conference that could invite schools to call them up. Theoretically they may still have that ability.

That ship sailed several years ago, even if there is technically a rule or loophole by which the WAC could restart FBS football. They'd be lucky to scrape together enough low-level FCS schools and DII FB callups to qualify for the FCS tournament autobid.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-08-2020 10:03 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 07:18 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 05:10 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 11:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 11:03 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  I think it might be they wanted UVU and Dixie St in the Big Sky and the Big Sky was a firm no to having 3 Utah schools in it.

That could be enough to drop out of the Big Sky.

Something more could be afoot. Maybe NMSU might be ready to move down and help build the WAC into an FCS football conference.

I sincerely doubt that SUU would be pushing for UVU and Dixie State in the Big Sky, and even if that were somehow true and the Big Sky refused, that it would compel them to leave the Big Sky.

NMSU is pretty much set on lingering in FBS. Like others have mentioned, as long as they have UNM and UTEP as annual opponents as well as some other indy hangers-on like UMass and Liberty, they can build at least a barely adequate FBS schedule around that. And if Idaho's fate is any lesson, it might be better to drop FB altogether than drop to FCS.

NMSU is not going FCS. "Barely adequate FBS schedule"? Have you seen our schedules? In 2021 alone, we play 7 games against the MWC plus UMASS, Kentucky and Alabama. Looks like a pretty good schedule to me. So do the rest of our schedules.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/new-mexico-state/

I said at least a barely adequate FBS schedule.

That makes it so much better. Our schedule is practically a MWC schedule (one game short of it). I guess the MWC at least puts out barely adequate schedules every year...

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care about NMSU's schedule. Allow me to disabuse you of the notion. 03-wink
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-08-2020 10:45 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 10:03 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 07:18 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 05:10 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 11:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  I sincerely doubt that SUU would be pushing for UVU and Dixie State in the Big Sky, and even if that were somehow true and the Big Sky refused, that it would compel them to leave the Big Sky.

NMSU is pretty much set on lingering in FBS. Like others have mentioned, as long as they have UNM and UTEP as annual opponents as well as some other indy hangers-on like UMass and Liberty, they can build at least a barely adequate FBS schedule around that. And if Idaho's fate is any lesson, it might be better to drop FB altogether than drop to FCS.

NMSU is not going FCS. "Barely adequate FBS schedule"? Have you seen our schedules? In 2021 alone, we play 7 games against the MWC plus UMASS, Kentucky and Alabama. Looks like a pretty good schedule to me. So do the rest of our schedules.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/new-mexico-state/

I said at least a barely adequate FBS schedule.

That makes it so much better. Our schedule is practically a MWC schedule (one game short of it). I guess the MWC at least puts out barely adequate schedules every year...

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care about NMSU's schedule. Allow me to disabuse you of the notion. 03-wink

I'm just here to provide clarity on the gibberish people perpetuate when they know very little but want to come off authoritative.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
I posted this on the WAC board, but thought I would share it here. Here is a link to our weekly AD interview. I asked the question about the new WAC school and he addresses it as best he can. Maybe I am reading too much into this, but it sure sounds like SUU is the school: "I am aware of the school. It has been talked about in the media." What school, other than SUU, has been discussed in the media? For the record, David Street and CSNbbs are not considered "the media".
Check it out at the 13:30 mark.

https://art19.com/shows/nm-state-athleti...b617fef08d
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-08-2020 11:08 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 10:45 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 10:03 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 07:18 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 05:10 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  NMSU is not going FCS. "Barely adequate FBS schedule"? Have you seen our schedules? In 2021 alone, we play 7 games against the MWC plus UMASS, Kentucky and Alabama. Looks like a pretty good schedule to me. So do the rest of our schedules.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/new-mexico-state/

I said at least a barely adequate FBS schedule.

That makes it so much better. Our schedule is practically a MWC schedule (one game short of it). I guess the MWC at least puts out barely adequate schedules every year...

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care about NMSU's schedule. Allow me to disabuse you of the notion. 03-wink

I'm just here to provide clarity on the gibberish people perpetuate when they know very little but want to come off authoritative.

No need to be petty and insulting. I'm sure FBS independence will remain viable for NMSU for decades.
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WESTERN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE
This presumes the add is Southern Utah and that Chicago State will leave; then adding Abilene, Sam Houston State & Stephen F. Austin from Southland Conference

West Division: Cal Baptist, Dixie State, Grand Canyon, Southern Utah, Utah Valley, Seattle
East Division: Abilene Christian, New Mexico State, Sam Houston State, Stephen F Austin, Tarleton State, UTRGV

Basketball: Home/Away with five divisional foes (10 games), six single cross-divisional games (six games)
Baseball: Home/away series of three games apiece with five divisional teams (30 games)
FCS Football (six teams = AQ): Dixie State, Southern Utah, Abilene, Sam Houston State, SFA, Tarleton State

I personally think you need to add one more football school (whether it be WTAMU or Lamar) and perhaps another non-football school (not sure whom, perhaps you can get another 'west' institution). Adding a seventh football team gives you three home/three away in FCS football; also allows you to get to 19 league basketball games. You'd have to look at baseball scheduling.

As a Sam Houston State fan - I'd like maintaining rivalry with Stephen F. Austin; would the games against some of the WAC schools feel like upgrades in MBB? Yes. Baseball? Not 100% sure. Football is an interesting issue.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-07-2020 08:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:04 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 07:57 PM)AZcats Wrote:  FBS does not allow a football-only conference to my understanding. Can someone verify this?

This is correct. It has to be a multisport conference with 8 full, FB-playing members.


Utah Valley and Grand Canyon could add football. Not sure how fast UVU gets to an FBS level that quickly. Grand Canyon could rent the University of Phoenix stadium for FBS games. Central Oklahoma and Midwestern State are close to FBS level stadiums.

I actually think it makes a great deal of sense for Grand Canyon to add football at some point.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-08-2020 10:39 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 10:06 AM)Phlipper33 Wrote:  My understanding on the theories for a WAFC (football only conference):

The WAC doesn’t want to sponsor FCS football. If they do, that would likely make them no longer a FBS conference that could invite schools to call them up. Theoretically they may still have that ability.

That ship sailed several years ago, even if there is technically a rule or loophole by which the WAC could restart FBS football. They'd be lucky to scrape together enough low-level FCS schools and DII FB callups to qualify for the FCS tournament autobid.

That's my thought too. Hence the 'theoretically' sentance right after that and the final sentance of the post as well.
Quote: The ability for the WAC to invite a school to upgrade to FBS is of course a huge question mark as well.

I'm pretty sure it can't/won't happen, but that's the only way I can feasibly see the WAC having FBS football in the future.
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I'm pretty sure that the WAC adding FBS football as another mouth to feed from Playoff revenues would be the first step towards the P5 deciding not to share any revenues from the Playoff with the G5 (6 with WAC). Which would defeat the purpose of being FBS as opposed to FCS.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-08-2020 11:13 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 11:08 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 10:45 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 10:03 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 07:18 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  I said at least a barely adequate FBS schedule.

That makes it so much better. Our schedule is practically a MWC schedule (one game short of it). I guess the MWC at least puts out barely adequate schedules every year...

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care about NMSU's schedule. Allow me to disabuse you of the notion. 03-wink

I'm just here to provide clarity on the gibberish people perpetuate when they know very little but want to come off authoritative.

No need to be petty and insulting. I'm sure FBS independence will remain viable for NMSU for decades.

You finally posted something accurate. We have been an indy, off and on, for decades. Good thing we are a basketball school with a rich legacy and history of success.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-08-2020 01:14 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 08:04 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-07-2020 07:57 PM)AZcats Wrote:  FBS does not allow a football-only conference to my understanding. Can someone verify this?

This is correct. It has to be a multisport conference with 8 full, FB-playing members.


Utah Valley and Grand Canyon could add football. Not sure how fast UVU gets to an FBS level that quickly. Grand Canyon could rent the University of Phoenix stadium for FBS games. Central Oklahoma and Midwestern State are close to FBS level stadiums.

I actually think it makes a great deal of sense for Grand Canyon to add football at some point.

Why? They would have to build a new stadium and everything to hopefully get leftovers from Arizona and Arizona State. GCU doesn’t need football.
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RE: Miracle on David Street: WAC has added its 10th member
(10-08-2020 01:53 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 11:13 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 11:08 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 10:45 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-08-2020 10:03 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  That makes it so much better. Our schedule is practically a MWC schedule (one game short of it). I guess the MWC at least puts out barely adequate schedules every year...

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care about NMSU's schedule. Allow me to disabuse you of the notion. 03-wink

I'm just here to provide clarity on the gibberish people perpetuate when they know very little but want to come off authoritative.

No need to be petty and insulting. I'm sure FBS independence will remain viable for NMSU for decades.

You finally posted something accurate. We have been an indy, off and on, for decades. Good thing we are a basketball school with a rich legacy and history of success.

You'll have to look up the meaning of the word "accurate". In any case, I wish your school good luck with finding an FBS conference that will take them.
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