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YouTube TV loses regional Fox sports channels
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/youtu...39524.html

This will impact for ACC fans in New York, the Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky and Indiana where Sinclair owned RSNs carry the ACC RSN package. YouTube TV already has no agreement with MASN or AT&T SportsNet Pittsburgh either, which carry the ACC RSN package in Virginia and Pennsylvania outside the Philadelphia market. The only ACC territory in which YouTube TV will carry the ACC RSN package is in New England, where it is carried by NESN.

Fortunately, the less expensive ($55/mo) Hulu + Live TV carries the Sinclair owned RSNs in all markets, as well as ACCN. Also, AT&T TV Now's Max package ($80/mo) carries the ACC RSN package in every ACC market and ACCN. Although pricy at $80, this package also includes HBO Max and Cinemax, as well as a 500 hour DVR (as compared to 50 hours on Hulu).

Quote:Starting on October 1st, YouTube TV will no longer have access to Fox regional sports channels owned by Sinclair. If you’ll recall, the Google-owned streaming TV service first announced that it would no longer carry Fox Regional Sports Networks back in February, because it was “unable to reach an agreement” with the broadcaster. The two companies were able to arrange an extension that would give subscribers continued access to the channels while hashing out the terms of the deal. Clearly, they weren’t able to come to an agreement yet again even after months of negotiations.
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Glad I have Hulu Live. It is great for my family.
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(09-30-2020 12:56 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  Glad I have Hulu Live. It is great for my family.

I was choosing between YouTube TV and Hulu Live TV when my wife suggested "just see what Spectrum will do to keep us". I wasn't optimistic, but I called. I told them I had the bundle but never used the landline phone or the cable box - we always watch TV through the Roku. Long story short, after I returned the unused cable box and phone equipment, Spectrum knocked $25 off my old price - $65 less than what it was going to be once the bundle discount ran out. Needless to say, I did NOT change...
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(09-30-2020 02:00 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(09-30-2020 12:56 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  Glad I have Hulu Live. It is great for my family.

I was choosing between YouTube TV and Hulu Live TV when my wife suggested "just see what Spectrum will do to keep us". I wasn't optimistic, but I called. I told them I had the bundle but never used the landline phone or the cable box - we always watch TV through the Roku. Long story short, after I returned the unused cable box and phone equipment, Spectrum knocked $25 off my old price - $65 less than what it was going to be once the bundle discount ran out. Needless to say, I did NOT change...

I have been thru that with Spectrum. Its only a one year reduction. After one year you will see your price suddenly increase by a lot. I only use Spectrum for internet because they are the best in my area, and home phone service, which we dont use. But the internet is cheaper with phone service than without. So I keep the phone service and use Hulu for tv watching via ROKU. I hate Spectrum, btw. Even though my middle son works for them in Florida.
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But it’s OK folks who can’t watch the games.......Chad Swofford still has a job.
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(09-30-2020 07:42 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  But it’s OK folks who can’t watch the games.......Chad Swofford still has a job.

The ultimate "hanging Chad"
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(09-30-2020 08:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(09-30-2020 07:42 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  But it’s OK folks who can’t watch the games.......Chad Swofford still has a job.

The ultimate "hanging Chad"
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One nice thing about these virtual cable services like Hulu + Live TV and YouTube TV, is that they have no contract and require no equipment. You cancel the service and you're done (usually after finishing out your month). You can switch on very short notice to another based on channel selection, price, or whatever.
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(10-01-2020 11:24 AM)orangefan Wrote:  
(09-30-2020 08:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(09-30-2020 07:42 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  But it’s OK folks who can’t watch the games.......Chad Swofford still has a job.

The ultimate "hanging Chad"
Rimshot

One nice thing about these virtual cable services like Hulu + Live TV and YouTube TV, is that they have no contract and require no equipment. You cancel the service and you're done (usually after finishing out your month). You can switch on very short notice to another based on channel selection, price, or whatever.

It would be even nicer if ESPN still controlled these rights and they were available for the ACCN where it could be making the conference money.

But Chad Swofford needed a job so the financial interests of the conference got sold out in order to save a failing media venture for that and some asinine sense of nostalgia for a company that had been bought out decades ago. #goacc
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Cord Cutting Guide for ACC Fans: Here is what I have since ACC will be using RSN thru 2026-27 season I have broke this down to All ACC CHANNELS (includes RSN), Most (No RSN, but ACCN), None...


Includes ALL ACC Sports Channels

$55/month - Hulu Live TV - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, ESPN GoalLine, ESPN College Extra, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, ACC Network, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX Affiliate and RSN (if available) ESPN3 Content can be accessed with a Hulu Live TV login in the ESPN app.

$80/month - AT&T TV NOW - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, ACC Network, Longhorn Network, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX Affiliate and RSN (if available) ESPN3 Content can be accessed with a AT&T TV NOW login in the ESPN app.

Includes Most ACC Sports Channels (No RSNs)

$40/month - Sling Orange + Sports Pack - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 content, ESPNews, ESPNU, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, SEC Network, ACC Network, TBS, TNT, PAC 12 Network, NBA Network, NHL Network, MLB Network, MLB Strikezone, Tennis Channel, BEIN Sports, Stadium, OutsideTV.
The cheapest price point available to get all ESPN Networks, TBS, and TNT with most other specialty sport networks. MISSING: most RSNs, CBSSN, Big 10 Network, FS1/FS2, NBCSN, Golf, and Olympic.

$50/month - Vidgo Plus - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN Deportes, ESPNews, ESPNU, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, SEC Network, ACC Network, Longhorn Network, FS1, FS2, Fox Deportes, Big Ten Network, Local FOX/ABC Affiliates, NFL Network, NFL Redzone Pac 12 Network and Regional PAC 12 Networks, BEIN Sports, Stadium, MAV TV
New Sevice that had added ESPN and Fox Networks plus Redzone. This package is worth a look for college sports fans. MISSING: RSN, NBC, NBCSN, CBS, CBSSN, NBA, NHL, MLB, Golf, Olympic, Tennis.

$60/month - Sling Orange/Blue Combo with Sports - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 content, ESPNews, ESPNU, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, SEC Network, ACC Network, FS1, FS2, NBCSN, Local FOX/NBC Affiliate and NBC RSN (if available), TBS, TNT, TruTv, NFL Network, NFL RedZone, NBA Network, NHL Network, MLB Network, MLB Strikezone, Tennis Channel, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, Pac 12 Network, BEIN Sports, Stadium, OutsideTV. Gets you pretty much all sports channels except most RSNs, CBSSN and the Big 10 Network which is coming for 2020 football season.

$65/month - YouTube TV - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, ACC Network, NBA Network, MLB Network, Tennis Channel, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX YouTube TV is probably the most well rounded package for sports if you do not need RSNs or NFL Network. ESPN 3 content is available via ESPN app.

Does Not Include ACC Sports (NONE)

$8/month - Fanatiz - BEIN Sports, BEIN Espanol, BEIN Sports Connect Online Channels, Gol TV English and Spanish, TYC Sports International, Nuestre Tele International. An affordable soccer focused streaming service. [DOES NOT INCLUDE MOST ACC SPORTS].

$10/month - Sling World Sports - BEIN Sports, BEIN Sports Connect Online Channels, Outside TV, Willow TV, Willow TV Extra, Nautical Channel. An easy way to add BEIN if your main provider doesn't carry it or if BEIN is all you want. Willow is a cricket network too. [DOES NOT INCLUDE MOST ACC SPORTS].

$30/month - Sling Orange - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 content, TBS, TNT, Stadium
The cheapest price point available to get ESPN/2, TBS, and TNT. Also includes easy access to Stadium. [Includes some ACC sports, but not the ACC Network or ESPNU].

$30/month - Sling Blue - FS1, NBCSN, Local FOX/NBC affiliate and NBC RSN (if available), TBS, TNT, TruTV, NFL Network, Stadium. The cheapest price point available to get FOX/NBC/Turner/NFL Network. Also includes easy access to Stadium. [DOES NOT INCLUDE MOST ACC SPORTS].

$40/month - Sling Blue + Sports Pack - FS1, NBCSN, Local FOX/NBC Affiliate and NBC RSN (if available), TBS, TNT, TruTv, NFL Network, NFL RedZone, NBA Network, NHL Network, MLB Network, MLB Strikezone, Tennis Channel, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, Pac 12 Network, BEIN Sports, Stadium, OutsideTV. Gets you many sports channels. MISSING: most RSNs, the ESPN Networks, CBSSN, Big 10 Network (noted as coming in 2020 for football season). [DOES NOT INCLUDE MOST ACC SPORTS].

$55/month - FuboTv - FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, PAC 12 Network, NFL Network, NBA Network, BEIN, TVG, Local NBC/CBS/FOX and RSN (If available) FUBO also carries the Univision networks which is what sets them apart. Fubo has a sports pack available for additional $11/month which will add NFL Redzone, Tennis Channel, Stadium and the Stadium Xtra channels and other minor Sports Networks/Alternate feeds like the PAC 12 regional networks, Fox College Sports Network, and Gol TV. [DOES NOT INCLUDE MOST ACC SPORTS].

Stolen From Hokie Mark's Post at
https://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/searc...rd+cutting
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For the record the only two streaming options that carry ACCN & RSNs along with ABC/ESPN are Hulu Live TV & AT&T TV NOW
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All good info. Thanks.
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(10-01-2020 08:23 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  For the record the only two streaming options that carry ACCN & RSNs along with ABC/ESPN are Hulu Live TV & AT&T TV NOW

Hulu + Live TV does not carry, NESN, AT&T SportsNet Pittsburgh or MASN. Only AT&T TV Now's Max package has the ACC RSN package available in all ACC markets. Again, it is pricy on its face at $80/mo but does include HBO Max and Cinemax.

(10-01-2020 06:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  It would be even nicer if ESPN still controlled these rights and they were available for the ACCN where it could be making the conference money.

But Chad Swofford needed a job so the financial interests of the conference got sold out in order to save a failing media venture for that and some asinine sense of nostalgia for a company that had been bought out decades ago. #goacc

ACCN has a full inventory, with its games coming from those formerly shown on the Raycom package, ESPNU and ACCNX. Having access to the RSN package would improve the quality but not the quantity of the ACCN inventory. Games not used by ACCN would being shown on ESPNU and ACCNX.
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(10-02-2020 07:05 AM)orangefan Wrote:  
(10-01-2020 08:23 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  For the record the only two streaming options that carry ACCN & RSNs along with ABC/ESPN are Hulu Live TV & AT&T TV NOW

Hulu + Live TV does not carry, NESN, AT&T SportsNet Pittsburgh or MASN. Only AT&T TV Now's Max package has the ACC RSN package available in all ACC markets. Again, it is pricy on its face at $80/mo but does include HBO Max and Cinemax.

(10-01-2020 06:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  It would be even nicer if ESPN still controlled these rights and they were available for the ACCN where it could be making the conference money.

But Chad Swofford needed a job so the financial interests of the conference got sold out in order to save a failing media venture for that and some asinine sense of nostalgia for a company that had been bought out decades ago. #goacc

ACCN has a full inventory, with its games coming from those formerly shown on the Raycom package, ESPNU and ACCNX. Having access to the RSN package would improve the quality but not the quantity of the ACCN inventory. Games not used by ACCN would being shown on ESPNU and ACCNX.

The good news is that after 2026-27 ACCN & ESPN will have RSN games... Thus there will be more cord cutting options... What will be interesting will be if Sinclair goes after the Pac12 & or MWC and rebrands the RSN after they purchase the AT&T RSN to stadium...
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So I tried to watch the FSU game in Florida. It was Blacked out on ESPN3 and ESPN+ didn't offer it.

I didn't check but maybe if I watched from my phone with a VPN set to another city might have worked.

This really sucks
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(10-03-2020 06:53 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  So I tried to watch the FSU game in Florida. It was Blacked out on ESPN3 and ESPN+ didn't offer it.

I didn't check but maybe if I watched from my phone with a VPN set to another city might have worked.

This really sucks

It wouldn't be on ESPN3 or ESPN+ since it was on FOX Sports Sun in Florida. You would have needed to have access to FOX Sports Sun to watch it or authenticate on Fox Sports Go.
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(10-03-2020 06:53 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  So I tried to watch the FSU game in Florida. It was Blacked out on ESPN3 and ESPN+ didn't offer it.

I didn't check but maybe if I watched from my phone with a VPN set to another city might have worked.

This really sucks
Since it was televised by Regional Sports Network your ability to watch the game via stream will depend on where you are. If you are an 'in market team', you can find a live stream via FoxSportsGO. If you are an 'out of market team', you can find a live stream via WatchESPN.
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I couldn't find the game on Fox Sports Go.

Any FSU fan confirm?
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(10-04-2020 07:11 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I couldn't find the game on Fox Sports Go.

Any FSU fan confirm?

Your Fox Sports Go app would have to be linked to an account that includes Fox Sports Sun/Florida to have game access.
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(10-05-2020 07:38 AM)orangefan Wrote:  
(10-04-2020 07:11 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I couldn't find the game on Fox Sports Go.

Any FSU fan confirm?

Your Fox Sports Go app would have to be linked to an account that includes Fox Sports Sun/Florida to have game access.

It was but I got the "Blacked Message of Horror", even for a reply on ESPN

I might be switching to Hulu Saturday Morning.
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(10-05-2020 11:18 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(10-05-2020 07:38 AM)orangefan Wrote:  
(10-04-2020 07:11 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I couldn't find the game on Fox Sports Go.

Any FSU fan confirm?

Your Fox Sports Go app would have to be linked to an account that includes Fox Sports Sun/Florida to have game access.

It was but I got the "Blacked Message of Horror", even for a reply on ESPN

I might be switching to Hulu Saturday Morning.

If I were in a Sinclair RSN territory, I would definitely be doing so. Fubo TV and Hulu both have free trials available if you want to take a test drive.
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