UAB would only get that game with Rice if necessary. I imagine Marshall would get the same kind of accommodation if there was a tiebreaker decided by # of games played.

All of this is just speculation anyway since the CUSA office can’t even acknowledge that there are potential problems looming. But it’s also correct that we’ll likely have more cancellations as the season progresses so it’s hard to make plans when they could be dumped by next week.


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(09-30-2020 08:54 AM)blazr Wrote:  UAB would only get that game with Rice if necessary. I imagine Marshall would get the same kind of accommodation if there was a tiebreaker decided by # of games played.

All of this is just speculation anyway since the CUSA office can’t even acknowledge that there are potential problems looming. But it’s also correct that we’ll likely have more cancellations as the season progresses so it’s hard to make plans when they could be dumped by next week.


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It's just another layer of frustrating. We all know more cancellations are coming.

Imagine if one or two more Marshall or UAB games get canceled. Then what is the CUSA office going to do?

(09-30-2020 08:57 AM)rileylives Wrote:  It's just another layer of frustrating. We all know more cancellations are coming.

Imagine if one or two more Marshall or UAB games get canceled. Then what is the CUSA office going to do?

Nothing, like usual. This conference's leadership is a complete joke and has been for a very long time. Each school needs to have the backbone to be proactive and look out for themselves (like UTSA getting MTSU to play). It's the conference's job to set conference games and all we get is crickets from Dallas. From the initial announcement of ODU opting out, the job done by the conference office has been pitiful. But hey, they are in a shiny new office building with a fitness center, lake views, restaurants, retail and a 5 minute drive to DFW. With all those amenities, it's no wonder they get very little actually done. (https://conferenceusa.com/documents/2018...f?id=12562

This season it's been:

• Too difficult for them to work out a schedule of replacement games for the members that lost their game against ODU, even though all four teams that lost home games had (at that time) common open dates with the four teams that were supposed to have gone to Norfolk.
• Still too difficult to simply have moved the conference championship game back a week to allow for all those missed games to be made up on 12/5.
• Too weak to establish and announce parameters of what constitutes a legitimate no contest, vs. what would require a team to forfeit for pulling out of a game (as the Big XII has), thereby allowing Rice to pull the shenanigans they currently are.
• Too dense to immediately announce the UAB-Rice game has been rescheduled to 12/5 when Rice "postponed". As a division game it would take precedence over the postponed Rice-Marshall game. The AAC quickly announced a replacement date when a similar situation arose with the Memphis-Houston game.
• Too weak to simply announce UAB-Marshall will be played 11/7 in Huntington as a make up game for both teams. If the hangup on this game being announce really is both teams want a home game, that proves the conference office is inept, because it is THEIR RESPONSIBILITY to schedule conference games. There should be no discussion, Marshall lost a home game, UAB lost a road game...Marshall should get the game, it's pretty simple.
• Too secretive IF there have actually been parameters set for conference championship eligibility (at least 1 game less than the avg. number played by all members). IF there are actual thresholds of games played needed for eligibility and the conference office is not doing everything possible to help members play the maximum number of games possible, then they are shirking their fiduciary responsibilities to the membership.
• Too weak to give Rice an edict...commit to playing as scheduled or be done for the year. It's not fair to the other 12 members to let the Rice leadership continue to lead everyone on, when they seem to have no intention of fielding a team this season.

It's way past time for a complete clean out of the conference office or failing that an airport meeting of members who aren't going to put up with the lack of leadership any longer...

(09-30-2020 08:57 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-30-2020 08:54 AM)blazr Wrote:  UAB would only get that game with Rice if necessary. I imagine Marshall would get the same kind of accommodation if there was a tiebreaker decided by # of games played.

All of this is just speculation anyway since the CUSA office can’t even acknowledge that there are potential problems looming. But it’s also correct that we’ll likely have more cancellations as the season progresses so it’s hard to make plans when they could be dumped by next week.


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It's just another layer of frustrating. We all know more cancellations are coming.

Imagine if one or two more Marshall or UAB games get canceled. Then what is the CUSA office going to do?

Someone on this forum would have to call and let them know it happened. Otherwise, they wouldn’t know it happened. And still will shrug when notified.

I do hate to say it, but I don’t think there’s any way for the West & East Division championships and the CUSA champ to avoid coming with an asterisk. Probably more asterisks then in the game posts on this forum.

(09-30-2020 10:54 AM)blazr Wrote:  I do hate to say it, but I don’t think there’s any way for the West & East Division championships and the CUSA champ to avoid coming with an asterisk. Probably more asterisks then in the game posts on this forum.

Undefeated is the only way.

(09-30-2020 11:48 AM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  

(09-30-2020 10:54 AM)blazr Wrote:  I do hate to say it, but I don’t think there’s any way for the West & East Division championships and the CUSA champ to avoid coming with an asterisk. Probably more asterisks then in the game posts on this forum.

Undefeated is the only way.

I’m not even sure that does it. Say UAB wins the West with a 6-0 record vs La Tech’s 6-1. You think the Dogs are not going to howl about having to navigate 7 games while UAB only had 6? Of course, UAB will have beaten La Tech in that scenario but that argument - an extra game to have a bad day or fluke loss - can be made.


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(09-30-2020 12:35 PM)blazr Wrote:  

(09-30-2020 11:48 AM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  

(09-30-2020 10:54 AM)blazr Wrote:  I do hate to say it, but I don’t think there’s any way for the West & East Division championships and the CUSA champ to avoid coming with an asterisk. Probably more asterisks then in the game posts on this forum.

Undefeated is the only way.

I’m not even sure that does it. Say UAB wins the West with a 6-0 record vs La Tech’s 6-1. You think the Dogs are not going to howl about having to navigate 7 games while UAB only had 6? Of course, UAB will have beaten La Tech in that scenario but that argument - an extra game to have a bad day or fluke loss - can be made.


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If your one missing game is Rice it would not make a hoopla. You’d have beaten Tech at that point and there is no argument. If you are 5-1, and missing a West opponent, there would be more of an issue.

Undefeated with at least 6 wins, as long as you play the other top team in the division, does not involve drama.

(09-30-2020 10:49 AM)blazerjay Wrote:  

(09-30-2020 08:57 AM)rileylives Wrote:  It's just another layer of frustrating. We all know more cancellations are coming.

Imagine if one or two more Marshall or UAB games get canceled. Then what is the CUSA office going to do?

Nothing, like usual. This conference's leadership is a complete joke and has been for a very long time. Each school needs to have the backbone to be proactive and look out for themselves (like UTSA getting MTSU to play). It's the conference's job to set conference games and all we get is crickets from Dallas. From the initial announcement of ODU opting out, the job done by the conference office has been pitiful. But hey, they are in a shiny new office building with a fitness center, lake views, restaurants, retail and a 5 minute drive to DFW. With all those amenities, it's no wonder they get very little actually done. (https://conferenceusa.com/documents/2018...f?id=12562

This season it's been:

• Too difficult for them to work out a schedule of replacement games for the members that lost their game against ODU, even though all four teams that lost home games had (at that time) common open dates with the four teams that were supposed to have gone to Norfolk.
• Still too difficult to simply have moved the conference championship game back a week to allow for all those missed games to be made up on 12/5.
• Too weak to establish and announce parameters of what constitutes a legitimate no contest, vs. what would require a team to forfeit for pulling out of a game (as the Big XII has), thereby allowing Rice to pull the shenanigans they currently are.
• Too dense to immediately announce the UAB-Rice game has been rescheduled to 12/5 when Rice "postponed". As a division game it would take precedence over the postponed Rice-Marshall game. The AAC quickly announced a replacement date when a similar situation arose with the Memphis-Houston game.
• Too weak to simply announce UAB-Marshall will be played 11/7 in Huntington as a make up game for both teams. If the hangup on this game being announce really is both teams want a home game, that proves the conference office is inept, because it is THEIR RESPONSIBILITY to schedule conference games. There should be no discussion, Marshall lost a home game, UAB lost a road game...Marshall should get the game, it's pretty simple.
• Too secretive IF there have actually been parameters set for conference championship eligibility (at least 1 game less than the avg. number played by all members). IF there are actual thresholds of games played needed for eligibility and the conference office is not doing everything possible to help members play the maximum number of games possible, then they are shirking their fiduciary responsibilities to the membership.
• Too weak to give Rice an edict...commit to playing as scheduled or be done for the year. It's not fair to the other 12 members to let the Rice leadership continue to lead everyone on, when they seem to have no intention of fielding a team this season.

It's way past time for a complete clean out of the conference office or failing that an airport meeting of members who aren't going to put up with the lack of leadership any longer...

This is the winning post.

+2

I agree, it's way past midnight now, curfew set. We needed adults to take charge, and they (CUSA) have proven in Texas to be very lacking.

Marshall AD Mike Hamrick has gone on record saying he exhausted every option to schedule a game for this weekend. We couldn't get a player. there was no word on whether the conference office did anything to try to fit another conference game in here.

I just don't know if our presidents or athletic directors are even going to do anything about it. That's also very frustrating.

I guess FAU expects the CUSA championship game to be moved because they just scheduled a game with Georgia Southern on December 5th.

https://fbschedules.com/florida-atlantic...for-dec-5/

(09-30-2020 07:32 PM)jaminniner Wrote:  I guess FAU expects the CUSA championship game to be moved because they just scheduled a game with Georgia Southern on December 5th.

https://fbschedules.com/florida-atlantic...for-dec-5/

Very nice.

(09-30-2020 07:32 PM)jaminniner Wrote:  I guess FAU expects the CUSA championship game to be moved because they just scheduled a game with Georgia Southern on December 5th.

https://fbschedules.com/florida-atlantic...for-dec-5/

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(09-21-2020 03:12 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(09-21-2020 02:31 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(09-21-2020 01:58 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(09-21-2020 01:21 PM)StatesboroBluesman Wrote:  Per Taggart y’all had to sit 25 but now all players are negative and ready for ball this Saturday. What a sham.

Doesn't matter if they are currently negative. They should be in quarantine for 14 days. Complete crap from a joke program.

Only if quarantine started TODAY. But if the quarantine started more than a week ago, then it is only another 6 (or less) days and it's over. It is actually quite silly having GaSo girls calling FAU's program a "joke program"! GaSo had 33 PLAYERS out for Campbell!

And we still didn't cancel our game.

FAU is absolutely a joke.

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Well, congratulations to FAU & GA Southern! Now maybe someone can talk trueeagle98 into stepping back away from the ledge.

I sure hope FAU fans & players remember the thread above when they play GA Southern in December.

blazerjay, you know more than I do but I wonder how much power CUSA actually has, contractually, in all of this. Can Judy pick up the phone and say, “UAB AD, your team will be in Huntington on 11/7. Marshall AD, get everything ready.”

Or even, “Rice AD, you’re not pulling this ****. Show up or all of your games are forfeits if you can’t show positive COVID issues that interfered with your practice schedule.”

At this point, essentially the only benefit CUSA provides is not having to worry about having a full schedule (this year is clearly an outlier...we did have a full schedule to start) esp. bball where you don’t have to scramble for 18 games every year (but that’s true in any conference) and having championships to win.


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blazr,

The MWC announced their schedule, and they intentionally put out a schedule where teams are playing a different number of conference games in order to preserve some key OOC like Boise vs BYU and Air Force vs Army. They will go without divisions this year and the top 2 conference winning percentage will play in the title game.

Certainly they should.

Well, we have a GaSo re-scheduled to December 5, so we would pretty much like the Championship game pushed back.

Sunbelt has moved their championship game to December 19th. Maybe the CUSA HQ will get around to making a decision by Thanksgiving.

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...36610?s=20