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Week Four...

1 Clemson (55) [1] 2-0
2 Alabama (3) [2] 1-0
3 Florida [5] 1-0
4 Georgia [4] 1-0
5 Notre Dame [7] 2-0
6 *Ohio State (4) [NR] 0-0
7 Auburn [8] 1-0
8 Miami (Fla.) [12] 3-0
9 Texas [8] 2-0
10 *Penn State [NR] 0-0
11 UCF [13] 2-0
12 North Carolina [11] 1-0
13 Texas A&M [10] 1-0
14 *Oregon [NR] 0-0
15 Cincinnati [14] 2-0
16 Mississippi State [NR] 1-0
17 Oklahoma State [15] 2-0
18 Oklahoma [3] 1-1
19 *Wisconsin [NR] 0-0
20 LSU [6] 0-1
21 Tennessee [16] 1-0
22 Brigham Young [18] 2-0
23 *Michigan [NR] 0-0
24 Pittsburgh [21] 3-0
25 Memphis [17] 1-0

Others receiving votes: Virginia Tech 195, Louisiana-Lafayette 126, *Minnesota 110, *Southern Cal 104, Kansas State 60, SMU 37, Marshall 31, Baylor 22, *Iowa 16, *Utah 14, Virginia 12, Arkansas State 11, UAB 5, Washington 4, Kentucky 4, Louisville 4, Army 3
 
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I know it's not worth bitchen at this point but....how the fuk do we drop one spot after beating a Top 25 team and UCF rises two spots after beating our conference bottom dweller? They gained three spots on us since last week. I guess the AP can't have two non-P5 teams at or near the Top 10. This is going to be "interesting" indeed to see how these B1G Schlong teams stay ranked with no games played as other teams continue to win. Why do I even care?
 
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(09-27-2020 03:40 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I know it's not worth bitchen at this point but....how the fuk do we drop one spot after beating a Top 25 team and UCF rises two spots after beating our conference bottom dweller? They gained three spots on us since last week. I guess the AP can't have two non-P5 teams at or near the Top 10. This is going to be "interesting" indeed to see how these B1G Schlong teams stay ranked with no games played as other teams continue to win. Why do I even care?

I agree and I thought we'd jump them with a ranked win. But let's be honest, the voters aren't watching most of these games. And when they look at the final scores ucf really jumps out compared to us. The good news is this will be settled on the field so it doesn't really matter. What's really frustrating is when a team like Boise coasts off a win from Florida State last year and all we can do is hope they trip up. Gotta love the life of a G5
 
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If we both go undefeated otherwise, beating UCF will just have us swap spots. Neither team cracks the Top 10
 
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(09-27-2020 03:57 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  If we both go undefeated otherwise, beating UCF will just have us swap spots. Neither team cracks the Top 10
UCF is gonna crack the top 10 next week lol

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(09-27-2020 03:40 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I know it's not worth bitchen at this point but....how the fuk do we drop one spot after beating a Top 25 team and UCF rises two spots after beating our conference bottom dweller? They gained three spots on us since last week. I guess the AP can't have two non-P5 teams at or near the Top 10. This is going to be "interesting" indeed to see how these B1G Schlong teams stay ranked with no games played as other teams continue to win. Why do I even care?

Army was not a top 25 team in the real world. They stink.

You’ll get no cookies for struggling for a half against them.
 
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(09-27-2020 03:57 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  If we both go undefeated otherwise, beating UCF will just have us swap spots. Neither team cracks the Top 10

Ridder under center is not beating UCF on the road. No way no how.
 
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The other thing that bothers me is we finished #21 last season to UCF's #24. We beat them head-to-head and we returned the bulk of the starters for this season. We also started the poll this year ranked above them one spot. You see other teams get preferential treatment/deference in the rankings or consideration based on past history. We typically get hosed up the wazoo. I know, we just need to keep winning but it's hard to get past our drop and UCF's rise based on who we've played thus far.
 
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(09-27-2020 04:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  The other thing that bothers me is we finished #21 last season to UCF's #24. We beat them head-to-head and we returned the bulk of the starters for this season. We also started the poll this year ranked above them one spot. You see other teams get preferential treatment/deference in the rankings or consideration based on past history. We typically get hosed up the wazoo. I know, we just need to keep winning but it's hard to get past our drop and UCF's rise based on who we've played thus far.

If we earn the respect the way they have recently, we'll get the benefit of the doubt. Just win. Everything else takes care of itself.
 
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(09-27-2020 04:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  The other thing that bothers me is we finished #21 last season to UCF's #24. We beat them head-to-head and we returned the bulk of the starters for this season. We also started the poll this year ranked above them one spot. You see other teams get preferential treatment/deference in the rankings or consideration based on past history. We typically get hosed up the wazoo. I know, we just need to keep winning but it's hard to get past our drop and UCF's rise based on who we've played thus far.

My guess is they’re looking at how we both play. Pollsters probably seeing a ceiling with who’s at QB.
 
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UCF also started a true freshman last year at QB. He looks a lot better.

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Some polling observations...

Quote:No. 6 Ohio State, No. 10 Penn State and No. 14 Oregon returned to The Associated Press college football poll on Sunday, weeks before they start playing, creating a Top 25 as unusual as this season.

At the top of the rankings this week, Clemson remained No. 1 with 55 first-place votes, followed by Alabama at No. 2 with three first-place votes.

The rest of the rankings was rattled by the Big Ten, Pac-12, Mountain West and Mid-American conferences reversing course and deciding to play fall football after initially postponing because of COVID-19 concerns.

None will kick off until late October at the earliest, but the AP decided all FBS teams planning to play in the fall would be eligible for inclusion in the Top 25.

Most voters put the most highly regarded teams from those late-arriving conferences back into their rankings, but not all did. A few stuck with only teams currently playing.

Further complicating voters’ task this week: Two top-10 teams lost to unranked teams at home Saturday. No. 3 Oklahoma blew a big lead and fell to Kansas State. No. 6 and defending national champion LSU was upset by Mississippi State in coach Mike Leach’s debut with the Bulldogs.

“I write my ballot out by hand in the same notepad every week,” said Matt Baker of the Tampa Bay Times. “I’ve never crossed so many teams out as I did today. It looks like something my 3-year-old would have done, just in black pen instead of crayon.”

Oklahoma slipped to No. 18 and LSU dropped to No. 20. Mississippi State jumped in at No. 16.

Back at the top, Florida moved up two spots to No. 3, Georgia held on at No. 4 and Notre Dame benefitted from the upsets by moving up to No. 5 without playing. As a reminder that this season is anything but normal, the Fighting Irish were idle this weekend because of COVID-19 issues and won’t play next week either.

Then came the Buckeyes, who received four first-place votes. Ohio State is loaded and was a close No. 2 to Clemson in the preseason poll.

Still, 11 voters did not have the Buckeyes on their ballots, deciding to rank only the teams that have played.

“I actually changed my opinion on this and decided to only vote for teams that have played.” said Brett McMurphy of Stadium. “Once a team has played a game I will consider them. Some of these 0-0 teams are obviously better (on paper anyway) than the teams I ranked, but until they play a game I won’t rank them. At the end of the year, I will rank the best 25 teams — with no bias whether they played 7, 8 or 10 games.”

Others jumped right in with some adjustments.

“My rationale, such as it may be, was that I had voted for SEC teams the past few weeks before they played,” said Chuck Carlton of the Dallas Morning News. “To be consistent, had to vote for teams in the conferences starting next month. That said, most of those schools are down somewhat from where I had them in the preseason polls, simply because other teams have a body of work now.”

Not every voter struggled with this week’s ballot.

“Honestly, it wasn’t too difficult,” said Nathan Baird of Cleveland.com. “I referred back to my preseason research as a baseline, but that was already a factor as I voted for SEC teams the past few weeks. Where I ranked teams previously, especially at the bottom of those polls, was irrelevant.”

This is unlikely to get easier, though.

No Power Five team has played more than three games so far, but by the time Ohio State is scheduled to play its first game, Clemson might have played five times.

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Where did the rest of the Big Ten and Pac-12 come back in the poll compared with where they were in the preseason?

— No. 10 Penn State fell three spots from its preseason ranking of No. 7.
— No. 14 Oregon had been No. 9 in the preseason.
— No. 19 Wisconsin was No. 12 in the preseason.
— No. 23 Michigan was No. 16 in the preseason.

Not making it back in were Southern California (preseason No. 17), Minnesota (preseason No. 19), Utah (preseason No. 22) and Iowa (preseason No. 24).

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(09-27-2020 04:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  The other thing that bothers me is we finished #21 last season to UCF's #24. We beat them head-to-head and we returned the bulk of the starters for this season. We also started the poll this year ranked above them one spot. You see other teams get preferential treatment/deference in the rankings or consideration based on past history. We typically get hosed up the wazoo. I know, we just need to keep winning but it's hard to get past our drop and UCF's rise based on who we've played thus far.

Plus they had a virtual NC in the past 5 years.
 
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Click on the map to look at any of the pollsters ballots. David Jablonski of the Dayton Daily News ranked us above UCF. Thank you very much sir!

View The Ballots!
 
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The Toledo Blade dude ranked us above UCF but the Cleveland.com Buckeye Bot rated UCF above us. Also, this guy ranked Ohio State #1 LOL!!!! Fuggin' biased shatster.
 
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[Image: nathan-baird.jpg?5f384d1d96af9]

Ohio State #1! I suck all things from the sweet teet of Ohio State.
 
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(09-27-2020 06:03 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  [Image: nathan-baird.jpg?5f384d1d96af9]

Ohio State #1! I suck all things from the sweet teet of Ohio State.

NERRRRRRRRD !!!!
 
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(09-27-2020 05:02 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  
(09-27-2020 04:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  The other thing that bothers me is we finished #21 last season to UCF's #24. We beat them head-to-head and we returned the bulk of the starters for this season. We also started the poll this year ranked above them one spot. You see other teams get preferential treatment/deference in the rankings or consideration based on past history. We typically get hosed up the wazoo. I know, we just need to keep winning but it's hard to get past our drop and UCF's rise based on who we've played thus far.

My guess is they’re looking at how we both play. Pollsters probably seeing a ceiling with who’s at QB.

The UCF QB can hit wide open receivers, ours cannot!
 
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(09-27-2020 07:10 PM)doss2 Wrote:  
(09-27-2020 05:02 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  
(09-27-2020 04:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  The other thing that bothers me is we finished #21 last season to UCF's #24. We beat them head-to-head and we returned the bulk of the starters for this season. We also started the poll this year ranked above them one spot. You see other teams get preferential treatment/deference in the rankings or consideration based on past history. We typically get hosed up the wazoo. I know, we just need to keep winning but it's hard to get past our drop and UCF's rise based on who we've played thus far.

My guess is they’re looking at how we both play. Pollsters probably seeing a ceiling with who’s at QB.

The UCF QB can hit wide open receivers, ours cannot!
He hit Sauce in perfect stride last year!!!
 
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All things considered I think this poll is one of the more accurate I've seen in a long time. I don't think we've played like a team that deserves higher than a #15 ranking. 3 weeks into the season, all teams who'd theoretically crack the top 25 are positioned as such, and the American has 3 teams in the top 25 with two in the top 15. Just keep winning!
 
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