I realize that my idea how I want to use a forum is in the minority for sure. Actually, I find that the majority of people who simply want to enjoy the game don't even post in forums at all. But hey, if trash talk is an objective form of sport, have at it. It's difficult to determine who's trying to be funny and who isn't for me.
(09-29-2020 11:19 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote: That's is my opinion also. I like Cajun fans. They do remind me of GS fans too. But yes, GS fans have a chip on their shoulder and do feel the need for constant attention.
You just need to see it as part of our charm and it keeps the board active.
Seems like cross divisions its the ASUs and GS v UL
I think we (and you could say the same for Cajun fans) have people that are just too easily baited.
And part of the problem is people putting bait out there. I understand people getting annoyed when some thread becomes a GS-App p****** contest, but it does take two to tango.
(This post was last modified: 09-29-2020 04:09 PM by EigenEagle.)
(09-29-2020 07:34 AM)sdcritter Wrote: See, now all us stAte fans are jealous because you'd rather beat GS than us.
Never quite understood the vitriol we get from Cajun fans but its existed since the first discussions of GS moving to the Sun Belt.
I distinctly remember in 2012-2013 when Cajun fans were balking at the prospect of even more FCS schools coming to the Sun Belt and laughed in our face when we told them we were a solid football school. The hatred was cemented when we joined in 2014 and immediately ran the table, and then erupted when they gave us our best of only two wins of the entire season in 2017.
No wonder they love to hate us.
Some folks wont like this but here goes, I've long said these two vocal message board fan bases are two pees in a pod. Both believe they should be respected more than they have gotten in the past and feel others are always trying to disrespect them at every turn. its natural they would rub each other the wrong way in a competitive environment. Sun Belt is building rivalries. Together we rise. whats the new one?
That's is my opinion also. I like Cajun fans. They do remind me of GS fans too. But yes, GS fans have a chip on their shoulder and do feel the need for constant attention.
You just need to see it as part of our charm and it keeps the board active.
Seems like cross divisions its the ASUs and GS v UL
Kinda proving his point by continuing this thread but just for the record I"ve been a Cajun fan since being a kid spending time on the bayou. Had an uncle that lived near Lafayette. Passing by the stadium was cool. Fully expected Cajun fans to be rough around the edges. Never forget at 14 years old being chased by several 10 year olds threatening to shoot me. No kidding! Barely made it back to camp when my uncle reminded me to not steer too far away from the house in these parts. Said Cajuns don't take too kindly to strangers.
That last part is not remotely true. Ask any fan that has visited here for a game and they will tell you Cajuns fans are some of the most hospitable fans around. Cajun people in general are that way, and that goes back to the reason we ended up in South Louisiana 200-250 years ago.
(09-29-2020 08:03 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: Never quite understood the vitriol we get from Cajun fans but its existed since the first discussions of GS moving to the Sun Belt.
I distinctly remember in 2012-2013 when Cajun fans were balking at the prospect of even more FCS schools coming to the Sun Belt and laughed in our face when we told them we were a solid football school. The hatred was cemented when we joined in 2014 and immediately ran the table, and then erupted when they gave us our best of only two wins of the entire season in 2017.
No wonder they love to hate us.
Some folks wont like this but here goes, I've long said these two vocal message board fan bases are two pees in a pod. Both believe they should be respected more than they have gotten in the past and feel others are always trying to disrespect them at every turn. its natural they would rub each other the wrong way in a competitive environment. Sun Belt is building rivalries. Together we rise. whats the new one?
That's is my opinion also. I like Cajun fans. They do remind me of GS fans too. But yes, GS fans have a chip on their shoulder and do feel the need for constant attention.
You just need to see it as part of our charm and it keeps the board active.
Seems like cross divisions its the ASUs and GS v UL
Kinda proving his point by continuing this thread but just for the record I"ve been a Cajun fan since being a kid spending time on the bayou. Had an uncle that lived near Lafayette. Passing by the stadium was cool. Fully expected Cajun fans to be rough around the edges. Never forget at 14 years old being chased by several 10 year olds threatening to shoot me. No kidding! Barely made it back to camp when my uncle reminded me to not steer too far away from the house in these parts. Said Cajuns don't take too kindly to strangers.
That last part is not remotely true. Ask any fan that has visited here for a game and they will tell you Cajuns fans are some of the most hospitable fans around. Cajun people in general are that way, and that goes back to the reason we ended up in South Louisiana 200-250 years ago.
True story but the intent was more tongue-and-cheek. I've enjoyed my time in the area over the years. But I would recommend caution when down on the bayou.
GS has lost a step, we are in mediocre limbo. I think with this lackluster staff and the mediocre recruiting we are not going to hit the next gear in the FBS journey.
Based on what I've seen at positions where young guys have to step up, we're on the right track with recruiting. The 2018 class wasn't that great overall (not-so-ironically it's the one class this staff had that's a top SBC class on 247) but we were trying to put together a staff while getting commits for early signing day.
(09-30-2020 12:54 PM)EigenEagle Wrote: Based on what I've seen at positions where young guys have to step up, we're on the right track with recruiting. The 2018 class wasn't that great overall (not-so-ironically it's the one class this staff had that's a top SBC class on 247) but we were trying to put together a staff while getting commits for early signing day.
You'll never convince JC that 247 recruiting rankings are anything but holy prophecy
(09-30-2020 12:54 PM)EigenEagle Wrote: Based on what I've seen at positions where young guys have to step up, we're on the right track with recruiting. The 2018 class wasn't that great overall (not-so-ironically it's the one class this staff had that's a top SBC class on 247) but we were trying to put together a staff while getting commits for early signing day.
Yea I'm impressed more and more by the younger guys over some of the guys that have been out (or even playing) in the last two games.
(09-29-2020 08:03 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: Never quite understood the vitriol we get from Cajun fans but its existed since the first discussions of GS moving to the Sun Belt.
I distinctly remember in 2012-2013 when Cajun fans were balking at the prospect of even more FCS schools coming to the Sun Belt and laughed in our face when we told them we were a solid football school. The hatred was cemented when we joined in 2014 and immediately ran the table, and then erupted when they gave us our best of only two wins of the entire season in 2017.
No wonder they love to hate us.
Some folks wont like this but here goes, I've long said these two vocal message board fan bases are two pees in a pod. Both believe they should be respected more than they have gotten in the past and feel others are always trying to disrespect them at every turn. its natural they would rub each other the wrong way in a competitive environment. Sun Belt is building rivalries. Together we rise. whats the new one?
That's is my opinion also. I like Cajun fans. They do remind me of GS fans too. But yes, GS fans have a chip on their shoulder and do feel the need for constant attention.
You just need to see it as part of our charm and it keeps the board active.
Seems like cross divisions its the ASUs and GS v UL
Kinda proving his point by continuing this thread but just for the record I"ve been a Cajun fan since being a kid spending time on the bayou. Had an uncle that lived near Lafayette. Passing by the stadium was cool. Fully expected Cajun fans to be rough around the edges. Never forget at 14 years old being chased by several 10 year olds threatening to shoot me. No kidding! Barely made it back to camp when my uncle reminded me to not steer too far away from the house in these parts. Said Cajuns don't take too kindly to strangers.
That last part is not remotely true. Ask any fan that has visited here for a game and they will tell you Cajuns fans are some of the most hospitable fans around. Cajun people in general are that way, and that goes back to the reason we ended up in South Louisiana 200-250 years ago.
No joke. That depiction of Cajun culture could not be further from reality.
Just like the misbehavior of the Cajun players during the GS game that did not happen.
There was one play where a Cajun took Kennedy to the ground and then rolled him over, which he took offense to. Kennedy got up an threw a punch the officials didn't see.
That was the only time I saw anything between the two schools.
I did see, however, both teams together, on their knees at midfield, praying after the game.
(10-01-2020 08:06 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: There was one play where a Cajun took Kennedy to the ground and then rolled him over, which he took offense to. Kennedy got up an threw a punch the officials didn't see.
That was the only time I saw anything between the two schools.
I did see, however, both teams together, on their knees at midfield, praying after the game.
Warmed my heart to see that.
That was a shove, not a punch.
In any case it would have been the refs fault...several times in the game they were slow on their whistles. Players get injured that way. I don't blame the Cajun player for continuing the play and I don't blame Kennedy for getting upset.
(09-30-2020 12:23 PM)stingingeagle Wrote: A step? Like singular? We're still hugging the NC Trophy from 20 years ago
When you have back to back bad coaching hires it happens. I dont get how there are tons of experienced P5 OC's and DC's and entire division of coaches to look at in the FCS and we go back to back with guys with no shred of proof they can run a DIV I football program. Benko will hopefully have a short leash on this mediocracy and get his guy in quickly. We are in a top three state for talent and this staff is fine with the first warm bodies they can land it appears and we are shocked we cant contend for the championship unless others fall back to us now. Unless Ruse is given a chance to resurrect this offense I dont see us getting back to Fritz level growth and results.
(10-01-2020 08:06 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: There was one play where a Cajun took Kennedy to the ground and then rolled him over, which he took offense to. Kennedy got up an threw a punch the officials didn't see.
That was the only time I saw anything between the two schools.
I did see, however, both teams together, on their knees at midfield, praying after the game.
Warmed my heart to see that.
That was a shove, not a punch.
In any case it would have been the refs fault...several times in the game they were slow on their whistles. Players get injured that way. I don't blame the Cajun player for continuing the play and I don't blame Kennedy for getting upset.
I remember watching that. Cajun player was already mid-lunge when Kennedy went out of bounds and he completed the tackle even though the play was over. Kennedy probably took it personally and that's why he shoved him back and each player went on their way.
Other than that, I didn't see or hear about any foul play from any Cajun players so idk where that's coming from.
(09-30-2020 12:23 PM)stingingeagle Wrote: A step? Like singular? We're still hugging the NC Trophy from 20 years ago
When you have back to back bad coaching hires it happens. I dont get how there are tons of experienced P5 OC's and DC's and entire division of coaches to look at in the FCS and we go back to back with guys with no shred of proof they can run a DIV I football program. Benko will hopefully have a short leash on this mediocracy and get his guy in quickly. We are in a top three state for talent and this staff is fine with the first warm bodies they can land it appears and we are shocked we cant contend for the championship unless others fall back to us now. Unless Ruse is given a chance to resurrect this offense I dont see us getting back to Fritz level growth and results.
Yup. Because having a head coach that has gone to a bowl game every season so far and is undefeated against our rivals means he's a bad coach with no proof he can run a D1 program. SMH do you even listen to yourself sometimes?
Agreed, I don't think he's a bad coach right now. PJ, Bohannon, and Monken had "no proof" that they could run a Div I program, but they've been quite successful. What they do have is many years of experience around success prior to taking over a program.
When I looked at Monken's recruiting pattern, it actually resembles Lunsford's in totality, but not in the beginning. TS was more centered around the defense during the short time he was here. Lunsford seemed to have recruited to fill in the gaps first, then kind of started to balance it out to resemble Monken's pattern. To my brain, there's only 3 factors to football, the quality of the recruits and the quality of coaching, with scheme being the efficiency in how coaches are utilizing the recruits. I think coaching trumps quality recruits to a large degree, but not completely. I think what we are seeing is a combination of a hiccup in the recruiting consistency and coaching consistency. I will say that DeBesse's offense isn't where I thought it would be at this point in time. Personally, I'd like to replace Ruse with DeBesse, and poach an assistant or 2 from Tulane's OL staff, because Atkins was pretty good when he was here.
(10-01-2020 09:11 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:
(10-01-2020 09:01 AM)JCGSU Wrote:
(09-30-2020 12:23 PM)stingingeagle Wrote: A step? Like singular? We're still hugging the NC Trophy from 20 years ago
When you have back to back bad coaching hires it happens. I dont get how there are tons of experienced P5 OC's and DC's and entire division of coaches to look at in the FCS and we go back to back with guys with no shred of proof they can run a DIV I football program. Benko will hopefully have a short leash on this mediocracy and get his guy in quickly. We are in a top three state for talent and this staff is fine with the first warm bodies they can land it appears and we are shocked we cant contend for the championship unless others fall back to us now. Unless Ruse is given a chance to resurrect this offense I dont see us getting back to Fritz level growth and results.
Yup. Because having a head coach that has gone to a bowl game every season so far and is undefeated against our rivals means he's a bad coach with no proof he can run a D1 program. SMH do you even listen to yourself sometimes?
(10-01-2020 08:06 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: There was one play where a Cajun took Kennedy to the ground and then rolled him over, which he took offense to. Kennedy got up an threw a punch the officials didn't see.
That was the only time I saw anything between the two schools.
I did see, however, both teams together, on their knees at midfield, praying after the game.
Warmed my heart to see that.
That was a shove, not a punch.
In any case it would have been the refs fault...several times in the game they were slow on their whistles. Players get injured that way. I don't blame the Cajun player for continuing the play and I don't blame Kennedy for getting upset.
I remember watching that. Cajun player was already mid-lunge when Kennedy went out of bounds and he completed the tackle even though the play was over. Kennedy probably took it personally and that's why he shoved him back and each player went on their way.
Other than that, I didn't see or hear about any foul play from any Cajun players so idk where that's coming from.
This was inbounds. He got rolled to the ground and there was still no whistle so the defender rolled him again. Kennedy knew he was down which is why he got upset. The refs were slow on it. If Kennedy had been penalized I would have hoped we would have crawled the refs for creating the situation for it to occur. They keep doing that and someone is gonna jump on a pile late because there was no whistle.
Defender did what he was supposed to do. 100% don't blame him at all. It was good fundamentals. But I also understand why Kennedy was frustrated.
(10-01-2020 08:06 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: There was one play where a Cajun took Kennedy to the ground and then rolled him over, which he took offense to. Kennedy got up an threw a punch the officials didn't see.
That was the only time I saw anything between the two schools.
I did see, however, both teams together, on their knees at midfield, praying after the game.
Warmed my heart to see that.
That was a shove, not a punch.
In any case it would have been the refs fault...several times in the game they were slow on their whistles. Players get injured that way. I don't blame the Cajun player for continuing the play and I don't blame Kennedy for getting upset.
I remember watching that. Cajun player was already mid-lunge when Kennedy went out of bounds and he completed the tackle even though the play was over. Kennedy probably took it personally and that's why he shoved him back and each player went on their way.
Other than that, I didn't see or hear about any foul play from any Cajun players so idk where that's coming from.
This was inbounds. He got rolled to the ground and there was still no whistle so the defender rolled him again. Kennedy knew he was down which is why he got upset. The refs were slow on it. If Kennedy had been penalized I would have hoped we would have crawled the refs for creating the situation for it to occur. They keep doing that and someone is gonna jump on a pile late because there was no whistle.
Defender did what he was supposed to do. 100% don't blame him at all. It was good fundamentals. But I also understand why Kennedy was frustrated.
agreed. I was happy to see them praying together afterward.