this simply defines how stupid dippos have become....it's kinda simple to strike a match...

of course, there's always the routing that is also traceable...

yep, it gets fonzier by the tick-tock...

(09-24-2020 03:22 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 03:18 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Unfottunately, this type of thing is to be expected. These will not be the only ballots "discarded".

If you read the release I quoted.. It sounds like there were more, these were the ones recovered..

I have no doubt. Howver, when I click on the DOJ link all I get is a "Page not found" error.

(09-24-2020 03:36 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 03:22 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 03:18 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Unfottunately, this type of thing is to be expected. These will not be the only ballots "discarded".

If you read the release I quoted.. It sounds like there were more, these were the ones recovered..

I have no doubt. Howver, when I click on the DOJ link all I get is a "Page not found" error.

The italics on my quote is from the DOJ site that was posted.

(09-24-2020 02:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  1. Were the ballots found opened?

Doesn't matter... but for someone to say they were 100% trump tells me they had to be opened.

Quote:2. If not, who opened them and did that violate PA law?

UHm.. tampering with a state ballot? DUH.. YES!!!

Quote:Were they discarded intentionally or was this just an honest mistake of someone misplacing them.

Oh no.. no, no, no.. Doesn't matter. Someone INTENTIONALLY discarded them.

I'd have as MUCH of an issue if they were all democratic ballots that were THROWN OUT by someone who has no -integrity- on the right side of the spectrum.

(09-24-2020 03:37 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 03:36 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 03:22 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 03:18 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Unfottunately, this type of thing is to be expected. These will not be the only ballots "discarded".

If you read the release I quoted.. It sounds like there were more, these were the ones recovered..

I have no doubt. Howver, when I click on the DOJ link all I get is a "Page not found" error.

The italics on my quote is from the DOJ site that was posted.

Ah, I see now. Thanks!

(09-24-2020 02:27 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 02:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 02:04 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm assuming these are absentee ballots..

Tom is going to believe the press over the Dept. of Justice.

All I need to know.

Tom doesn't care if someone cheats, as long as they cheat and help the Democrats.

Thanks for showing us who we all knew you were.


Statement Of U.S. Attorney Freed On Inquiry Into Reports Of Potential Issues With Mail-In Ballots
HARRISBURG - On Monday, September 21, 2020, at the request of Luzerne County District Attorney Stefanie Salavantis, the Office of the United States Attorney along with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Scranton Resident Office, began an inquiry into reports of potential issues with a small number of mail-in ballots at the Luzerne County Board of Elections.

Since Monday, FBI personnel working together with the Pennsylvania State Police have conducted numerous interviews and recovered and reviewed certain physical evidence. Election officials in Luzerne County have been cooperative. At this point we can confirm that a small number of military ballots were discarded. Investigators have recovered nine ballots at this time. Some of those ballots can be attributed to specific voters and some cannot. All nine ballots were cast for presidential candidate Donald Trump.

Our inquiry remains ongoing and we expect later today to share our up to date findings with officials in Luzerne County. It is the vital duty of government to ensure that every properly cast vote is counted.

ETA it's only 9 ballots, but if they can get away with 9.. How many more can they get away with?

I have no doubt at this point that the US Attorney statement is accurate. But before we jump to conclusions, we need all the facts.

1. Were the ballots found opened?
2. If not, who opened them and did that violate PA law?
3. Were they discarded intentionally or was this just an honest mistake of someone misplacing them.

Your first two questions were valid questions to ask. Weird though right, since we're being force fed to believe voting by mail is a safe, secure way to get your vote counted.

Are military absentee or cheat by mail votes/envelopes labelled or marked any differently than regular ones?

I'd imagine one give away would be a return address if that exists, or perhaps the cancel mark from overseas. Be pretty easy to screen for those if so.

If PA has public info on the primary voters, then they simply could run the name thru that database to see if they are a registered republican.

(09-24-2020 02:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 02:04 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm assuming these are absentee ballots..

Tom is going to believe the press over the Dept. of Justice.

All I need to know.

Tom doesn't care if someone cheats, as long as they cheat and help the Democrats.

Thanks for showing us who we all knew you were.


Statement Of U.S. Attorney Freed On Inquiry Into Reports Of Potential Issues With Mail-In Ballots
HARRISBURG - On Monday, September 21, 2020, at the request of Luzerne County District Attorney Stefanie Salavantis, the Office of the United States Attorney along with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Scranton Resident Office, began an inquiry into reports of potential issues with a small number of mail-in ballots at the Luzerne County Board of Elections.

Since Monday, FBI personnel working together with the Pennsylvania State Police have conducted numerous interviews and recovered and reviewed certain physical evidence. Election officials in Luzerne County have been cooperative. At this point we can confirm that a small number of military ballots were discarded. Investigators have recovered nine ballots at this time. Some of those ballots can be attributed to specific voters and some cannot. All nine ballots were cast for presidential candidate Donald Trump.

Our inquiry remains ongoing and we expect later today to share our up to date findings with officials in Luzerne County. It is the vital duty of government to ensure that every properly cast vote is counted.

ETA it's only 9 ballots, but if they can get away with 9.. How many more can they get away with?

I have no doubt at this point that the US Attorney statement is accurate. But before we jump to conclusions, we need all the facts.

1. Were the ballots found opened?
2. If not, who opened them and did that violate PA law?
3. Were they discarded intentionally or was this just an honest mistake of someone misplacing them.

Hey water carrier...I’m still offering to pay for that stamp and envelope with no return address for you to mail yourself the cash from your checking and savings account to prove to the world just how safe and reliable voting by mail is.

I live in Luzerne County, PA. One of the most corrupt places in the state. Run by Dems of coarse. They are pissed that Trump won the county in 2016 and they are going to do everything in their power to keep that from happening again. By the way, Trump signs are everywhere up here. this mail in voting scares the hell out of Trump people here. One thing to keep in mind is that " Scranton Joe" stuff won't fly down here because most people in this county hate Scranton.

(09-24-2020 03:50 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 02:27 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 02:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 02:04 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm assuming these are absentee ballots..

Tom is going to believe the press over the Dept. of Justice.

All I need to know.

Tom doesn't care if someone cheats, as long as they cheat and help the Democrats.

Thanks for showing us who we all knew you were.


Statement Of U.S. Attorney Freed On Inquiry Into Reports Of Potential Issues With Mail-In Ballots
HARRISBURG - On Monday, September 21, 2020, at the request of Luzerne County District Attorney Stefanie Salavantis, the Office of the United States Attorney along with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Scranton Resident Office, began an inquiry into reports of potential issues with a small number of mail-in ballots at the Luzerne County Board of Elections.

Since Monday, FBI personnel working together with the Pennsylvania State Police have conducted numerous interviews and recovered and reviewed certain physical evidence. Election officials in Luzerne County have been cooperative. At this point we can confirm that a small number of military ballots were discarded. Investigators have recovered nine ballots at this time. Some of those ballots can be attributed to specific voters and some cannot. All nine ballots were cast for presidential candidate Donald Trump.

Our inquiry remains ongoing and we expect later today to share our up to date findings with officials in Luzerne County. It is the vital duty of government to ensure that every properly cast vote is counted.

ETA it's only 9 ballots, but if they can get away with 9.. How many more can they get away with?

I have no doubt at this point that the US Attorney statement is accurate. But before we jump to conclusions, we need all the facts.

1. Were the ballots found opened?
2. If not, who opened them and did that violate PA law?
3. Were they discarded intentionally or was this just an honest mistake of someone misplacing them.

Your first two questions were valid questions to ask. Weird though right, since we're being force fed to believe voting by mail is a safe, secure way to get your vote counted.

Are military absentee or cheat by mail votes/envelopes labelled or marked any differently than regular ones?

I'd imagine one give away would be a return address if that exists, or perhaps the cancel mark from overseas. Be pretty easy to screen for those if so.

They're usually put into a postage paid and marked envelope. There shouldn't be a return address directly from the voter. However, as they're stamped from routing, it wouldn't be hard to figure it out. Especially someone that works with absentee ballots. I'm sure they have less detectable means of identifying an absentee ballot. It is extremely curious how ALL the votes discarded were for a single candidate though. Seems one would have HAD to open them to figure that out prior to discarding. Lots of very concerning information with this case.

Prelude to Civil War II

(09-24-2020 11:20 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Prelude to Civil War II

My fear is not that we are left with no local law, but rather that an illegitimate government empowers the enemies of freedom.

Have you stopped to ask why they are against the police? They don't want local law enforcement, they want a national police force, a Gestapo or Stassi

Only this new police state will already have all of your phone calls recorded, your facial recognition from skype, your voice recognition from Alexa, and your DNA from COVID 19 testing. They will watch you through your smart TV, record what is said in your room through your computers, kindles, and phones, and will know wherever you go by the same. That's the power that the High Tech overlords are looking for. BLM is just a tool and Washington (unless under their control) is an obstacle, and military is becoming increasingly dependent upon the Tech merchants.

That my friend is the new reality and that ballot box is our last chance to remain free, and those scum sucking narcissistic bastards know it.

And for the record, this is why they also need riots. Riots are a justification for Homeland Security to be used to reestablish order. There is the birth of a national police force.

(09-24-2020 03:36 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 03:22 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 03:18 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Unfottunately, this type of thing is to be expected. These will not be the only ballots "discarded".

If you read the release I quoted.. It sounds like there were more, these were the ones recovered..

I have no doubt. Howver, when I click on the DOJ link all I get is a "Page not found" error.

Because their initial statement was incorrect, so they pulled it.

This whole thing is fishy. The WH teased this initial announcement before the DOJ issued their first incorrect statement, touting like this was clear evidence of bias against trump. And why are they even releasing a statement when they were still investigating?

DOJ announcement on Pennsylvania ballot investigation baffles election experts

Revised DOJ statement.
Revised Statement Of U.S. Attorney Freed On Inquiry Into Reports Of Potential Issues With Mail-In Ballots

Turns out it was an issue ever since the primary that PA needs to work out where their ballot return envelopes are similar looking, so staff opened these to make sure they weren't missing an application for a ballot, because as I said, actual absentee ballots are not allowed to be opened under PA law until 7 a.m. on election day. And even in the revised statement, it doesn't really say whether the votes were actually counted or not.

As I said, best to wait for all the facts...and there seems like more are to come still.

Additionally, according to the PA attorney general, these ballots were from the primary, not the general election!

And here's the DOJ letter to the PA County explaining everything. Again, this appears to be issues they had during their primary, not the GE.

Letter to Luzerne County Bureau of Elections

Quote:It was explained to investigators the envelopes used for official overseas, military, absentee and mail-in ballot requests are so similar, that the staff believed that adhering to the protocol of preserving envelopes unopened would cause them to miss such ballot requests. Our interviews further revealed that this issue was a problem in the primary election--therefore a known issue--and that the problem has not been corrected.

The problem has not been corrected? Its almost October shouldnt that raise a red flag?

(09-25-2020 07:22 AM)solohawks Wrote:  The problem has not been corrected? Its almost October shouldnt that raise a red flag?

It did. And they have well over a month to fix it.

But they can't change the envelopes they already sent out.

Ever notice that these issues seem to always affect a Republican?

The fabled 4 post in a row by Tom. Almost makes me want to take him off of ignore. Almost.