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RE: ****W4: Tulane @ USM, 1:30CT, FSSE & Stadium****
Interesting tidbit about Tulane is that the scores of each of their first two games were 27-24 (one win and one loss), and this one was 66-24. So in every game they've played so far this season, the losing team scored 24.
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RE: ****W4: Tulane @ USM, 1:30CT, FSSE & Stadium****
(09-27-2020 11:47 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  Interesting tidbit about Tulane is that the scores of each of their first two games were 27-24 (one win and one loss), and this one was 66-24. So in every game they've played so far this season, the losing team scored 24.

Kicking that FG was the kiss of death.
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RE: ****W4: Tulane @ USM, 1:30CT, FSSE & Stadium****
Those TD runs were... ...untouched.

The next USM coach needs to be a guy that wants to rebuild both lines and LB core. Nobody will bother to throw if they can gut you for 9+ per carry.
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****W4: Tulane @ USM, 1:30CT, FSSE & Stadium****
USM lost their best defensive player (returning starter LB Latham) in the 1st quarter due to a targeting penalty. Before that they held Tulame to 55yds and 0 points (14-0 USM)... after that, well (10-66) rest of the way.

They were also without their top WR Tim Jones, who torched Louisiana Tech the previous week

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RE: ****W4: Tulane @ USM, 1:30CT, FSSE & Stadium****
(09-27-2020 03:03 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  USM lost their best defensive player (returning starter LB Latham) in the 1st quarter due to a targeting penalty. Before that they held Tulame to 55yds and 0 points (14-0 USM)... after that, well (10-66) rest of the way.

They were also without their top WR Tim Jones, who torched Louisiana Tech the previous week

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If one player going out on a targeting call causes your defense to concede 59 freaking points (it was 14-7 when he was ejected), then you have far deeper defensive issues than just one guy.
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RE: ****W4: Tulane @ USM, 1:30CT, FSSE & Stadium****
(09-27-2020 03:43 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(09-27-2020 03:03 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  USM lost their best defensive player (returning starter LB Latham) in the 1st quarter due to a targeting penalty. Before that they held Tulame to 55yds and 0 points (14-0 USM)... after that, well (10-66) rest of the way.

They were also without their top WR Tim Jones, who torched Louisiana Tech the previous week

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If one player going out on a targeting call causes your defense to concede 59 freaking points (it was 14-7 when he was ejected), then you have far deeper defensive issues than just one guy.
You're right, but the article I read was wrong, while Tulame had 7 points from a USM fumble in the redzone, they only had (6+9+8-15) 8 total yards before USM's LB was disqualified (the targeting would have ended the 4th drive, but the penalty extended it, with that ended up being a TD). Who knows how much that leadership void hurt a team who had already lost so much (several good starters opting out, coach quitting, best remaining WR injured, etc.)

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RE: ****W4-FINAL: Tulane 66 @ USM 24****
What you're seeing folks is the culmination of 4+ years of Jay Hopson's SWAC-hired position staff who, in turn, recruited SWAC-quality recruits, and have been given SWAC-quality practice and in-game coaching. It's so sad.

But have no fear...AD Jeremy McClain will right the ship in December. We'll actually pay for a quality coach instead of a 500k-per-year-bargains-for-blessings-Hopson kind of coach.
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(09-28-2020 08:23 AM)TTT Wrote:  What you're seeing folks is the culmination of 4+ years of Jay Hopson's SWAC-hired position staff who, in turn, recruited SWAC-quality recruits, and have been given SWAC-quality practice and in-game coaching. It's so sad.

But have no fear...AD Jeremy McClain will right the ship in December. We'll actually pay for a quality coach instead of a 500k-per-year-bargains-for-blessings-Hopson kind of coach.

How are you certain of this? I hope you are right.
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(09-28-2020 08:23 AM)TTT Wrote:  What you're seeing folks is the culmination of 4+ years of Jay Hopson's SWAC-hired position staff who, in turn, recruited SWAC-quality recruits, and have been given SWAC-quality practice and in-game coaching. It's so sad.

But have no fear...AD Jeremy McClain will right the ship in December. We'll actually pay for a quality coach instead of a 500k-per-year-bargains-for-blessings-Hopson kind of coach.

Better hope so...

might be the last chance before real apathy sets in. There's one almost sure thing that USM could hire and bring excitement back to the program. But its not going to happen...the USM president already passed on him. When you are at the bottom of the food chain, you have to take those chances.

Money is not always the answer ...Ellis Johnson was being paid good money for that period of time.
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RE: ****W4-FINAL: Tulane 66 @ USM 24****
(09-27-2020 03:43 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(09-27-2020 03:03 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  USM lost their best defensive player (returning starter LB Latham) in the 1st quarter due to a targeting penalty. Before that they held Tulame to 55yds and 0 points (14-0 USM)... after that, well (10-66) rest of the way.

They were also without their top WR Tim Jones, who torched Louisiana Tech the previous week

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If one player going out on a targeting call causes your defense to concede 59 freaking points (it was 14-7 when he was ejected), then you have far deeper defensive issues than just one guy.

Our best LB opted out before the season. He was an all-conference player. Then another LB in our 2 deep was injured and out for the year. We had one LB playing with 2 broken hands Saturday. And then Latham (our best and most athletic LB) was ejected for targeting. Similar situation on the DL. It is what it is. There has been a max exodus. With players opting out and entering the transfer portal, I'm told that the number of scholarship players is in the mid 60s.
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(09-26-2020 04:31 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  Coaching is killing this team this season.

Coaching is playing a part, but the lack of talent in numerous positions is baffling. There has been a very poor job of roster management and player development for a few years and the results are now very evident.
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As I stated in a post last week in a chat on here, the idea of Southern Miss looking down at Tulane now is laughable. I wish to see USM return to its former luster as well, but Tulane has been recruiting far better talent since Fritz has arrived. For that matter, USM is looking way up at Memphis these days, another school they used to dominate. Times are changing and to throw out unrealistic comments about how this should be "easy win" last week, was just not what reality indicates. A long hill to climb for the Golden Eagles, but I think the right hire could go a long way in determining if that is likely or not. IMO, Freeze needs to be there in 2021. Hell, I'd hire him now if they could. But indeed, I did not think I'd see a day where Tulane was able to hand 66 on them, let alone at M.M. Roberts
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(09-28-2020 05:44 PM)PAAcocahesAssociation Wrote:  A long hill to climb for the Golden Eagles, but I think the right hire could go a long way in determining if that is likely or not. IMO, Freeze needs to be there in 2021. Hell, I'd hire him now if they could.
That would be a great move for Southern Miss. Would it be a great move for Hugh Freeze? Interwebs say he gets $2 mill. at Liberty, plus bonuses. Can USM top that?
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(09-28-2020 05:44 PM)PAAcocahesAssociation Wrote:  the idea of Southern Miss looking down at Tulane now is laughable... Tulane has been recruiting far better talent since Fritz has arrived. For that matter, USM is looking way up at Memphis these days, another school they used to dominate.
C-USA’s best 2-3 teams are better than the Aack’s worst 2-3 teams. Other than that, the Aack! is light-years ahead of CUSA in every way.

We are way ahead of the MAC, so there’s that. Slightly behind The Mtn., but basically even if you leave Boise out of the equation. The Sun Belt is our true peer.
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(09-28-2020 02:46 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-28-2020 08:23 AM)TTT Wrote:  What you're seeing folks is the culmination of 4+ years of Jay Hopson's SWAC-hired position staff who, in turn, recruited SWAC-quality recruits, and have been given SWAC-quality practice and in-game coaching. It's so sad.

But have no fear...AD Jeremy McClain will right the ship in December. We'll actually pay for a quality coach instead of a 500k-per-year-bargains-for-blessings-Hopson kind of coach.

Better hope so...

might be the last chance before real apathy sets in. There's one almost sure thing that USM could hire and bring excitement back to the program. But its not going to happen...the USM president already passed on him. When you are at the bottom of the food chain, you have to take those chances.

Money is not always the answer ...Ellis Johnson was being paid good money for that period of time.

Spot on.
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I haven’t wanted to show my face on here after losing to a team that once punted on third down because we were beating them so bad. Our new head coach better be spot on this time or it might be curtains for the program. Maybe we ought to shut down the program down like UAB did so the NCAA might let us recruit like they did to get back on track.
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