(10-04-2020 12:07 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(10-04-2020 11:42 AM)Lurkercat Wrote:  Memphis just lost a conference game too, so today I disagree. We can talk about how dangerous ucf is and how the can keep up with anyone, but you need to win and they didn't. So for right now, this year, smu is top dog

I don't have a problem saying "right now" SMU/UC are #1-2/2-1, but if we're going to dig into last years metrics, I can easily dismiss your one conference win against USF. They were not good last year.

Every team in the conference has some holes IMO.

Memphis (Secondary is god-awful)
UCF (Defense is above average at best)(Too much Bombs-away on offense)
UC (I'm not a Ridder fan-game manager)
SMU (major injuries to key players)(anemic running attack)

Our running attack is fine, especially for an Air Raid offense. Hell, we had the #1 rusher in CFB up until yesterday, regardless of competition.

It's point #1 a about the injuries that is really the issue.

(10-04-2020 12:07 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(10-04-2020 11:42 AM)Lurkercat Wrote:  Memphis just lost a conference game too, so today I disagree. We can talk about how dangerous ucf is and how the can keep up with anyone, but you need to win and they didn't. So for right now, this year, smu is top dog

I don't have a problem saying "right now" SMU/UC are #1-2/2-1, but if we're going to dig into last years metrics, I can easily dismiss your one conference win against USF. They were not good last year.

Every team in the conference has some holes IMO.

Memphis (Secondary is god-awful)
UCF (Defense is above average at best)(Too much Bombs-away on offense)
UC (I'm not a Ridder fan-game manager)
SMU (major injuries to key players)(anemic running attack)

Our running attack is fine, especially for an Air Raid offense. Hell, we had the #1 rusher in CFB up until yesterday, regardless of competition.

It's point #1 about the injuries that is really the issue.

(10-04-2020 12:18 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(10-04-2020 12:07 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(10-04-2020 11:42 AM)Lurkercat Wrote:  Memphis just lost a conference game too, so today I disagree. We can talk about how dangerous ucf is and how the can keep up with anyone, but you need to win and they didn't. So for right now, this year, smu is top dog

I don't have a problem saying "right now" SMU/UC are #1-2/2-1, but if we're going to dig into last years metrics, I can easily dismiss your one conference win against USF. They were not good last year.

Every team in the conference has some holes IMO.

Memphis (Secondary is god-awful)
UCF (Defense is above average at best)(Too much Bombs-away on offense)
UC (I'm not a Ridder fan-game manager)
SMU (major injuries to key players)(anemic running attack)

Our running attack is fine, especially for an Air Raid offense. Hell, we had the #1 rusher in CFB up until yesterday, regardless of competition.

It's point #1 a about the injuries that is really the issue.

Covid-19 is our #1 injury. Our RB Kenneth Gainwell is not a RB you want to face. Tragically, he's lost 4 family members to the Coronavirus, so he's bowed out for the entire season.

(10-01-2020 10:38 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  

(10-01-2020 12:05 PM)panite Wrote:  

(10-01-2020 11:54 AM)PirateJim Wrote:  

(10-01-2020 09:57 AM)panite Wrote:  This week:

1. SMU - 3-0
2. UCF - 2-0
3. Cinn - 2-0
4. Navy - 1-1 (Beat Tulane)
5. Tulane - 2-1
6. Memphis - 1-0
7. ECU 0-1

No Ranking - Haven't played - Temple and Houston.

No USF or Tulsa?

I'm bad missed them on my sheet. Need to use my new glasses more.

1. SMU - 3-0
2. UCF - 2-0
3. Cinn - 2-0
4. Navy - 1-1 (Beat Tulane)
5. Tulane - 2-1
6. Memphis - 1-0
7. Tulsa - 0-1 (Tuff loss to OK. St.)
8. USF - 1-1
9. ECU 0-1

No Ranking - Haven't played - Temple and Houston.

What devious formula did you use to put SMU ahead of UCF? UCF has a P6 win whereas SMU played 3 bad teams. Memphis is ahead of SMU until proven otherwise. I have no issue with you ranking SMU ahead of Cincinnati or anyone else though. I have SMU in 4th right now behind UCF, Memphis, and Cincinnati.

Guess my "DEVIOUS FORMULA" works. SMU beats Memphis and Tulsa beats UCF.

Every team has injuries. Tulsa lost their starting tailback and middle linebacker for the season to ACL tears during practice the week before the OSU game.

Contenders
1. Cincinnati
2. Memphis
3. SMU
4. Tulsa
5. UCF

Who knows
6. Houston
7. Temple

Competitive
8. Navy
9. Tulane

Gross
10. USF
11. ECU

(10-04-2020 01:03 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(10-04-2020 12:18 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(10-04-2020 12:07 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  I don't have a problem saying "right now" SMU/UC are #1-2/2-1, but if we're going to dig into last years metrics, I can easily dismiss your one conference win against USF. They were not good last year.

Every team in the conference has some holes IMO.

Memphis (Secondary is god-awful)
UCF (Defense is above average at best)(Too much Bombs-away on offense)
UC (I'm not a Ridder fan-game manager)
SMU (major injuries to key players)(anemic running attack)

Our running attack is fine, especially for an Air Raid offense. Hell, we had the #1 rusher in CFB up until yesterday, regardless of competition.

It's point #1 about the injuries that is really the issue.

Covid-19 is our #1 injury. Our RB Kenneth Gainwell is not a RB you want to face. Tragically, he's lost 4 family members to the Coronavirus, so he's bowed out for the entire season.

No doubt. As I pointed out on another thread you were without your best player for the game, and I am fully aware of his well-deserved preseason All-American status. Also aware of the impact Covid has had on his family, so no judgement here.

But the point made was about our weaknesses, not the Tigers, and we have a capable rushing attack, especially without the injuries.

1a. Cincy
1b. SMU (gets Cincy at home so that will decide who's better)
3. Tulsa
4. UCF
5. Memphis
6. Navy
7. Tulane
8a. Houston
8b. Temple
10. USF
11. ECU - what happened?

1: tulsa
2: smu






11 UC
12 Memphis

(10-04-2020 03:28 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  1: tulsa
2: smu






11 UC
12 Memphis

More of THIS. Pump it into my veins!

(10-04-2020 03:28 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  1: tulsa
2: smu






11 UC
12 Memphis

Funny thing is

there's a logical argument for this....

(10-04-2020 03:01 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(10-04-2020 01:03 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(10-04-2020 12:18 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(10-04-2020 12:07 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  I don't have a problem saying "right now" SMU/UC are #1-2/2-1, but if we're going to dig into last years metrics, I can easily dismiss your one conference win against USF. They were not good last year.

Every team in the conference has some holes IMO.

Memphis (Secondary is god-awful)
UCF (Defense is above average at best)(Too much Bombs-away on offense)
UC (I'm not a Ridder fan-game manager)
SMU (major injuries to key players)(anemic running attack)

Our running attack is fine, especially for an Air Raid offense. Hell, we had the #1 rusher in CFB up until yesterday, regardless of competition.

It's point #1 about the injuries that is really the issue.

Covid-19 is our #1 injury. Our RB Kenneth Gainwell is not a RB you want to face. Tragically, he's lost 4 family members to the Coronavirus, so he's bowed out for the entire season.

No doubt. As I pointed out on another thread you were without your best player for the game, and I am fully aware of his well-deserved preseason All-American status. Also aware of the impact Covid has had on his family, so no judgement here.

But the point made was about our weaknesses, not the Tigers, and we have a capable rushing attack, especially without the injuries.

That freshman Bentley (I believe that’s his name) is going to be a stud. You can see it and I know he was killing it before our game.


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(10-04-2020 03:28 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  1: tulsa
2: smu






11 UC
12 Memphis

Awesome......we can be the blue UConn!


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(10-04-2020 02:44 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Contenders
1. Cincinnati
2. Memphis
3. SMU
4. Tulsa
5. UCF

Who knows
6. Houston
7. Temple

Competitive
8. Navy
9. Tulane

Gross
10. USF
11. ECU

Explain to me how UCF falls all the way to 5 with Tulsa surpassing them, yet SMU which beat Memphis is still behind in your rankings. Just looking for consistency because if you are going off in-season results, SMU should be no lower than second. If you are going off body of work for the last year there is no way UCF falls down to fifth.

From what I have seen - there is not much difference in the top 5 teams.

1. UC (tie)
1. SMU (tie)
2. Tulsa (based on win at UCF and playing Ok. St. well)
3. UCF (tie)
3. Memphis (tie)
4. Navy
5. Tulane
6. USF
7. ECU

I'm unable to rank Houston or Temple until they play.

1. Cincinnati
2. SMU
3. Tulsa
4. Memphis
5. UCF
6. Houston
7. Temple
8. Navy
9. Tulane
10. USF
11. ECU

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Great week for (#18) SMU and (#32) Tulsa (46 votes)!

Terrible week for the AAC as a whole!

UCF (blown away by Tulsa; dropped from #11 to #29)

Memphis (out-run by SMU; dropped from #25 to #40)

Navy (bombed & strafed by Air Force; now 1-2, possibly scuttled)

NOTE: Navy has won their one battle at sea, but has lost their air and land battles.

.

There are now two AAC teams in the top 25, including #11 Cincinnati, and three in the top 30, including #29 UCF

In consolation, #40 Memphis only lost by 3 on the road vs. a top 25 team.

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Good week for the other non-P5 conferences and independents:


#15 BYU (Independent)

#23 Louisiana (Sun Belt)

#31 Marshall (C-USA; 49 votes)

#35 Coastal Carolina (Sun Belt; 25 votes)

#39 UAB (C-USA; 15 votes)

#40 Army (Independent; 14 votes)

#47 Air Force (MWC; 4 votes)

1) SMU
2) Cincy
3) Memphis
4) Tulsa
5) UCF
6) Tulane
7) Houston
8) Navy
9) Temple
10) USF
11) ECU

(10-04-2020 05:45 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  

(10-04-2020 02:44 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Contenders
1. Cincinnati
2. Memphis
3. SMU
4. Tulsa
5. UCF

Who knows
6. Houston
7. Temple

Competitive
8. Navy
9. Tulane

Gross
10. USF
11. ECU

Explain to me how UCF falls all the way to 5 with Tulsa surpassing them, yet SMU which beat Memphis is still behind in your rankings. Just looking for consistency because if you are going off in-season results, SMU should be no lower than second. If you are going off body of work for the last year there is no way UCF falls down to fifth.

1. Because I thought it would be fun.

2. Memphis was coming off a big delay from COVID and lost by 3, on the road. I think Memphis is better than SMU and I think home/road matters.

3. I actually kind of think UCF is better than Tulsa...BUT Tulsa won on UCF's home field so I can't justify keeping UCF above Tulsa (and Tulsa has a really good defensive performance against OSU to their credit as well).

4. You'll notice I have those 5 as contenders. It's because I could see any of them winning the league (maybe not Tulsa, but they've earned their spot there for now and I could be being irrational about them). I'm sure my mind will change multiple times the rest of the way.

5. Because I still think it was fun.

After Week 5, these guys are:

Looking Good - SMU (Offense clicking), Cincinnati (Defense clicking)
Dangerously Gifted - Memphis, UCF, Tulsa
Unknown - Houston, Temple
Strange, up and down - Tulane, Navy
Having a tough year - USF, ECU